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Pandemonium 2007-03-13 21:57

Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Anyone else having problems with this?

If I subscribe to the RSS feed on my Nokia 770 for joystiq.com, it subscribes and pulls down the feed... but as soon as I tap on it to read that feed, the reader crashes. When I go back into the reader, if I do ANYTHING with that feed, it instantly crashes the reader: this includes trying to view it, refresh it, delete it, or edit it.

The only way to do anything with the feed after that is to go to a prompt, find the data file that contains that feed, delete it at the prompt, and then I can go into the Feed Reader and delete the feed.

But, that doesn't really solve the problem... I want to be able to subscribe to this feed! I need my video gaming news!

Interestingly, I engadget's feed works just fine, and they are the same company. Their feeds seem to be basically identical... other than the content, of course.

Pandemonium 2007-03-14 14:18

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Is it that nobody else is subscribed to Joystiq? Or, that nobody else is having the problem?

sjgadsby 2007-03-14 15:56

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandemonium (Post 39071)
Is it that nobody else is subscribed to Joystiq? Or, that nobody else is having the problem?

When I first got my N800, I tried adding the Joystiq feed many, many times. I'd enter the feed URL, click "OK", the dialogue box would close, and, though I'd never receive any sort of error message, the feed would simply not appear in the list. I eventually gave up on getting the Joystiq RSS feed on my N800.

In short, I don't have a solution, or even an explanation, for your problem. All I can say is that you're not the only one with a Joystiq hating Nokia Internet tablet.

brendan 2007-03-14 17:24

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
try this...

http://feeds.joystiq.com/weblogsinc/joystiq

sjgadsby 2007-03-14 20:04

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 39103)

The first time l tried your link, the RSS reader on my N800 said the URL was invalid. Subsequent attempts have brought the return of "no error, no new feed."

Thanks though.

Milhouse 2007-03-15 00:58

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Someone affected by this problematic feed should bring it to the attention of the Nokia developers by opening a bug in the Maemo bugzilla.

However, judging from this recent update to an existing bug, even Nokia admit the current RSS application is a lost cause. :(

TTgowings 2007-03-15 05:39

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Well I'm glad I wasn't the only one that was having this issue. I use the rest of the Engadget family of feeds with no probs but whatever I do or try with the Joystiq feed it crashes the feeder everytime. Is there any other RSS feeder software options available for the N800/2007 OS ? I kinda tried Pluck to no avail. awhile ago. (OS 2006?)

Pandemonium 2007-03-19 19:45

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
It's good to know I'm not the only one with the problem.

I submitted the bug to bugzilla... we'll see, I guess.

In the interum, if anyone has any other ideas/hacks/suggestions, feel free to post.

If I was in a position to be able to do so, I would love to try hacking up a server script that subscribes to and reads the feed, and spits it back out to another feed that we could subscribe to...

sjgadsby 2007-03-20 12:59

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandemonium (Post 39925)
I submitted the bug to bugzilla... we'll see, I guess.

Thanks, Pandemonium.

I just looked up the bug. It's #1153, and is now marked as "RESOLVED", "WONTFIX". Eero Tamminen writes that the Joystiq feed "would seem to work with the soon to be released next N800 release."

That's great for me, but unfortunately for Pandemonium, Jake Kunnari writes the bug "won't be fixed in N770."

aflegg 2007-03-20 13:21

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Should be fixed in OS2007on770, though.

Pandemonium 2007-03-20 18:28

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Well, crap. So much for their promised continued support of the 770 platform.

I'm tempted to really harass them about it, but I have the feeling that the results wouldn't be worth my time.

Milhouse 2007-03-20 19:10

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
That's crap - the RSS News Reader should be compatible with both OS 2006 and OS 2007.

One for Ari to deal with if you ask me... he's commited to continued 770 support, yet here's a prime example where that isn't happening. :(

Pandemonium 2007-03-20 21:20

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Is he the one that said, shortly after the N800 release, that Nokia would continue support for the 770?

If so, maybe I oughta call him on it.....

Milhouse 2007-03-21 00:15

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
The very same. Perhaps you should. I'm getting the impression the new N800 firmware will become available really, really soon now - it will be interesting to see if Ari releases updated OS 2006 plans shortly afterwards, as Nokia really need to target many of the outstanding OS 2006 bugs.

There's no excuse why much of the improved functionality from OS 2007 should not be backported to OS 2006 - the RSS reader being a prime example. This app is not dependent on N800 hardware or OS 2007 services, so not making the effort is just crap and disrespectful to loyal consumers.

Pandemonium 2007-03-21 14:19

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
I just sent him an email, asking for an explanation... I'll post here with the results (if any).

sjgadsby 2007-03-24 05:06

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
The Joystiq feed is indeed working fine with 3.2007.10-7.

Pandemonium 2007-03-27 18:17

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Sent an email regarding it working with 2006... no reply as of yet.

sjgadsby 2007-03-28 13:07

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 40725)
The Joystiq feed is indeed working fine with 3.2007.10-7.

It's bad form replying to myself, but I may have spoken too soon.

The Joystiq and Nintendo Wii Fanboy* feeds were finally accepted by the RSS Feed Reader in 3.2007.10-7, and they seemed to update fine for a day or so. Then, all at once, all of my RSS feeds stopped pulling in new data.

