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Sopwith 2010-04-17 01:36

Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Engadget leaks some very limited info on upcoming devices from Dell, with vague hints for launch late 2010 and early 2011.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/d...ablets-leaked/

The gadgets look good, but why the long wait?

geneven 2010-04-17 02:03

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I think 7 inches is where the action is, and I expect Nokia and Apple to be there as well as Dell. (and Kindle!)

johnkzin 2010-04-17 05:10

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I have a 7". Too small. 10" is definitely the sweet spot.

Rebski 2010-04-17 09:59

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I have a 7” SmartQ and find it ideal for one handed use. For example eBook reading at night in bed, lying on my side and holding the device by one edge.

Any bigger screen – and therefore heavier device – would be uncomfortable and probably be too difficult to hold and so would slip out of my hand.

I could be wrong of course and have yet to hold a 10” device in one hand to see.

tso 2010-04-17 10:46

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
to bad i suspect dell will be gunning for a telco deal, resulting in the non-contract devices being overly expensive to make the contracts look good.

would be interested in trying a 10" for pdfs and such, to much scrolling on a small screen. But for carrying around all day, 5" is max i would bother with.

Rebski 2010-04-17 23:11

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I use Calibre to convert text intensive pdfs to epub.
http://calibre-ebook.com/

They can then be easily read on my 7" screen.

johnkzin 2010-04-17 23:54

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
If I were looking for a pocketable, 5" would be my max, yes.

But what I'm looking for is a netbook replacement ... and 5" and 7" tablets are just too small for that. 9" or 10" is just about perfect.

tso 2010-04-18 00:20

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 615356)
I use Calibre to convert text intensive pdfs to epub.
http://calibre-ebook.com/

They can then be easily read on my 7" screen.

to bad most of the stuff i am interested in is image intensive.

bxbomber 2010-04-18 01:14

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
7 inch would be ideal imo, just hope it's not priced to to high. if not what'll be the point of buying one.

Sopwith 2010-04-18 01:33

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Well a good thing is that they're gonna have both 7'' and 10''. I am also interested in real pdfs (no conversion), however I don't even read them in my computer for extended time, e-Ink or pixelQi is a must for this. Otherwise I'll lose my eyesight way too soon and not be able to enjoy all the cool gadgets coming our way...
Hey, nice thread tag... :D

RWFarley 2010-04-18 01:36

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
We need a flexible display technology. 3" in your pocket, 10" unfolded. :-)

"I'd buy THAT for a buck"

Sopwith 2010-04-18 01:38

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
We need modular devices.

Rushmore 2010-04-18 01:48

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I would like one with Win 7 starter, then there is access to a ton of apps and emulators already available. Assuming they allow usb controllers and file transfers without the lamea55 Zune interface. I will not buy an Apple product or Zune due to the need to use proprietary interfaces.

tso 2010-04-18 12:54

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 615451)
We need modular devices.

redfly? Been kinda quiet on that front...

Sopwith 2010-04-18 13:17

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 616037)
redfly? Been kinda quiet on that front...

It has... Fast, energy efficient connectors pose a challenge. It is easier to have processor, memory, GPU on the same chip. But some smart way to achieve modularity should be easier than "elastic" screens. AI's touchbook is an attempt in the right direction, unfortunately horribly mis-marketed.

ysss 2010-04-18 13:24

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Above 4-4.5", it won't be pocketable anymore... so you gotta rethink your usecases. Unless you travel with a manpurse that can only fit 7" tablet, then might as well go for a 'proper' sized 10" one.

Sopwith 2010-04-18 13:46

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 616069)
... might as well go for a 'proper' sized 10" one.

One could argue that if you go for a proper sized 10''(+) screen, then you could as well throw in a proper keyboard (like in a laptop)... or an even more proper 40'' screen (like a TV)...

All I am saying is that it remains to be proven that there is an actual use case for a 10'' tablet just as much as for a 7'' one.

ysss 2010-04-18 14:04

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@sopwith: I think it has to do with the source documents. A 10" pad can reproduce A4-sized documents in more natural fashion. Web pages were also designed with that size in mind.

Yes, a small screen with a high enough pixel density of course can reproduce all the details; but it will still be physically too small (much higher dpi than originally intended).

So in the end, I guess it depends on what contents you're planning to use the tablet with.

Sopwith 2010-04-18 14:24

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 616103)
@sopwith: I think it has to do with the source documents. A 10" pad can reproduce A4-sized documents in more natural fashion...

Sure... The only device I know of that is good for A4-sized documents is the Kindle DX. This is however a very limited usecase.

Web content should be fine on anything 5''+, if properly formatted, IMO.

ysss 2010-04-18 14:38

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 616120)
Sure... The only device I know of that is good for A4-sized documents is the Kindle DX. This is however a very limited usecase.

Like I said, it depends on your usecase...
I find myself reading a lot of magazines on a 9.7" tablet... and most PDF and docs are formatted for A4\letter pages.

Quote:

Web content should be fine on anything 5''+, if properly formatted, IMO.
Without resizing? Displayed with fonts that you don't need to squint to read?

They started out targetting 14"-15" screens with 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution afterall.

Sopwith 2010-04-18 14:49

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 616134)
Like I said, it depends on your usecase...
I find myself reading a lot of magazines on a 9.7" tablet... and most PDF and docs are formatted for A4\letter pages.

Yes, I end up printing those. Just my job, plus TMO, are enough to make my eyes bleed from staring into the lamp of a backlit screen. I recently bought my wife subscriptions to Time and National Geographic from Amazon for peanuts, real paper magazines...

Quote:

Without resizing? Displayed with fonts that you don't need to squint to read?

They started out targetting 14"-15" screens with 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution afterall.
A 7'' screen at 10'' distance looks the same as a 14'' screen at 20''. Resolution is not a problem (look at N900).

ysss 2010-04-18 15:00

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 616145)
Yes, I end up printing those. Just my job, plus TMO, are enough to make my eyes bleed from staring into the lamp of a backlit screen. I recently bought my wife subscriptions to Time and National Geographic from Amazon for peanuts, real paper magazines...

Sure, printouts have their own pros and cons...
Translating paper workflows into computer systems have been the holy grail of computers industry for sometime now. There are reasons for that too.

Quote:

A 7'' screen at 10'' distance looks the same as a 14'' screen at 20''. Resolution is not a problem (look at N900).
As mentioned in previous post, resolution is not the issue. It's more of an ergonomic issue...

You'd probably have a problem if your time\natgeo subscriptions come in 40% smaller format, even if they come with loupes or an instruction manual of new and convenient ways of holding the magazines closer to your eyes :)

oldpmaguy 2010-04-18 15:14

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 615451)
We need modular devices.

lol, I read that quick and thout you wrote "we need molecular devices"!

What I'm interested in is units that have a combined e-ink and LCD dsplay, switchable between the two. I love that idea and think it's the best solution for bona fide reading situations, regular notebook usage, and prolonged battery life. I'd get a 7 or a 10 inch of such a tablet.

RWFarley 2010-04-18 22:55

Re: Dell 7 and 10 inch tablets
 
I've said for some time, what we really need are glasses and gloves. If you virtualize I/O you can have a Theatrical experience on the trolley to work. {Please don't do this while driving :-) }

The only use of a "Box" would then be to "Plug in/connect" to other devices....


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