Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

So that would mean that all smartphones before and after the n900 would have it? I think this person didn't mean to word it to sound the way it came out. It will get ported to Qt if it hasn't already, so we'll get it on the n900 whether we're running Maemo or Meego. If they did it any other way I'd be surprised.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Just a curiosity, are we sure that meego will have free navigation?

IIRC Nokia (and not with Intel) owns Navteq, is there some agreement about that I'm aware?

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I'm pretty sure Harmattan/MeeGo will have it. Nokia is not giving it's $8.1 billion that it payed for Navteq to MeeGo as whole.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Yes. I am 99,3% sure that MeeGo devices from Nokia have free navigation. MeeGo devices from other manufacturers probably can't offer free navigation because they have to buy data needed for navigation either from Nokia/Navteq or other map data generating companies (Tele Atlas/TomTom or Google).

Maemo PR1.2
 

Do you think the final version have more features than the leaked build?

Re: Maemo PR1.2
 

No, and you don`t have to open a new thread about it....there are plenty out there

Re: Maemo PR1.2
 

Jesus.. how many threads you guys need for this thing?

Re: Maemo PR1.2
 

Sometimes I wish a 'no thanks' button.

Re: Maemo PR1.2
 

Really didnt need another thread for this, waste of time and space

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

The thread "Maemo PR1.2" with five posts has been merged into this thread.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

comes with pr1,2 the repeat option in mediaplayer?dont like mediabox.......

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

dont think so....

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

At this point I am seriously starting to believe there may be some new easter egg they have put into PR1.2. Something no one is expecting.

It's most likely a longshot belief, but seriously, if you look at the time that has passed, it's long enough to seriously overhaul a lot of apps and even implement something really cool. We already got the tease about portrait mode being enabled by ctrl-shift-r..

Who knows, maybe there will be something totally unexpected in the final build.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I like the idea that there might be something really new and unexpected when PR1.2 gets here. They owe us, if you ask me.

I really don't understand why what I would call the rootfs fix needed to be tested so long -- does anyone? That would have helped a lot of people all by itself if released a month or so ago. Why not?

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I think it should be only bugfixing! Someone with many usefull posts told that the feature-list for the upcoming update was closed (in March i guess).

Btw, there are some bugs i really want to be fixed immediatelly!
I don't need no new features, but i want the issues why i purchased this device working! Issues like Instant Messenger Integration in Contacts and GPS only useable with always on (which i don't want to affort). The device is stottering often (why not reboot and reload battery not every day?) and the usage of rootfs is kind of weird anyway...

Common, such a shame for Nokia! Releasing a Linux-Phone and not using efforts of the Software-Lifecycle couldn't beat the robo&fruits at all. I think they are in a strong need for supporting developers, some of them may already have gone so far...

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

that's exactly what i do... :(

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You are right, they did freeze the features. It's been so long I forgot. GPS is a lot better judging from the leaked version. Instant Messinger integration isn't one of my interests.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

please explain this.

Do you want IM to work without internet connection or do you not want IM integration with Contacts?

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

to be honest i've been secretly hoping that there's a few surprise bonuses when it finally comesl... do you think that's totally out of the question?

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Hope the official PR 1.2 will have a virtual keyboard in portrait mode. If not, I'm so switching to Opera Mobile.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Opera mobile has it's own portrait keyboard? I don't actually ever use the browser in anything other than landscape (I think the portrait mode is a waste of time for the developers, and a COMPLETE waste of time if theres no keyboard for it), but it's cool that the Opera developers went that little bit extra to make the user experience better for all use cases.Kudos Opera!

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

This is a speculation thread, so let me speculating a bit :)

Maemo died, the only real reason to release PR1.2 was to provide qt 4.6.2 and give to n900 users the possibility of use (buy) qt-unified ovi store apps (giving nokia another ROI), other improvements are out due to old maemo departement plans, but are the last effort. That will be the only way to have n900 owners buying apps, as they will not get meego officially.

