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HELLASISGREECE 2012-10-10 18:35
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1278944)
Sorry, where can I find opera 12 for my n900?
I can't see in repos.. :)
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/l...e-10-on-maemo/

somewhere in this article there is download link.
just be sure to open the page with N900's default browser


** you can't see it in repos cause you probably don't have the Opera repo enabled.
this installation will first create the opera repository and then it will proceed with the actual Opera Mobile 12 installation.

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-10 18:45
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Thanks for the link above :)
and yes i don't have opera repo, cause i forgot it :)
what about qtml5 support? Opera support it?

tiempjuuh 2012-10-10 18:46
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Actually, the update is in Extras-Devel now ;)

lma 2012-10-10 18:51
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1278814)
No build for the N800/N810 at this time, it doesn't work right on device for unknown reasons, maybe I'll get around to figuring out why, but don't count on it.
:-(

If you can manage to get it working it would be greatly appreciated. If not, many thanks for supporting Diablo all those years in any case :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1278947)
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/l...e-10-on-maemo/

somewhere in this article there is download link.
just be sure to open the page with N900's default browser
The version on Opera's repository is ancient, they have been doing the right thing and uploading to maemo extras (see http://maemo.org/packages/view/opera-mobile/) for a while now.

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-10 18:53
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1278947)
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/l...e-10-on-maemo/

somewhere in this article there is download link.
just be sure to open the page with N900's default browser


** you can't see it in repos cause you probably don't have the Opera repo enabled.
this installation will first create the opera repository and then it will proceed with the actual Opera Mobile 12 installation.
is this link for opera 12?? Cause there is smthing only about opera 10... :/

HELLASISGREECE 2012-10-10 18:55
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
even if it's Opera 10, you'll get the update to 12 anyway.

but if it's on devel now! do it from devel repos. easiest way as the guys mentioned

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-10 18:55
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lma (Post 1278958)
:-(

If you can manage to get it working it would be greatly appreciated. If not, many thanks for supporting Diablo all those years in any case :-)



The version on Opera's repository is ancient, they have been doing the right thing and uploading to maemo extras (see http://maemo.org/packages/view/opera-mobile/) for a while now.
thanks I'm trying now :)

HELLASISGREECE 2012-10-10 19:03
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Today I flashed my N900 and installed Opera from that link ^

dunno why the Hell did I post the other link (with Opera 10)
Alzheimer

sifo 2012-10-10 19:06
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Thanks for the update ohrn, actually i started using Opera-browser every where after i used on my N900 :)

./sifo

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-10 19:31
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Updated to 12.1... Thanks for everything...
But can't play youtube videos again??

Sphinx780 2012-10-10 19:54
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1278994)
Updated to 12.1... Thanks for everything...
But can't play youtube videos again??
No Flash in Opera for the N900, this has been mentioned many times in the thread that it will not be a part of Ohrn's generous spare time project for us.

Let's just continue to thank Ohrn for the great work and contribution to the community. It's been a pleasure having Opera on my N900, Thank you once again!

sifo 2012-10-10 20:05
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1278972)

dunno why the Hell did I post the other link (with Opera 10)
Alzheimer
You made my day xD !
i kept searching in that link for about 15 minutes :D , then i realized it is in extras-devel...thanks

./sifo

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-10 20:05
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sphinx780 (Post 1279000)
No Flash in Opera for the N900, this has been mentioned many times in the thread that it will not be a part of Ohrn's generous spare time project for us.

Let's just continue to thank Ohrn for the great work and contribution to the community. It's been a pleasure having Opera on my N900, Thank you once again!
of course, thanks anyway.. But playing youtube videos should"t be such a hard thing at all, can be done easily.. But they don't do it... Can't understand why???

guilledoc 2012-10-10 21:52
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
opera vkm doesn't show here too :(

_David_ 2012-10-10 22:11
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sphinx780 (Post 1279000)
No Flash in Opera for the N900, this has been mentioned many times in the thread that it will not be a part of Ohrn's generous spare time project for us.
Presumably bookmarklets can't start external programs, but at the least, a Linux script which takes a Copied link, adds the "http://" and passes it to CuteTube should be possible? This would be 5 touches/keypresses as opposed to 5 <wait 4s> 4 more.

Removing Opera vkp looks deliberate. Why do you need it?

guilledoc 2012-10-10 22:24
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _David_ (Post 1279045)
Removing Opera vkp looks deliberate. Why do you need it?
Becouse itīs much better for portrait than the stock one!

_David_ 2012-10-10 23:10
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1279050)
Becouse itīs much better for portrait than the stock one!
But much worse than pushing out the keyboard?

PS: Can anyone confirm Select -> Copy is broken?

STVN 2012-10-11 00:09
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _David_ (Post 1279059)
But much worse than pushing out the keyboard?

PS: Can anyone confirm Select -> Copy is broken?
The main reason for using the Virtual keyboard is for the posibility of type with the phone in portrait mode and one hand. In fact, is my personal reason for using Opera mobile.

Copy not working for me too

sLumPia 2012-10-11 01:09
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _David_ (Post 1279059)
PS: Can anyone confirm Select -> Copy is broken?
Select-Copy is not working too on my phone

KTy 2012-10-11 04:09
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Opera vkb is the worst kbd ever !

zincholic 2012-10-11 04:49
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
excellent update...well done

michaaa62 2012-10-11 06:07
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Hm, vkb is working fine here. May that be theme inflicted? Did anyone try another hildon theme?

Great work, @ohrn, thanks a lot!

freemangordon 2012-10-11 06:25
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohrn (Post 1278814)
Hello everyone,

I've just uploaded 12.1 for the N900 to the development repository. This will be the final major update for Maemo, however since since the build has received very little testing I might do a bug fix update if any brown-paper-bag bugs show up.

