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cloudstrife1ph 2010-04-27 23:37

mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
which is better? mobilehotspot is free but there's a warning about custom kernel possible of messing up the device w/c scares me to install it or joiku w/c is a paid app...

killerjay 2010-04-28 04:02

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
well i have joikuspot and it has a bunch of errors and u get a slow speed of like 1-2mbps when u should probably have 5-7mbps and crashes after maybe 10 minutes

cpate99 2010-04-28 04:29

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
How do you get mobile hotspot

gjoe 2010-04-28 04:29

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
i'm using joikuspot and so far never had errors like what killerjay mentioned.. and satisfied with the software..

knightstalker 2010-04-28 04:34

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I have mobile hotspot:
It didn't "damage" my mobile and my mobile is going fine =)
BUT,the thing is that it just randomly fails and succeeds,I had no problem when it got activated though,however I just started it for 3 mins :P

zvogt 2010-04-28 04:51

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I am going to have to agree with killerjay. I tried joiku for a few hours, nothing but errors. I was very unhappy with it and uninstalled it. Although I haven't tried the other so I can't comment on its performance.

sgbirch 2010-04-28 04:57

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudstrife1ph (Post 630744)
which is better? mobilehotspot is free but there's a warning about custom kernel possible of messing up the device w/c scares me to install it or joiku w/c is a paid app...

I have Joiku and find it works 95% of the time. But that 5% failure means my family roll their eyes when I promise them an internet connection via my n900.

To be fair to Joiku the family views the N900 as a bit of a joke. I am considered the long suffering early adopter with my unreliable phone. My wife's Nexus One and daughter's Blackbury are viewed as the serious phones.

This reputation means that any interruption in service when using Joiku annoys the family instantly and they give up.

Would I buy Joiku again? Probably.

Would I recommend it to others? Not really.

Same answers I would give if you asked about the N900 itself.

ivsu 2010-04-28 06:19

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I never have problems with Joiku. I don't think that is a substitution of a real wifi router but, for an accasional use, it works fine.

Bijiont 2010-04-28 07:29

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgbirch (Post 630941)
I have Joiku and find it works 95% of the time. But that 5% failure means my family roll their eyes when I promise them an internet connection via my n900.

To be fair to Joiku the family views the N900 as a bit of a joke. I am considered the long suffering early adopter with my unreliable phone. My wife's Nexus One and daughter's Blackbury are viewed as the serious phones.

This reputation means that any interruption in service when using Joiku annoys the family instantly and they give up.

Would I buy Joiku again? Probably.

Would I recommend it to others? Not really.

Same answers I would give if you asked about the N900 itself.


Send your N900 to me then :) I would gladly reflash it and use it.

I have used both and honestly neither really impress me.

GEONXT 2010-04-28 08:02

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I installed mobilehotspot and left it on at work only to get a work mate thank me for allowing his iphone to surf my net all day. I had wep password but this did not work as I tested it again with a few other wifi devices and they could always connect to net and surf. I do have a moded Kernel and unsure if this was the reason as I have not seen any reports of this affecting the app...anyhow I just removed it and will wait for another option. It worked well apart from the security feature.

rambo 2010-04-28 10:47

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GEONXT (Post 631074)
I do have a moded Kernel and unsure if this was the reason as I have not seen any reports of this affecting the app...anyhow I just removed it and will wait for another option. It worked well apart from the security feature.

There was a stupid bug in the backend script that disabled WEP even if it was enabled in the frontend.

If you have a custom kernel anyway (overclock, or whatever other reason) then there is no reason not to try out mobilehotspot.

I just don't want the unwary to get bitten since the application manager will flash the custom kernel automagically if you didn't have it already and custom kernels are definitely not supported by Nokia (and if it's OC kernel they will probably void your warranty as well...)

More info on MobileHotspot: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48075

Yansito 2010-05-14 03:54

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I have mobilehotspot and it works good, but sometimes it does hangs up, but is better than nothing. I am on Tmobile and the connection is good at 54 mbps. The wep key don't work as stated by others, but the best thing about it is that it's free. nice app to have.

super-hero 2010-05-14 04:27

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
alright. good been wondering for a while if i should install it. since soon nokia will release PR1.2 and might not work.
but i got a question. i want to make a application and a widget but i have no good ideas. i want to make a useful app to help people out. i have the skills but no creativity anyone with suggestions?

slappy 2010-05-14 05:26

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I cant get PS3 find my phones net, not with Joikuspot or Hotspot,
do I have to put the settings manually? I've tried but still I cant get my Ps3 to the internet..

Sorry for the OffTopic.

