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amok 2010-05-10 08:48

N900 on 3 UK.
 
Hi there.

I happen to use a sim card (pay as you go) from 3 UK on my N900 and I have noticed that every time I make skype calls my internet allowance MBs are used, although in http://www.three.co.uk/Pay_As_You_Go...ee_stuff/Skype says that skype-2-skype calls should be free.

Anyone else having the same issue?

ZogG 2010-05-10 08:49

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
You should probably call the operator and talk to him.

dj_steve 2010-05-10 08:52

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
i think its becasue three do the skype calls a special way which doesnt actually use the data connection

ZogG 2010-05-10 08:57

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 651459)
i think its becasue three do the skype calls a special way which doesnt actually use the data connection

I think it uses data connection - just the other phones apps probably use some sort of proxy or something that this data is counted other way than regular internet data

dj_steve 2010-05-10 08:58

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
no i read on here other day that they use a modded version of iskoot or something that calls a specail number which connects to skype user thats how it avoids data use

Pigro 2010-05-10 09:04

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
pretty sure skype on 3 is routed over the voice network. Interesting point whether "free" means "free within your data allowance" or free as in lunch. Last marketing I saw from Three for PAYG said free skype with no need to top up your account, so I'd tend to agree that there should be no data usage billed.

OP - is the datata usage you mention being seen on your Three account online, or by the dataplan monitor wdget (or similar) on the phone?

gibsonus 2010-05-10 09:05

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
yeh... i'm with 3. i wouldn't call them and say u have an n900. They can be difficult.

dj_steve 2010-05-10 09:06

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
here we go - direct link to post i saw :-

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=78

matts76 2010-05-10 09:25

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
hi does anyone know if i can use the 3 sim from my mobile broadband dongle in my n900, ive broken (my girlfriend dropped) my laptop but i would still like to use my 15gb allowance on my n900, i tried calling 3 and telling them i wanted to use it as a router as my usb port was broken:D but they couldn't/woudnt help, if anyone knows how i could get this to work i would realy apreciate any help

Pigro 2010-05-10 10:49

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matts76 (Post 651508)
hi does anyone know if i can use the 3 sim from my mobile broadband dongle in my n900, ive broken (my girlfriend dropped) my laptop but i would still like to use my 15gb allowance on my n900, i tried calling 3 and telling them i wanted to use it as a router as my usb port was broken:D but they couldn't/woudnt help, if anyone knows how i could get this to work i would realy apreciate any help

Can't see why not - but "suck it & see" is surely the easiest answer in these crrcumstances?

anyway, I popped in a 3 PAYG SIM from an old mobile broadband dongle which I had kicking around and I could browse to myThree and confirm that I had 0 credit remaining - so I'd imagine you're good to go as long as you're on current (1.1.1) firmware and/or it's a modern SIM. Just try it and if it DOESN'T work, you can look for some advice?

dj_steve 2010-05-10 10:51

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
i asked that about my 3 dongle and the arguement was you could use the sim for browsing and texts but calls would not likely work - accordign to threestore person

amok 2010-05-10 11:08

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
The data usage I mention is seen from my Three account online.

Pigro 2010-05-10 11:21

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amok (Post 651624)
The data usage I mention is seen from my Three account online.

so, my guess is that you are (as seems logical) simply using "standard" n900 skype, which incurs data usage, when you need to use either a "skype" branded 3 mobile phone OR use a 3 specific skype client in order to benefit from their offer. Accoding to http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Serv...all_chat/Skype you need a compatible handset and a download. N900 is not in the compatible list.

So, if you are making skype calls via n900 phone application (i.e. you've registered your skyp accoint in Voip/IM accounts) then I'd expect you to incur data charges for such calls.

matts76 2010-05-10 11:24

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
i tried putting the sim in and it recognisedmitmas a 3 sim but when i tried to go online it said something like no access piont defined, when i tried asking three for the settings they said they could only send me the mobile internet settings and that i would be charged for any data i used and it would not come off my 15gb allowance,
eventualy (when i can afford it ill get a wireless router for the dongle, i just need to find a solution till then.

Pigro 2010-05-10 11:45

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
APN: 3internet
password: leave blank
username leave blank

I believe these are the settings for three mobile broadband (mobile internet has APN three.co.uk). However I have not tried this msyelf, no idea if it will just work or if Three are dong anything 'smart' to detect that the SIM is in a smartphone rather than a dongle. So if you set up your conection with that info, be sure that you monitor closely to see that your 15G data allowance is used or you cold start racking up charges. Caveat emptor :-)

tvjames 2010-05-10 11:58

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matts76 (Post 651652)
i tried putting the sim in and it recognisedmitmas a 3 sim but when i tried to go online it said something like no access piont defined, when i tried asking three for the settings they said they could only send me the mobile internet settings and that i would be charged for any data i used and it would not come off my 15gb allowance,
eventualy (when i can afford it ill get a wireless router for the dongle, i just need to find a solution till then.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 651686)
APN: 3internet
password: leave blank
username leave blank

I believe these are the settings for three mobile broadband (mobile internet has APN three.co.uk). However I have not tried this msyelf, no idea if it will just work or if Three are dong anything 'smart' to detect that the SIM is in a smartphone rather than a dongle. So if you set up your conection with that info, be sure that you monitor closely to see that your 15G data allowance is used or you cold start racking up charges. Caveat emptor :-)

Not sure about 3 UK, but I'm using a 3 AU broadband account SIM (post-paid) in my N900 without any issues.

As quoted i did need to setup the APN but after doing that everything is working fine. Also on the Skype call thing, I've tried the 3 branded skype calling on a previous phone and it does route over the voice network and the app uses data just to update your status (etc).

When using the n900 with the 3 account the data used comes off my monthly allowance. This is no different to using the dongle in my laptop (same APN, 3netaccess in AU).

matts76 2010-05-10 12:23

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
I just tried the sugestions above but when i try to connect to the internet its not giving me an option for 3 all i can see is my neighbors locked wifi:(

just tried adding a new gprs connection with fapn but still doesn't show in available connections when i try to go online.:confused:

cpm 2010-05-10 16:52

Re: N900 on 3 UK.
 
You can order free PAYG SIMs here:
https://www.three.co.uk/Pay_As_You_G...der_a_free_SIM

I've used a Three PAYG SIM that was given away at a train station around Christmas time in my N900. I didn't have to do any APN / credentials setup - it configured itself.


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