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fergusso 2010-05-07 21:28

If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
hi evryone,

3 months ago I have upgraded my phone from vodafone. there are delays on my order so i kept phoning them for the update of the delivery. vodafone agent says she will process my order again to make sure i will be receiving it the next day.

delivery guy came to my place and had me sign for a receipt .... (says 1 nokia n900) .... and he handed me over 2 black boxes. i thought the other box is accessory box until i realized it was another n900.

called vodafone and asked how many phones i ordered on my account and it shows on their record it was 1 n900. I waited 2 months for them to discover it. nothing! i was about to keep it for few more months until my wife is arguing with me everyday to return the phone. just to make her stop, i return it to vodafone.

if you are in my situatuon what will you do? have i done the right thing?

atleast now my conscience is not bugging me anymore.

Dunsurfin 2010-05-07 21:30

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
You have done the right thing.

Pfuh3z 2010-05-07 21:35

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Darn that _is_ a real dilemma... I would have probably returned the second N900 to them too (thinking they'd notice it anyway) but I would probably keep thinking "what if I didn't return it...". Then again, one N900 is already a lot of power, and I wouldn't constantly use 2 of them (it would be nice to have a second just to test things with, but hey).
I do think you did the "right" thing here, what if someone else was actually waiting on an N900 that never came because it was erroneously delivered to your door? I wouldn't want to be that guy... :)

maguitodelrock 2010-05-07 21:36

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I will really have a bad time deciding, but if the wife are telling so, thats god's law for you...

atilla 2010-05-07 21:37

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
hmmmmmm i would sell it;)when vodafone says that your order was ones so they dont know anythink and you can dont give a ****.but jes it was the right decision but not the better one......

ALLEyezOnMe 2010-05-07 21:46

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Definitely the right thing to do, but to be honest, I would have given it to my mum :) She is still using her "Vodafone" mobile phone :)

UNderworld 2010-05-08 03:15

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
if i were dealing with a person, then i wouldve been fair to them.... but if its a company like voda, im keeping it. do u think they will let u go away if u exceed ur minutes a little bit? u pay even for every single mistake, y not them??

Descalzo 2010-05-08 03:39

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
If you keep it, you're a thief. I don't see the dilemma. You married well.

nrajesh 2010-05-08 06:16

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I believe what you did is right!

gazza_d 2010-05-08 06:36

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Hmm. After checking with Vodafone, and then sitting on it for a couple of months to see if they noticed on their own, then I would have kept it. You checked with them and gave them time.

if the wife was giving me grief, then I would keep it quiet and pretend to have only one!

ste-phan 2010-05-08 07:14

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
The question is "what would you do", right?
Easy! ->
Wrap it in a nice valentine packaging paper and hand it to the wife including PR1.2 preinstalled.
This way we can play together and Nokia and their friends pay for not including individual score records of Mahjong best times :cool:

afaq 2010-05-08 09:12

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
vodafone are stupid. the same thing happened to me when i ordered the N97 from them.

my original order was placed online and as it failed to arrive on release date their phone agent placed a second order on the phone. and yep got both of them on the same day. there seems to be a bug with their order tracking.

i waited a few days. called them to check if i signed up for two monthly contracts or one. everything was fine.

il leave it to your imagination as to what i did in the end.

(hint: 2 crappy N97's might make up one great N900)

ysss 2010-05-08 09:26

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Heh, I guess it's true that people give in to their temptations first then rationalize their actions afterward.

fergusso 2010-05-08 11:01

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 649085)
vodafone are stupid. the same thing happened to me when i ordered the N97 from them.

my original order was placed online and as it failed to arrive on release date their phone agent placed a second order on the phone. and yep got both of them on the same day. there seems to be a bug with their order tracking.

i waited a few days. called them to check if i signed up for two monthly contracts or one. everything was fine.

il leave it to your imagination as to what i did in the end.

(hint: 2 crappy N97's might make up one great N900)


I was tempted to keep it. all the forums i have visited they keep the phone with them and their networks didnt noticed it and they were not charged. only thing that made me return it is that my wife got lots of beliefs about karma ... bad things might happen etc. so I was forced to return it. Id like to sell it to get an xperia x10 but anyway im happy now im free from that pressure.

tobylee 2010-05-08 23:00

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
After them charging me Ģ140 for 25mb of data, I'd of sold it so i could pay the bill!

talonz 2010-05-08 23:13

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I've had the same thing happen to me with a a fridge they sent me out one and 2 days later they sent me out another, usually mess ups like this are computer glitches caused by user error and are not on recorded i kept the 2nd fridge considered a buy one get one free deal and my mother was extremely happy with her early mothersday gift :D

i dont consider it dishonest or theft, the way i see it is if i was given something even if it was by mistake and they do not call to try fix the mistake that has been made then they dont care if u got more then wat u paid for. its like going to an ATM and withdrawing 50 dollars but when the money came out u get 2 50 dollars stuck to each other ... would you really go into the bank and hand back the extra 50 u recieved.

afaq 2010-05-08 23:20

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 649093)
Heh, I guess it's true that people give in to their temptations first then rationalize their actions afterward.

thank you for your enlightened comment. really thank you.

