Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Convince me otherwise by pointing it's flaws over the N900 :)
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No offense, but does anybody actually care that much as to convince you?

Hope you have a good time using whatever device you end up with.

EDIT: Oh, this is your second thread along the same lines. Yawn.

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* If you're from any other country than an English one, you won't get a QWERTY slide keyboard in your own language.
* It's kinda ugly
* Make sure you get Android 2.1 - otherwise it's total BS
* Camera is probably pretty crappy (http://phandroid.com/2009/11/03/moto...camera-review/)

If it weren't for these issues, I would probably have bought one too.

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my two cents.
If you could not convince yourself after having it for few months.
I dont think anyone could convince you to keep it.

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Why bother convincing you to do otherwise? Already posting this shows only two possible cases.

a) you're eager to hop on Android clearly on its application versatility
b) you're being uncertain of future timeline of meego/maemo on n900 and thus want to cling to a platform which has a clear roadmap and updates coming.

don't get me wrong, android is okey to use but my personal prefs are towards maemo.

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c) you have too much money and time to fart-*** around with toys..


I didnt hear of the milestone till after Id got my N900 and too me it sounded SHITE

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You basically just hit the spot with why I'm moving. That and the slightly bigger capacitive screen and overall thinner device.

Well, the main reason I'm asking is that it might have flaws that I'm unaware of. The MP3 skipping issue has been fixed in 2.1 and I actually think the device looks really nice.

So are there any flaws that I'm unaware of?

@cashclientel I don't get how lazy has anything to do with it. If you mean I should google stuff I'm doing it parallel with this thread. Once I trade it there's no going back.

My major compromise is the internal memory but a 16gig SD is pennies anyway.
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Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Trading it with another person. No money involved. Also could you please elaborate on WHY exactly it sounded like "SHITE" to you? I'd like to know.
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Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Ask yourself instead why this person is trading to get the N900...

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He said he wasn't impressed with the Milestone.
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I have both the Nokia N900 and the Motorola Milestone.

My Milestone has been collecting dust for the last 4 months as it was totally un-usable on 2.0 and 2.0.1. With the release of 2.1 and Google Navigation this device is finally working in the way that I would expect (i.e. MP3s that dont skip).

However it isnt totally bug free and I still cannot get my coroprate MS Exchange to work, even though it supports full provisioning now.

If your friend installs 2.1 then I imagine they will want to reconsider the deal!.

I have stopped using the N900 (for now) as all development on this platform has ground to a halt (not to mention the poor power management). I wait to see if PR1.2 and Qt framework can breath any life back into the Maemo platform.

The Beta Qt Creator looked promising but it still has a long way to go before it can compete commercially.

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I heard about the N900 before it was released and pre-ordered it as soon as I could, as it looked and sounded amazing. The media released by nokia for the N900 (too me) was great! I now know that the N900 wasnt meant to be a big thing, but too me its almost the perfect device.

The Milestone sounded good, but not good enough compared to the N900. I didnt like the look much, plus im no Motorola fan. To me, Nokia was always biggest name in phones, and personally owning a few, found them reliable and usually have the best technology. Android phones have never appealed to me anyway, cant say why.

I have owned an N96 which is the best 'phone' ive owned, (im thinking of getting another for gps) and an N97 which is the biggest piece of sh*t. (literally, that things bigger than the N900, but a little lighter)

With my N900, I have the rc of pr1.2 firmware and it has made it even better than before (the update)! PSX Emulator which plays tony hawk 4 (and more) almost perfect with a PS3 controller, hooked up to a TV (or use 2 controllers with SNES Emulator or GBA Emulator, etc) plus all the other games and apps.. just see my youtube vids in my signature

To me, the maemo (5) apps have substance, but I have no idea of what android apps are like.. the N900's OS is open also, which makes for great apps. people in the "community" help each other develop, install, bug fix, play, create, get technical support, share experiences and have a laugh (or a troll).

