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sophocha 2010-05-09 23:48

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAUcrUO8rQQ

See the 'Mypaint' app....

You CANNOT do that without a resistive screen and a stylus....take that apple!

ndi 2010-05-10 00:05

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
Nearest object is already available in Fennec 1.0 as an addon.

javispedro 2010-05-10 00:12

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 651038)
"This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."

Motorola MT810 Ophone to sport both capacitive and resistive digitizers, makes TV cameo

I can't tell from the pictures if it has a stylus holder.

And for some cosmic irony of fate it's even called the MT810! :)

joelja 2010-05-10 05:38

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Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 650049)
These three uses would cover most content creation, which is a major use of tablets (unlike PMPs / ITs, where even simpler controls would do).

You can eat with your fingers, but to cook you would need a good knife.


oddly the stylus/hadwriting versus onscreen keyboard debate always seems to miss the point that usability tests tend to demonstrate that almost everyone is faster with the later...

drawing is a different exercise, if you want to write use a keyboard, you'll be more productive.

joelja 2010-05-10 05:58

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
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Originally Posted by sophocha (Post 651055)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAUcrUO8rQQ

See the 'Mypaint' app....

You CANNOT do that without a resistive screen and a stylus....take that apple!

autodesk sketchbook pro I think would tend to indicate otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...sketchbook+pro

the debate of which kind of digitizer is superior for a finger oriented device has pretty much already been won by the capacitive devices. it's mostly a question of corner cases where some other aproach is more appropriate, either cost enviromental considerations or precision (and the 4 wire active digitizer will beat both capacitive and resistive in the later case every time).

Texrat 2010-05-10 06:10

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joelja (Post 651264)
oddly the stylus/hadwriting versus onscreen keyboard debate always seems to miss the point that usability tests tend to demonstrate that almost everyone is faster with the later...

drawing is a different exercise, if you want to write use a keyboard, you'll be more productive.

Faster isn't always better.

lma 2010-05-10 08:29

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joelja (Post 651264)
oddly the stylus/hadwriting versus onscreen keyboard debate always seems to miss the point that usability tests tend to demonstrate that almost everyone is faster with the later...

Ah, but which keyboard? For me the fastest input method by far is the stylus virtual keyboard, followed by the physical one (because of the constant need to use modifier keys and the character palette) followed by the finger virtual keyboard. Handwriting comes last obviously since a single tap will always be faster than a stroke or three.

javispedro 2010-05-10 08:57

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 651295)
Faster isn't always better.

Exactly. for example I find Graffiti the best system for on-the-go text input, specially because I can use it without looking at the screen.

The only other input system that shares this trait is the hardware keyboard, but since its layout is nowhere near standarized nor intuitive...

ysss 2010-05-10 09:06

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
So.. The variables..

- speed
- accuracy
- comfort/effort
- difficulty (barrier of entry)
- flexibility (works across multiple languages, etc

I'm pretty sure virtual keyboard lists highly on the majority of the traits, given it's such a universal paradigm. If it doesn't work as well for you, chances are you'd be in the minority that has special cases/preferences.

attila77 2010-05-10 09:33

Re: Why the stylus isn’t dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 651427)
Ah, but which keyboard? For me the fastest input method by far is the stylus virtual keyboard, followed by the physical one (because of the constant need to use modifier keys and the character palette) followed by the finger virtual keyboard. Handwriting comes last obviously since a single tap will always be faster than a stroke or three.

+1. As geeky as it sounds I’m still fastest with the cr@ppy WinMo stylus keyboard. Not because it’s that great, cool and modern, but simply because the movement required for entering a char is the smallest. I still think people here think exclusively. Like, if you want to be able to use the device one handedly, then you cannot have a stylus at all. Which is wrong. There is far more ’stylus is old tech so you have to omit it to appear hip, regardless if you need it or not’ in this than anyone will admit (it’s like Jobs saying having a task manager is an automatic fail, duh).


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