~phoenix~ 2010-05-08 23:33

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
when i get a package here from A1 Vodafone they always leave it right in front of the door without taking a signature or something....


i would keep it @ home .... and if they ask me i would say "i ordered 1, and i got what i ordered, not my problem, itīs the problem of DHL"

when your got two its not vodaphones fault.... its dhl's fault... and i would let them pay for that.... it wouldn't be the first "lost" package... because many packages already has been stolen, because they not even look if someone is @ home....


if i would be that guy from dhl... i would give the package to the neighbours, take their signature and would leave a message in teh mailbox...

geneven 2010-05-08 23:59

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I would give the extra to a friend with the understanding that I might need it back.

Yes, I am a thief in certain circumstances.

ysss 2010-05-09 00:00

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 649877)
thank you for your enlightened comment. really thank you.

I can't tell whether this was a sarcastic remark or not =p

UNderworld 2010-05-09 00:10

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~phoenix~ (Post 649888)
when i get a package here from A1 Vodafone they always leave it right in front of the door without taking a signature or something....

It happened with me twice in the past month, not with dhl, but with royal mail..
I order things from ebay which are sent recorded, and I see it outside my door, with the recorded stamp on..
I guess the postman is too much in a hurry to write a missed delivery note....:D

By the way, see how vodafone screwes its customers on data charges

Memph1s 2010-05-09 08:26

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I would have kept the second phone as a backup just in case anything went wrong with the first. Vodafone had you on file as only ordering one phone, the delivery report only had you down for one phone. All you signed for was one phone, if anyone did question you, the evidence says you accepted one phone.

If it was the case that someone else was waiting for that second phone, they would have done exactly the same thing as you did and rang Vodafone to ask when they would be recieving their phone and Vodafone would process the order again for them.

In my world, if someone makes a mistake, it's theur fault. If I make a mistake, fair enough, I made a mistake!

ndi 2010-05-09 16:26

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Not really. If my bill is 100E and I mistakenly send them 200, it gets added to my tally and the next invoice will reflect that. They will not steal from you if you can prove you made the payment.

They will jack you any legal way, though, so I guess it's open for debate. IIRC it's not legal for you to keep it, so there.

I wish I knew what I would have done.

vietn900 2010-05-09 16:31

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
what he did was right but what i would do is probably different hahaha

fergusso 2010-05-10 12:36

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Memph1s (Post 650214)
I would have kept the second phone as a backup just in case anything went wrong with the first. Vodafone had you on file as only ordering one phone, the delivery report only had you down for one phone. All you signed for was one phone, if anyone did question you, the evidence says you accepted one phone.

If it was the case that someone else was waiting for that second phone, they would have done exactly the same thing as you did and rang Vodafone to ask when they would be recieving their phone and Vodafone would process the order again for them.

In my world, if someone makes a mistake, it's theur fault. If I make a mistake, fair enough, I made a mistake!

i could have really sold it. i know it's a practical way to deal with it. but the feelings of guilt that's what I don't like. I just thought .... well I will earn it anyway ... in a good way. good thing my wife pressured me to return it because my subconscious tells me to keep it sell it and have android to play around LOL

andyr0ck 2010-05-10 12:55

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
i would keep. if Voda ask for it back, fair enough. if not, their bad.

my 2p: your mistake was telling your wife about the duplicate in the first place. ;-)

ysss 2010-05-10 12:59

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Going by the prevailing logic in this thread...

If one day you lose your N900...

....then it would be ok for the person to keep it if they reason that it was your fault in the first place to mishandle it?

....or if they think you're well-off enough to afford another unit?

Larswad 2010-05-10 13:13

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by talonz (Post 649874)
I've had the same thing happen to me with a a fridge they sent me out one and 2 days later they sent me out another, usually mess ups like this are computer glitches caused by user error and are not on recorded i kept the 2nd fridge considered a buy one get one free deal and my mother was extremely happy with her early mothersday gift :D

i dont consider it dishonest or theft, the way i see it is if i was given something even if it was by mistake and they do not call to try fix the mistake that has been made then they dont care if u got more then wat u paid for. its like going to an ATM and withdrawing 50 dollars but when the money came out u get 2 50 dollars stuck to each other ... would you really go into the bank and hand back the extra 50 u recieved.

