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Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 646705)

I cannot believe a teacher just wrote that. Or rather, I do not want to believe...

There is NO NEED WHATSOEVER to teach anyone how to use a specific operating system. The concept of teaching "computer literacy" will soon go under together with the baby boomers who needed it. My generation (X) relied on RTFM mostly, so we did not need teachers. Anyone younger than my generation just uses computers WITHOUT studying them first. My kid was fully proficient as a not-tech Windows user at 6...

Jeez, some lame excuse...

Not everyone in my urban school district has access to a computer outside of the school environment. You are blessed to be in the position of exposing your children at an early age. We not only have to teach your kid but every other kid, regardless of basic skill set that comes from home, how to get prepared for the real world. There may be no need to teach a specific operating system but you have to teach them to use a computer. So do you teach them with an OS that is on 5% of the machines or one that is 90% of the machines?

One of the complaints of years past was "The kids were all taught on Apple IIe machines and PCs are in the work place." Perhaps some of the institutional Windowsphilia comes as a reaction to that criticism.

I am all for letting the students take a class in Linux, C++, php or what ever technology tool they want to learn. Once they graduate the machine they turn on in the business where they landed a job is probably going to be a Windows machine.

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 647104)

One of the complaints of years past was "The kids were all taught on Apple IIe machines and PCs are in the work place." Perhaps some of the institutional Windowsphilia comes as a reaction to that criticism.

Years past Mac and Windows worked almost nothing alike. And CDE was also very cludgey. (people still swear by it though..)

Mac still is a bit out in left field... but Windows and KDE/Gnome (two most common Linux DE's) are pretty much interchangeable on how they look/feel/work.

But, very basic example, teaching kids to "look for an applications menu" is a better idea than teaching kids to "click start".

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 647114)

Agreed. Especially your comment about clicking 'Start'. A lot of good it'll do, now, to look for 'Start' in these newest versions of Windows.

Get back to computer science and stop pretending that Windows is what a computer looks like.

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 647123)

Agreed. Especially your comment about clicking 'Start'. A lot of good it'll do, now, to look for 'Start' in these newest versions of Windows.

This is true. I had forgotten that start was replaced by the blue windows logo ball now ;). Still on XP at the work environment and the home environment well.. hah. Windows. Right.

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Get back to computer science and stop pretending that Windows is what a computer looks like.

... I really hope this wasn't directed at me....

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 647128)

... I really hope this wasn't directed at me....

I think I directed it at anyone that thinks Windows is what computers look like. But then, that was from me half an hour ago. I was so much younger and wilder then.

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

I think that a person without an antivirus program wouldn't necessarily know if they had ever had a virus. But they would be dangerous to their friends.

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

What the hell is a woman working in a school and not cooking the dinners? (sorry not 4chan...)

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by geneven (Post 647164)

I think that a person without an antivirus program wouldn't necessarily know if they had ever had a virus. But they would be dangerous to their friends.

Are we still talking COMPUTER viruses here? :eek:

I never use a constantly-on AV, but periodically scan my computer, and usually find nothing (or, rarely, very low threat level nuisances). I believe that the ONLY way to protect your data is by regular backups, and anything else is FUD.

Using an AV all the time is like taking antibiotics every day...

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

for those people earlier in this thread wanting a manual for ubuntu... i came across this one a few days ago:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/u...-released.html

Re: Teacher tells students Linux is “illegal” and confiscates their copies

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Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 647104)

...but you have to teach them to use a computer...
...Once they graduate the machine they turn on in the business where they landed a job is probably going to be a Windows machine.

I agree that it is important for every kid to be given the opportunity to interact with computers, at home or in school. Still, if they need TEACHING (rather than learning/discovering by themselves), I guess that they will only use a computer in their future job to add the price for the fries and the burger...