Bigv69er 2010-07-09 22:53

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
i am having the same issue PS3 wont find it when i scan

HeavyComponent 2010-07-10 15:58

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I wanted to give this a try, but for some reason the Light version doesn't support N900. I don't see it in the list when to pick my device. Then again the Premium version does? :confused:

Bigv69er 2010-07-12 08:50

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
you have to pay to use it bro.. not worth it.. do the set up for Mobilehotspot.. FREEE.. its awesome and runs fast.. i luv it... it juss wont connect to my ps3 :(

Spotfist 2010-07-12 09:25

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
You don't have to pay to use Joikuspot, there is a way to download the free version using apt get in xterm, very easy to do just a power search on this forum will do ;) it does not allow encryption however.

I have found that joikuspot is full of errors, use it enough and you will find them, I often it's down to luck, it will eventually work but can sometimes require a reset. Once working the connection stays up, I managed to watch an episode of mock the week on my laptop using my N900 no problem, after watching that I left it and the connection dropped as I have autodisconnect installed. Getting joikuspot to work again was a nightmare!

taril 2010-07-12 09:25

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I tried mobilehotspot with power kernel, it worked, cool, but i had to recharge my device twice a day because of the power kernel, in general, without online hotspot
!
I returned to the default kernel because of the power-saving issue.
Am waiting for a free solution for the default kernel.

Marlon 2010-07-12 09:38

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Joiku - bought it for 7€ so why not ;o)

2disbetter 2010-07-12 10:31

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I was wondering about this, and what it boiled down to me, was the need for a custom kernel. Joiku did not require this. So I went with it. Thanks to Joiku allowing you to buy it outside of the Ovi store this was possible. My first purchased app for this phone. Really wish Ovi would fix their credit card issues.

2d

Bigv69er 2010-07-13 04:44

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spotfist (Post 748968)
You don't have to pay to use Joikuspot, there is a way to download the free version using apt get in xterm, very easy to do just a power search on this forum will do ;) it does not allow encryption however.

I have found that joikuspot is full of errors, use it enough and you will find them, I often it's down to luck, it will eventually work but can sometimes require a reset. Once working the connection stays up, I managed to watch an episode of mock the week on my laptop using my N900 no problem, after watching that I left it and the connection dropped as I have autodisconnect installed. Getting joikuspot to work again was a nightmare!

where were?? pm me the comand if u have it... i wanna try it to see if joikuspt works with the ps3...

and mobilehotspot doesnt get read by both my comps anymore.. comes out as undefined network in windows 7...help

erniadeldesktop 2010-07-13 05:37

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taril (Post 748969)
I tried mobilehotspot with power kernel, it worked, cool, but i had to recharge my device twice a day because of the power kernel, in general, without online hotspot

I think you're one of the few experiencing loss of battery life w/ power kernel. I've just double up installing it.
imho no reason to worry about power kernel, install titan's one, work like a charm and if you don't want to overclock nobody will ask you to do it. and then try mobilehotspot :)

AlMehdi 2010-07-13 06:18

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taril (Post 748969)
I tried mobilehotspot with power kernel, it worked, cool, but i had to recharge my device twice a day because of the power kernel, in general, without online hotspot
!
I returned to the default kernel because of the power-saving issue.
Am waiting for a free solution for the default kernel.

Read up little on the Power-kernel. It will acctually save battery for you if you do it right. For me normally the battery last between 30-48h. And could probably make it last longer..

Bigv69er 2010-07-13 23:42

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
i was having the same problem battery died way faster.. without even using mobilehotspot..

and for me joikuspot works best.. but i dont like that it is limited to 11mbps

Laughing Man 2010-07-13 23:44

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I think 11 mbps is the fastest the N900 can get with HSPA+..

mokkey 2010-07-14 00:11

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
joikuspot premium i have the file :D

mokkey 2010-07-14 00:12

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 750953)
I think 11 mbps is the fastest the N900 can get with HSPA+..

what is and how do you get hspa/?

Bigv69er 2010-07-14 07:30

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 750953)
I think 11 mbps is the fastest the N900 can get with HSPA+..

really?? grrr thats wack!! lol

i want it to go faster ..

and i still cant connect to my ps3 because it is adhoc and not regular wifi

anyone offer any help?

Bigv69er 2010-07-14 07:31

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 750970)
joikuspot premium i have the file :D

i have it tooo lol

the repo.. and install instructions :)

mokkey 2010-07-14 14:57

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigv69er (Post 751195)
i have it tooo lol

the repo.. and install instructions :)

i have the .install file :D

mokkey 2010-07-14 15:51

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
how do u get hspa cos 11mbs is fast and i need that kind of speed?

Bigv69er 2010-07-15 01:04

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 751665)
how do u get hspa cos 11mbs is fast and i need that kind of speed?

im not talkin about literrraly being 11mbps lol i wish. i can barely get 1mbps lol..
its juss when you click details about the internet connection.. it says its a 11mbps "router" ... the oldskool routers like my lynksis it says it is correct me if im wrong 54mbps ??? or is it 24?? lol some ish..