:eek: wtf, Did you order a FRIDGE from vodaphone, and THEY SENT YOU TWO fridges? Wow, you ARE lucky! They must be expanding their product line.

No, seriously, I would have kept the darn N900 in its box for a few months, and then given it to my wife, wrapped in gold paper and decorated it with some nice poetic writing (and she'd happily accept it). Why should I weep over a greedy brand-everything-you-buy company like Vodaphone? Allow me to laugh. If it would been a private person doing that mistake its a different story though, then I would have sent it back without doubt.
Their mistake --> Suck it up. :cool: Them making such mistake IS good karma, you should tell that to your wife. (Sounds like it's the delivery boy though that did they actual goofing)

rmerren 2010-05-10 15:19

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
I would have stuck an apple sticker over the Nokia logo and called around to blog sites telling them I found the iPhone v5 prototype in a bar until one of them paid me thousands of dollars for it.

ndi 2010-05-10 16:19

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
It's black.

Memph1s 2010-05-10 22:35

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 651771)
Going by the prevailing logic in this thread...

If one day you lose your N900...

....then it would be ok for the person to keep it if they reason that it was your fault in the first place to mishandle it?

....or if they think you're well-off enough to afford another unit?

Actually.... YES! insurance would cover against loss or theft.

woody14619 2010-05-10 22:46

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fergusso (Post 649157)
only thing that made me return it is that my wife got lots of beliefs about karma ...

The question is, did you return the right one? Did you check the IMEI on the receipt against the one you kept? Both have a unique ID, (listed on the outside of the box & under the battery) and I'd have made sure to keep the one they thought they sent me.

Hard to say what I would have done... Depends on how they company treated me in the past. Since my provider has been pretty good about things, had I gotten it through them I would have returned it. If not though, I may have sold it to someone to re-sell on the streets of a foreign country? :D (There was a thread about that not long ago, btw...)

mornage 2010-05-10 23:02

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
With all the trouble I have had with vodafone, I'd definatley have kept it. Such an appaling company deserves the loss in my opinion. An independant seller would have been a completely different story.

imperiallight 2010-05-10 23:06

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
lol@tags

Tbh, a lot of hypocrites I bet, keeping the serendipitously acquired phone is nowhere near as bad as the many people who claim falsely off mobile insurance near the end of a contract. Not saying I would keep the phone hear:p

I wouldn't have the conscience to do that.

mmurfin87 2010-05-10 23:28

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Should have told an agent. If they said don't worry about it then you'd have been morally in the clear.

Theres a good chance after 2 months an agent would have said don't mess with it.

gryedouge 2010-05-10 23:35

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
so basically, most N900 users are would be petty criminals or fraudsters? :p

Count me in! :D

anidel 2010-05-10 23:59

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Of course returning is the right thing to do.
But it would have been even more rightful if these huge companies would thank for such nice gestures.

They are usually ('usually', not 'sometimes', 'usually') so bad with people and so bad in cheating on us... that I really feel I should give back to them some cheating.

I would probably feel bad (of course: cheating IS bad). But when I go read the small prints... ahh.. you might change your mind :)

fergusso 2010-05-11 00:32

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 652485)
The question is, did you return the right one? Did you check the IMEI on the receipt against the one you kept? Both have a unique ID, (listed on the outside of the box & under the battery) and I'd have made sure to keep the one they thought they sent me.

Hard to say what I would have done... Depends on how they company treated me in the past. Since my provider has been pretty good about things, had I gotten it through them I would have returned it. If not though, I may have sold it to someone to re-sell on the streets of a foreign country? :D (There was a thread about that not long ago, btw...)

I returned it with the right one. with the right IMEI.

fergusso 2010-05-11 00:36

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 652555)
Of course returning is the right thing to do.
But it would have been even more rightful if these huge companies would thank for such nice gestures.

They are usually ('usually', not 'sometimes', 'usually') so bad with people and so bad in cheating on us... that I really feel I should give back to them some cheating.

I would probably feel bad (of course: cheating IS bad). But when I go read the small prints... ahh.. you might change your mind :)

vodafone didn't thanked me at all. they even reminded me to make sure handset is working otherwise iL cover the cost of repairs. quite annoying that you are not thanked by them. still atleast I felt good I have passed the temptation.

mrebanza 2010-05-11 00:54

Re: If you received 2 nokia n900 upgrade from your network what will you do?
 
awww . . .you should have kept it . . . you could have done cool comparison videos like this . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbDs9gNT_eI


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