PLUS, oh did I mention.. N900 has 32GB, so + 16GB SD = 48GB of space.. (thereabouts anyway.)

/Rant.

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

This is a device for smart people who enjoy openness, multitasking and excellent hardware. That's why. =)

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

why do you need anyone to convince you? it sounds like you've already made your mind up, do you want us all to panic and try and convince you to stay a maemo user and not use another device because we can't bare to lose an N900 user, do us all a favour and stop wasting your time and ours with pointless posts like this.

If you want better friendlier advice, post in a manner which says, that you would like advice, point out your reservations and reasons for wanting to change/not change, it makes absolutely no odds to me whether you keep the N900 or not, i just hope that everyone finds the right device for them, i'm always happy to help and clarify, but i'm not impressed by pointless drivel like this

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Well as I said to others, Motorola is know for not doing well with software upgrades and in this case you want them...

I decided between several phones and decided against android for several good reasons. One is that it claims to be free but isn't. You see what happens here? Apart of some closed drivers the community took over already. I can call sms IM without any closed source nokia app and have a computer in my pocket instead of a phone being able to do some stuff a computer can!

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You do realise that the phone stack and the Conversations and Call UI are closed, right?

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Since the topic announces you have already made your decision, have fun!

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...and then?

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Well, 2.1 Just came out on the Milestone and was available for the droid for months so already this is way better than what Nokia is doing with pr 1.2.

@f2thak
Are you aware that ZodTTD is going to develop a fully working PSX emulator for Android and that it already has fully working emulators of the SNES, GBA, Genesis and more.
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Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Can you multitask with your soon to be Droid, Let's say 30 applications open? Like our N900

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

why won't you trade for a:
http://www.lime-office.com.au/img/pr...casio/ms80.jpg

?

its almost the same!

Or you can trade for these ones too:

http://www.blackangel4.xpg.com.br/calculadora_hp12c.jpg

http://www.oaktreevintage.com/web_ph...Calculator.jpg

isn't these the droid itself? I am confused :confused:

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

But the 2.1 update introduced a number of new issues:


http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/

...good luck with that.

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

I own both. They are both decent phones. Nevertheless, the Milestone mostly rests in the drawer. Reasons include:

• N900 keyboard is better
• N900 screen is easier to read in difficult conditions
• no tethering (unless rooted)
• unlike Droid, no custom ROMs/kernels on Milestone
• cannot ssh/scp into phone
• very limited set of commands in terminal (unless busybox installed)
• very difficult to port standard apps to Android due to missing libs, modified kernel
• chat/skype integration much nicer on N900
• better camera on N900
• no flash on Milestone so far

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As pointed out by the others, who cares?

But, if I already wasted my time reading this, I might as well answer.

So, you're trading Maemo for Android? NO WAY!
That little insect-looking robot on their logo is just disgusting. And the Milestone looks pretty ugly.

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Yeah!
Shoot the greenish robot. :cool:

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not again! please! stop! :D

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Good luck trading it again for an N900!

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Attachment 9674

Ok Stopped
Now. Kill the greenish robot :D

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

we have that kinda app right? on the "science" portion of downloads?

does that mean we have droids on our n900 :D

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Lol, I am looking forward to see you on the Google discussion whining about Milestone's flaws... People like you will always find the worst things in a device, so really I won't be surprised if I see you posting on some android forum whining about it's flaws.. (Nothing's perfect).. Meanwhile, we will be enjoying our N900s and also MeeGo (in the future).. Farewell sir, and may you find happiness in a device some day..

(Typed from my N900's super fast browser)..

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Maybe I'm confused, but what's to stop you from putting a custom ROM on the Milestone (assuming that it's hardware is exactly the same as the Droid's minus the difference in the cellular chip)? My friend does that on the Droid all the time.

Re: Trading my N900 for a Milestone tomorrow
 

Look, guy. Your friend has a Milestone? Just trade for a week and you'll get it.

