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kingoddball 2010-06-12 22:38

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Can we not disable all watchdogs via flasher?
If we disable all, we shouldnt need RD mode?

dj_steve 2010-06-12 22:40

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they only get disabled durin rnd mode

kingoddball 2010-06-12 23:03

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Steve,
In the instructions you say we need to find and replace: echo 0cddef0a0e6d and replace the 0cddef0a0e6d with the text you wrote down in step 2 But that line can not be found in the load_modules.sh in your 2.1 rootfs (0.0.3/0.0.3.1). Is this in another location?

dj_steve 2010-06-12 23:13

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yea bluetooth doesn work in dualboot yet

HtheB 2010-06-13 01:33

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1 Attachment(s)
am I the only one that could not extract the files?

it gives me always an error (see attachment).
Are the packages corrupted somehow?
I did download them 100% successfull.
It's happening the same with the neweir package too (0.0.3-1)

Does anyone else has the same problem?
Tried to extract on Windows with winrar, gives problems too... :(

S0urcerr0r 2010-06-13 01:33

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thanks for all your hard work dj_steve!!!

dj_steve 2010-06-13 01:42

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i suggest tryin again hittheb

S0urcerr0r 2010-06-13 01:54

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would it be possible to implement multi-touch emulation (proximity sensor - approach) like described in this post:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=61

would there be too much work with porting and reverse-engineering the touchscreen- / proximitysensor- driver?

HtheB 2010-06-13 02:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 712700)
i suggest tryin again HtheB

I tried a dozens of times now :(

Seems like others like MohammedAG has the same prob.

kingoddball 2010-06-13 03:53

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HtheB:
I had the same problem.
Depending where your rootfs(android) image is.

Do exactly this:
Code:

mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt

cd /mnt

tar xjvvpf ../home/USERNAME/Desktop/NITDroid-N900-0.0.1-Demo.tbz2

umount /mnt

You need to extract the rootfs image/tbz2 to the sdb/sbd partition 2.

enter

Wait - done.

I have done it 3 times in 2 day. I received the same error you got many times when I wasn't extracting TO THE SD CARD.

lifenexus 2010-06-13 04:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 712606)
yea bluetooth doesn work in dualboot yet

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=10

check this. something abt rnd mode

kingoddball 2010-06-13 05:33

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DJ Steve: Are the builds you're releasing 'Rooted'?
I don't have any need for it at this point, just asking.

el95090 2010-06-13 06:32

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Hello!!
I have done all the required steps and I select Androind from bootmenu then it tries to boot but the only thing i can see in the screen is the word "Android" for a long time and nothing else happened.
Any ideas???

fwrnando 2010-06-13 07:34

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EDIT: whoops, nothing to see here, I was posting about the keyboard lights side effect of using R&D mode. My bad!

gsever 2010-06-13 08:03

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This topic does more buzz and useful buzz for what they are doing for MeeGo. Those guys at top should make a rapid change in their investments to Android since there is a working and fast living prototype here. :)

By the way, is it easy to switch back to single boot again after turning the dual boot mode on? Can the boot loader boots into Maemo 5 as default or like in 3-5 seconds if things go wrong?

Thanks for the great work again. I am not sure how to describe this device any longer. Is it a Maemo or Debian, or MeeGo or Android device :D

kingoddball 2010-06-13 08:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by el95090 (Post 712819)
Hello!!
I have done all the required steps and I select Androind from bootmenu then it tries to boot but the only thing i can see in the screen is the word "Android" for a long time and nothing else happened.
Any ideas???


I'm guessing you have failed somewhere.
Use the newest Rootfs (0.0.3.1 on Pg84) and use all instructions on pg 30 and make sure you extract directly to SD card.

dj_steve 2010-06-13 10:54

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gsever keep the keyboard vclosed and maemo will boot itself (the menus only shown when its open

kingoddball 2010-06-13 11:18

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OK - here is a tiny tutorial for those of you who want to stay in RD mode but stop the keyboard flashing!

Crack open xTerm:

Code:

root
cd ..

cd etc

nano pmconfig

Change "sleep_ind 1" to "sleep_ind 0".

You do not need to use nano, I just like it's simplicity.
sleep_ind 1 is generally the last line of pmconfig.

Then reboot.
The keyboard may flash on the sides during bootup, this is fine.

Twitchers!

Enjoy... Stay in RD mode and enjoy Android.
Thanks so much DJ_Steve and e-yes!

gsever 2010-06-13 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Poochino (Post 711691)

2) Format microSD card. Type the following into terminal.
Code:

fdisk /dev/sdb <press return>
o <press return>
n <press return>
p <press return>
1 <press return>
<press return>
+xM <press return> (x is the size of the partition in MB, a formality and not used by android so make it small asy 100)
t <press return>
c <press return>
n <press return>
p <press return>
2 <press return>
<press enter>
<press enter>
w <press return>

sudo mkdosfs /dev/sd*1
sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sd*2 -m0


Up above the two sudo commands I needed to unmount N900 from my Fedora 12. I inserted microSD in it and followed your steps. Otherwise I was seeing part sdc1 was already mounted error. Unplugging and plugging back the cable solve the issue.

By the way you start with fdisk /dev/sdb with microSD inserted on N900 I was almost using my N900 memory :) dmesg list sdc as being the microSD. Care must be taken during this operation :D

Quote:

Code:

flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,no-ext-wd -f -k *type loaction if zImage kernel downloaded here* -R <press return>

The following must signify a successful flash operation.