Laughing Man 2010-07-15 01:08

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mokkey (Post 750971)
what is and how do you get hspa/?

HSPA+ is basically the term for high speed 3G speeds. It's not waht you do to get it. It's the fiber connected to the back-end of the towers you connect to from your service provider. For example, TMobile has upgraded the towers in cities such as Philadelphia, Charlotte, etc.. but not Baltimore and Washington D.C. yet.

And 11 mbps is the fastest the N900 can download via these speeds because that's the fastest the cellular chip inside the N900 allows.

Edit: I think the WiFi chip might be different, not sure.

frostbyte 2010-07-15 01:42

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I had trouble with Mobile Hotspot, but mainly it was due to me not being able to figure out Gnome Network Manager/Wicd with Hotspot. Now, with Joiku, Network Manager works fine, even with WEP enabled, Wicd is still a mystery.

edit: btw, I haven't seen anything better than 1.5mbps dload on T-Mo (USA) network, whether '3G' or '3.5G'

percypogi 2010-07-15 01:55

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigv69er (Post 751195)
i have it tooo lol

the repo.. and install instructions :)

hi, can i have it too please? cheers mate

punto 2010-07-22 20:56

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgbirch (Post 630941)
I have Joiku and find it works 95% of the time. But that 5% failure means my family roll their eyes when I promise them an internet connection via my n900.

To be fair to Joiku the family views the N900 as a bit of a joke. I am considered the long suffering early adopter with my unreliable phone. My wife's Nexus One and daughter's Blackbury are viewed as the serious phones.

This reputation means that any interruption in service when using Joiku annoys the family instantly and they give up.

Would I buy Joiku again? Probably.

Would I recommend it to others? Not really.

Same answers I would give if you asked about the N900 itself.

Kind of hilarious as I would have typed almost the same thing. Only I don't have kids, and almost everyone around me is a worshipper at the cult of Apple.

I do have one major issue with it, in that I can't establish VPN links through it for some reason. When I tether the N900, no issues.

Bigv69er 2010-07-23 08:22

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I GOT MY PS3 TO WORK. OFF OF MY N900 WIFI.. its awesome i can play COD modern warfare 2 online :)

only prob is.. when i use joikuspot n this is always.. is it works for like 30min then i have to stop it and re establish wifi.. is this normal?? i loose connection with it every 30min.. gets too hot???

ANYWAYS.. to the good part everyone wants to know how..

1. install joikuspot or mobilehotspot.. get wifi going..
2. follow these instructions and u will be playin ps3 online with ure n900 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8VhJXtHDY


NOTE .. you do have to run the ethernet cable between ps3 and PC.. sux but this is the only way we can do this right now. seing as to all n900 wifi programs send wifi signal as AdHoc..

i have been using it for 1 week.. and it works awesome no lagg..ive been using joikuspot

ThomasAH 2010-07-23 09:01

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
Funny how experiences can vary :)

Joiku crashes for me constantly... A couple of minutes of internet sharing causes my N900 to reset. I used to use Joikuspot on my N82 and it worked great there, but for the N900 it just doesn't pull it off.

Then I tried Mobile Hotspot (v0.3.3) in combination with the titan kernel (v2.6.28.10) and it works great! No problems at all here, nice speeds and my laptop can connect to it with WEP protection (using Windows 7 Home 64-bit) no problem at all. In fact, I'm typing this message through that connection! :)

I ran a local speedtest because I was curious about the speeds, you'll find them below. Please note this test was done through my mobile provider internet connection (3,5g, Vodafone NL). I'll try Wifi as soon as I'm home.
- Download speed: 63,8KByte/s (510 kbps)
- Upload speed: 39,8KByte/s (318kbps)
(A lot less than you American T-mobile guys I see! ;))

kyros 2010-08-03 22:04

Re: mobilehotspot or joiku?
 
I had Joikuspot but unfortuately I could never connect via WEP secured wireless network to my pc clients.

Now I tried Mobile Hotspot and it works very well (I have the Powerkernel installed as well).

speedtest.net shows in my client laptop connected to the N900 over Mobile Hotspot:
Download 2,1 Mbps
Upload 1,13 Mbps
Ping 156 ms

speedtest.net shows on the N900's native browser:
Download 2,0 Mbps
Upload 1,06 Mbps
Ping 160 ms

So you see Mobile Hotspot hands the connection 1:1 over to the WEP secured wireless connected clients. This is good enough for me to choose Mobile Hotspot as a free opensource app for this function.

Only one thing I would add: It would be the best when Mobile Hotspot would show a list of connected clients each in a line with their UL and DL (Joikuspot has a similar feature).


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