No build for the N800/N810 at this time, it doesn't work right on device for unknown reasons, maybe I'll get around to figuring out why, but don't count on it.

I'd like to give a big thank you to all Opera fans, the weekly usage statistics have stayed surprisingly steady over the last year, that's what motivated me to create this final release.


/ohrn
Any chance to build that using thumb2? It is just a matter of setting up a new target in ScratchBox by following http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_too....7.2-linaro%29. Once you give me the .deb of thumb-compiled Opera, I will upload it to CSSU-thumb repo.

vi_ 2012-10-11 07:48
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTy (Post 1279106)
Opera vkb is the worst kbd ever !
YOU'RE the worst vkb ever.

Thank you ohrn, post your paypal address so we can all send you pizza pls.

_David_ 2012-10-11 10:36
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by STVN (Post 1279071)
The main reason for using the Virtual keyboard is for the posibility of type with the phone in portrait mode and one hand. In fact, is my personal reason for using Opera mobile.
What are you doing with your other hand? Eating pizza?

I'm having a problem where pressing CR in forum text boxes will post the comment instead of creating a new line. Bit like Facebook all over again. Happens on phpBB at least.

+1 for Opera Thumb.

artpra 2012-10-11 12:44
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
There is font rendering problem with v12 - cut off characters, incorrectly resized, misplaced etc. Small (pixel size) errors here and there. Maybe something with antialiasing?

Acurus_ 2012-10-11 18:33
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Firstly I would like to thank everybody, who is still working on a newer Opera Version for our "old" N900. But the latest Beta-Version has a lot of bugs:

- it is slower (reaction time after clicking a link)
- cannot use the virtual tastatur
- cannot paste, what has been copied
- cannot write right in an answering field (like here at maemo.org)

Do we get a version with less bugs in the near future?

Secondly: Thanks again.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-10-11 18:51
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
i can confrim , it is somewhat slower than v11.

: (

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-11 19:13
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTy (Post 1279106)
Opera vkb is the worst kbd ever !
absolutely yes... Opera is the worst of his history.. No copy-paste.. And the slowest opera is now with us... :(

_David_ 2012-10-11 21:36
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1279412)
i can confrim , it is somewhat slower than v11.
Cannot confirm. Rendering is at least 30% faster, zero delay in loading websites, couldn't say for sure if any sites took longer to load. Tabs use a lot less memory so Opera 12 is about 10x faster on 8+ tabs.

Running CSSU Thumb with SR @ 850

Haven't seen any problems with fonts.

Only problems I've noticed are Select-Copy is broken and Carriage Return is broken in some textboxes.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-10-11 21:41
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
In my N900, Opera 12 behaves almost like a snail sometimes.
Slugish and slow. "Framerate" is lower than 11.50 version.
: \

using cssu thumb @ 600mhz

Sphinx780 2012-10-11 22:15
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
I can't confirm sluggishness. Snappy and responsive compared to v11 for me running cssu thumb @ 850. Can confirm select-copy issue.

Megaltariak 2012-10-11 22:55
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
I wasn't expecting an update, this is a really good news :)

I can confirm the issue about copying text and the opera vkb
No problem with the performances however, the scrolling on some sites which used to be very sluggish is now responsive and almost totally smooth, rendering is faster too

reinob 2012-10-12 07:59
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1279422)
absolutely yes... Opera is the worst of his history.. No copy-paste.. And the slowest opera is now with us... :(
Did anybody FORCE you to install an unsupported, beta, version?

JFC. You guys keep asking for new versions of every-fu-cken-thing just for the sake of it ("we want updates!", "release early! release often!") and then complain when you get the latest "dump" of whatever program.

Just find a program/version that you can live with. And live with it.

Duke 2012-10-12 08:15
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
For me its also like a downgrade.
- Feels slower
- Its harder to klick on links. Old version seemed more finger frienly
- vkb not working
- select copy not working.

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-12 08:33
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1279597)
Did anybody FORCE you to install an unsupported, beta, version?

JFC. You guys keep asking for new versions of every-fu-cken-thing just for the sake of it ("we want updates!", "release early! release often!") and then complain when you get the latest "dump" of whatever program.

Just find a program/version that you can live with. And live with it.
have you ever seen me "dieing" for updates??? I don't want updates.. I just want to now why did this browser so slow in my device, or just me who have this problem????

reinob 2012-10-12 08:52
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1279613)
have you ever seen me "dieing" for updates??? I don't want updates.. I just want to now why did this browser so slow in my device, or just me who have this problem????
Sorry about that. I have a bad week :)

It makes a lot of difference how one writes things (I have to learn that too :).

Quote:
Opera is the worst of his history
Quote:
the slowest opera is now with us
That didn't sound (to me) like any sort of constructive feedback. Hence my rant.

gkhnkrts7 2012-10-12 09:37
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
:) yes i want to a better opera, i don't wanna "opera 12". no need update i think if opera 11 had a flash support...

Megaltariak 2012-10-12 11:27
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
I just ran twice into a serious issue:
I was browsing with several tabs (4, then 10) and I noticed the current tab was marked as loading in the tab selector even if it was fully loaded.
I switched to another tab then returned to the buggy one and it was displaying the other tab's content instead. I tried to close the buggy tab: it didn't work. Then I double-clicked it to switch to it fullscreen. It would still display the content of the other tab and worse: The button on the bottom-right corner didn't appear so my only choice was to close the browser.

Fatalist 2012-10-12 12:24
Re: [Announce] Opera Mobile 11
 
On my N900 is faster, but I noticed the lack of vkb and the select --> copy non working.
A new version is great news I was like "woah! New Opera?" when I saw it was Opera after the yellow notification in the upper notification area.


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