Code:

[root@ccn maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2]# ./flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,no-ext-wd -f -k ../zImage-0.0.3 -Rflasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)

Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
USB device found found at bus 002, device address 018.
Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2101
NOLO version 1.4.14
Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.19-1.002_PR_002
Sending kernel image (1826 kB)...
100% (1826 of 1826 kB, avg. 22000 kB/s)
Flashing kernel... done.
The device is now in R&D mode

Indeed I was able to boot in Android. For some reason I couldn't get WiFi working, plus the second boot was kind of unsuccessful. Neither the very recent third boot. They didn't bring any app to the desktop. And the OS doesn't respond any of the taps. Peff it was working at the first one.

dj_steve 2010-06-13 12:21

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this has been mentioned, predd ctrl/sym and icons will appear most liekly along with a error

gsever 2010-06-13 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 713059)
this has been mentioned, predd ctrl/sym and icons will appear most liekly along with a error

Yep, this did it. I am able to connect to a WiFi network as well.

maps.google.com isn't working at this stage. Google apps won't be ported due to license restrictions ehh?

What's next beyond this point? Could be there any other support in this translation besides what you are doing and other individual efforts?

dj_steve 2010-06-13 12:40

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goog apps are planned to be added but ive explained why they are not currently.

giannoug 2010-06-13 13:51

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Trying to get it work on my N900. Really slow boot, WiFi doesn't work. Hmm... Lets see.

Heman1310 2010-06-13 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by giannoug (Post 713156)
Trying to get it work on my N900. Really slow boot, WiFi doesn't work. Hmm... Lets see.

I got WiFi working after 2 reboots :)

Optln 2010-06-13 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 713081)
goog apps are planned to be added but ive explained why they are not currently.

But Google might not like it when you do. They sent an e-mail to CyanogenMod´s author for deleting Google apps from the release.

ToJa92 2010-06-13 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Optln (Post 713185)
But Google might not like it when you do. They sent an e-mail to CyanogenMod´s author for deleting Google apps from the release.

Might be because they have content in it that Google don't like(I have no idea). If dj_steve mangages to use a vanilla android with just the patches needed to maek it work I don't think it should be an issue. I have no idea if Google have any policies that are against that, if they do then obviously he can't redistribute the Google apps :D

dj_steve 2010-06-13 14:39

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google contacted cyanogen because he included a market app that was unreleased at the time no other reason

giannoug 2010-06-13 14:41

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How to disable RD mode? I tried --disable-rd-mode and I think it worked. The RD flags get resetted or I have to reset them by hand?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heman1310 (Post 713166)
I got WiFi working after 2 reboots :)

Yes, me too!

gsever 2010-06-13 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heman1310 (Post 713166)
I got WiFi working after 2 reboots :)

I have observed the same issue. In the first two boot wifi was not working (i.e. it was searching active wireless networks around). The third and following boots it has started working. I have tested AndAppStore and installed a few games and dictionaries. They indeed have so many quality dictionaries ported for Android. I wish N900 had some of those.

One else thing I have noted was live wallpapers. They don't seemingly work as of yet.

gsever 2010-06-13 15:07

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@dj_steve,

Do you have an issue tracker for this project?

These guys at http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/ have nicely manages the complexity of their porting project by taking advantage of Google Code Issue Tracker. It would be nice to be able to update you or other developers (if there is any) via such practical interface.

dj_steve 2010-06-13 15:09

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the sites on google sites so im going to guess their is an issue tracker (never used googlesites/code myself too much so not sure - i prefer using my own servers)

gsever 2010-06-13 15:50

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OK, any ideas about backspace key in NITroid. Regular N900 backspace on the keyboard sends the current application to the background or closes it. I don't know how multi-tasking is handled on anDroid? Any task manager?

One more is there any native file browser on NITroid?

Siggen 2010-06-13 17:21

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I have a question, I've tried to find the information on nitdroid.com and I've followed this thread.

How are updates handled with the nitdroid project? are there any servers to issue OTA updates? Do you have any plans to add the ability to do OTA updates?

Thanks

new_bee 2010-06-13 17:45

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i have tried to install a few applications, it can download but gives me msg that not enough space when i try to install applications. my partitin is almost 3gb. any ideas??

ToJa92 2010-06-13 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by new_bee (Post 713429)
i have tried to install a few applications, it can download but gives me msg that not enough space when i try to install applications. my partitin is almost 3gb. any ideas??

Might be a permission issue or something like that...

I got Android working, works pretty nice but a little laggy.. Wifi working too(I just tried out the IRC-client you added in the latest build, its nice). For now I just disabled R&D mode though, it doesn't seem very healthy for the N900 and until it's more stable I will probably not use it much. I'll look into the possibility to send some money your way :D

gsever 2010-06-13 20:59

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Anyone notices when they take pictures in Maemo after dual-boot arranging of NITroid, pictures are saved in that 100 MB msdos partition of microSD card as partitioned following the instructions at page 94. Do you know how can I save pictures back in the DCIM folder in N900 actual storage?

Descalzo 2010-06-13 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 713624)
Anyone notices when they take pictures in Maemo after dual-boot arranging of NITroid, pictures are saved in that 100 MB msdos partition of microSD card as partitioned following the instructions at page 94. Do you know how can I save pictures back in the DCIM folder in N900 actual storage?

Try pressing the little icon in the bottom-left corner of your screen. right next to the number that shows how many photos you can fit. When I press that it gives me a choice of card or internal storage.

dj_steve 2010-06-13 21:05

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maemo defaults to a newly inserted mem card for some reason

Mateus 2010-06-13 21:12

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Anyone got problems with installing and using Flasher3.5? I can not flash my phone... Windows can not find phone, Kubuntu can not install package

new_bee 2010-06-13 21:20

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gsever,
how did u manage to install the applications? did u take any extra steps or just installed them as it is?


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