As the store business is not yet ready there is no need to release PR1.2 soon, and has much sense to test it for another couple of months by the last two developers that were not yet migrated to meego, becouse it will be the last maemo5 upgrade, and noone wants to dig again in gtk sources.

LOL :)

Just joking :)

Niko

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and he is right - thursday is public holiday in finland. so nobody takes work serious for the end of the week. next week is a good chance it will be released but i doubt it - long weekend - slow week start -> so week after then should be the hot week of 1.2 release.

thats the mentality of finns - they just dont know how to work efficient and they lost trac with the speed how things happen around them.
one could say they work with the speed of the spanish - manjana mentality :)

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Where did this whole "last two developers that were not yet migrated to meego" thing come from?

I know you were joking but seriously...

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Oh ok.

Never experienced that one

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

H'mm public holiday on Thursday pro'ly means a long Finnish week-end. Based on some of their past releases this smells like Wednesday is the day then :D

OS2007 and OS2008 had major updates released the day before a long Holiday for Nokia... ah, good times.

***

Back to this version of PR1.2...

With PR 1.1 I could point to my M3U playlists from links in a locally stored web page and the media player would open and load the playlist. This was pretty handy as I had one page I opened that contained album art images that I used to link to the corresponding playlists.

This is broke in PR1.2. The M3U's now open as text files. :eek:

I hope that gets fixed or I figure out where to make this association again.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I think they can not decide which button must be replaced in the browser ... therefore they can not release the firmware ..

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

@nicola.mfb You've hit the nail on the head there.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Look at the timing of PR1.2 delay.

I think it wouldn't be too surprising if they instead released MeeGo PR1.2 for N900, after all this delay.

(heh.)

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Do you know what is bugtracker?

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I don't know where the stuff about developers migrating to MeeGo comes from, but it makes sense -- read the newspapers, there are major changes going on at Nokia. Have you ever been at an organization making major changes? Big disruptions occur. Everyone is distracted. The rules keep changing. This causes people to slow down.

Just look at this site for a moment -- things are changing here. Migration is happening to the MeeGo site. Some key players are disappearing for long periods of time and it's not clear what they are up to, exactly.

This is just a tiny example of what must be happening at Nokia. So naturally there are consequences. Hopefully, everything will straighten out and even get better. But I think it makes sense that some of the delay we are seeing is the result of organizational change, not just how long it is taking to fix some bug.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

A what? Could you please elaborate on that - as a spanish I find it quite offending and out of place.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Interesting snippets on Nokia Nseries in the Nokia official blog
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ons+-+Posts%29

Most interesting
"If you own a Maemo device it’s set to become a collectors item as the Nokia N900 is likely to be the last handset running the OS"
...... Is it only because of the OS ????

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Well Maemo is being merged with Moblin to form Meego. So the N900 is the last device that will run the Maemo OS unless Nokia decides to put out another one (which I can't see them doing).

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

The problem is there's no better phone than the n900 . . . Just have to be patient and wait for the update

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

I did consider this possibility in the past, but the chances got even more remote when that RC version of PR1.2 leaked. I don't believe Nokia would intentionally leak a bogus PR1.2 FW just as a strategy to hide their intention of suddenly get official Meego to N900... BTW, I think you meant Meego 1.0, since it would be a "new" O.S.

But the news about Portrait Mode for the entire UI working on the leaked version of PR1.2 was really surprising, since here on this forum Nokia was always clear that this was planned only for Harmattan/Maemo 6, even before the Meego announcement.

Re: Speculation about PR1.2
 

Why yes I do... Thanks for asking.

Is there a bugtracker for software that I'm not supposed to have and has not been released yet? :)

I kind of hope those who respond to tracked bugs are taking advantage of the delay and follow threads like these.

However (followed by a long and heavy sigh), that doesn't happen and when the software does get released, it still has these bugs. Because the time between leak and release is so long, when it is released those affected by the leak may have discovered a work around, posted it in a thread that never gets viewed, and have moved on.

Any News on the New Firmware?!
 

any news about the release-date of the new official firmware?!

Re: Any News on the New Firmware?!
 

No news. Seems like the whole universe is waiting for PR 1.2.