Wanna control what apps close when, and have 10+ apps run at once? Avoid Android, which decides what apps get killed when resources get low. Remember, Android apps get paused in the background, and not all APIs are accessible in the background, if I remember right. Maemo allows total control over app management, with fast app switching.

Capacitive screens are okay, but if you type with your nails on the Milestone, it won't work. So you better have short nails. Oh yeah, and be prepared to zoom alot in the browser. A fat finger or thumbpad is the last thing you should use to select small links. And using a pencil or stylus when your hands are dirty is out.

Aside from my USB port, the N900 is built like a tank. The Milestone my friend owns has already lost its volume buttons, the screen layer is lifting at one corner, and the paint is scratching off.

The N900 browser has no peer, and the Fennec and Chrome alternative browsers are as good as the default on the Droid. The limited apps are mainly because of the Ovi Store's nascent nature on Maemo. There are plenty of apps in development, and I've seen alot of them. Many of the apps are to cover the fact it lacked Flash. There is little the Milestone does the N900 doesn't do better.

Ever used the Droid camera? Ever shot dark video? I wouldn't...

Android is using the Linux kernel like Maemo, but ditched most of the runtime infrastructure for a proprietary runtime structure. Maemo runs a full Linux stack. So one is controlled by Google, and can be changed to make anything incompatible on a whim. Maemo uses standard open protocols and runtimes, and its run by many companies in the public eye.

Droid keys suck. Period.

Droid is a decent device, and a great smartphone. N900 is miles ahead, and a revolutionary computer. So is smartphone > computer, or is computer > smartphone? Answer that and you're ahead of the game.

But seriously, just trade for a week like I did. You'll know pretty quick. Some prefer the smartphone. I'm more "aspirational", as Nokia calls it, about my mobile performance. What are you?

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Ok, the whole keyboard sucking is an opinion. There are those who don't like the N900's keyboard (ysss for example I think prefers the Blackberries). While the Droid reminds me of the n810 (I didn't like either of those keyboards). While my friend is perfectly happy with his Droid's keyboard.

As for the camera, I do have to say the N900 is better (though both suck in dark video conditions, I'll have to see what PR 1.2. brings with its night video mode).

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@nax3000: Go away, Beat it, piss off, ta ta...

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When I look at any platform, I look for developer versatility. Android uses Java and its nascent C based NDK. Nokia uses Qt, Flash, GTK, C, Python, etc. So I see no comparison. More developers and better toolkit support vs. US focused app fever that will be evened out by Symbian, which shares an app ecosystem with Maemo. Does Android share an app ecosystem with anyone? Not without Xcode, which isn't an optimal solution. I think cross platform development will be the next rally cry to replace open source.

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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:)best post in this thread!really!!!

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Most people that like the Droid keyboard are probably moving from an IPhone, G1, or full touch devices. Just like the N97's keys, which were ok, but great if coming from a 5800.

Those keys will do, but could be alot better. N900 keys are small, but tactile feedback is good, and layout is speed optimized. I love the space on the right!

Camera performance is ok, as is the N900. But the N900 is no imaging flagship. The Droid is one of the best Android imaging devices.

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I own both and the biggest advantage of the milestone/android is the complete gmail integration (if you are not afraid to give google all your information ...) and the way better everyday phone/PIM functionality (better contactmanagement, searchfunctions, synching, complete protrait mode). That may change with PR 1.2, but who knows ...

Except of the batterycover the build quality of MY milestone is near perfect and I have nothing to fear when putting the milestone in my pocket without any extra casing or cover - contrary to my N900 with a lot of small scratches on its plastic display altough I handle it like a princess. And not to forget the very, very poor battery life (hope that will change with PR 1.2 ...)

The biggest disadvantage of the milestone - but thats is typically android - its slow compared to the N900. When you really start to work with that thing and you've some background tools running it starts stuttering. You really feel that all those apps are going through that dalvik bottleneck.