Deleting Joystiq and Nintendo Wii Fanboy has helped some of my other feeds, but I haven't received a single Engadget update since. The Ars Technica and UneasySilence feeds seem to be pulling in only some, random updates, and other feeds may be acting up as well. I haven't had time to really cross-check updates with a non-N800 feed reader, so I'm not sure what's going on yet.

*The Nintendo Wii Fanboy feed used to give me exactly the same trouble the Joystiq feed did.

sjgadsby 2007-03-28 13:20

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 41601)
The Ars Technica and UneasySilence feeds seem to be pulling in only some, random updates, and other feeds may be acting up as well. I haven't had time to really cross-check updates with a non-N800 feed reader, so I'm not sure what's going on yet.

And I continue talking to myself...

I just opened the RSS Feed Reader, and UNEASYsilence and two other feeds have somehow forgotten their addresses (URLs). I don't know if it's coincidence, but all three of these feeds are in the same folder, and they're the only feeds in that folder. It's not the same folder that held Joystiq and Nintendo Wii Fanboy.

I'm not sure how long ago these feeds lost their URLs. I know they all worked right after I updated the firmware, and I think they worked, at least briefly, after I deleted Joystiq and Nintendo Wii Fanboy.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Pandemonium 2007-08-10 21:42

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Anyone that's more familiar with RSS syntax know exactly WHAT is causing the Joystiq feed to crash the reader? Could it be some sort of malformed tag somewhere in the feed?

I'm starting to play with Yahoo Pipes, and thinking that once I figure out WHAT the problem is, I can filter it out using Yahoo Pipes and then we'll have a Joystiq feed that we all can subscribe to in order to have it work on our tablets.

My time resources are extremely low, so I'd need some help to make this happen. I was just comparing side-by-side the Engadget feed source and the Joystiq feed source, and nothing jumped out at me as differences in the header, but I don't have time to go through the content with a fine-toothed comb right now.

I already tried to pipe the feed through yahoo pipes, unfiltered, to see if maybe it would fix the problem, maybe if it was due to the way it was talking to the server, but it still crashed the reader...

Milhouse 2007-08-10 23:19

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
I've no idea what is causing the problem but according to bug #1153 this won't be fixed on 770 but is fixed on N800.

Hopefully they simply mean that this problem won't be fixed in OS 2006 but will be fixed in OS 2007 and OS 2007HE (not the currently available version, but the soon to be released version of OS 2007HE).

Pandemonium 2007-08-11 23:38

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Yep, I know, I'm just trying to find a workaround for us 770 users who don't have an N800. I dunno if I want to upgrade to 2006HE (whenever it's released) JUST to get Joystiq, but if I can filter out the problem and be fine, then why not!

Milhouse 2007-08-12 13:04

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Try adding a comment to the bug asking Nokia what the problem is - they've worked it out, but are keeping it to themselves.

Pandemonium 2007-08-23 11:44

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Workaround found!

Hadn't yet seen a reply to the bugzilla comment, so I kept fiddling with the feed in yahoo pipes. I finally discovered that if I take all their category feeds, combine them, and sort and filter them, then the result is a feed identical to their main feed, yet DOESN'T crash the 770 reader.

So, here it is for all to enjoy:
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.ru...6g&_render=rss

Is there anywhere else I oughta post this so that everyone knows about it?

christianoliff 2007-09-02 16:02

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandemonium (Post 38977)
Anyone else having problems with this?

If I subscribe to the RSS feed on my Nokia 770 for joystiq.com, it subscribes and pulls down the feed... but as soon as I tap on it to read that feed, the reader crashes. When I go back into the reader, if I do ANYTHING with that feed, it instantly crashes the reader: this includes trying to view it, refresh it, delete it, or edit it.

The only way to do anything with the feed after that is to go to a prompt, find the data file that contains that feed, delete it at the prompt, and then I can go into the Feed Reader and delete the feed.

Hello - I have the exact same problem. My RSS feed reader has been broken since I subscribed to the PS3fanboy feed (sister site of joystiq.com). How do I delete it at the prompt? Could someone please post instructions please. thanks in advance!

Pandemonium 2007-09-03 21:30

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
You need to have XTerm installed. You can grab it here:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced
Install Less, too, while you're at it:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/less

Once you've got that, open up xterm.
Type:
cd ~/.osso_rss_feed_reader/cache/feeds
ls

After you type ls, you'll get a list of files. This is going to be unique to your system, so I can't tell you what you'll see. You'll need to view each one using the "less" program we downloaded until you find the one that goes with the offending feed. You can type:
less *name of file*
Replacing *name of file* with one of the file names.

It will give you some warning about a binary file, but hit Y to continue. It will show you a screen of garbage, but somewhere in there will be some identifiable text of the name of the feed. Once you have that, hit Q to get back to a prompt. If it was not the file for the offending feed, try another. Once you know which one it is, you can delete it by typing:
rm *name of file*

After that, exit out of xterm, then go into the RSS Feed Reader and delete that feed.

Milhouse 2007-09-03 22:18

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Isn't this easier?

In xterm as user...

Make a backup of your feed file...

Code:

cd ~/.osso_rss_feed_reader/
cp feedlist.opml feedlist.bak

Now identify your PS3fanboy site by viewing the content of feedlist.opml - make a note of the "id" tag that corresponds with your PS3fanboy feed.

You can use "more" to view the file a page at a time - press space to advance to the next page, and q to quit:

Code:

more feedlist.opml
Now remove the feed. Let's assume the value for the "id" tag of your PS3fanboy feed is "puhblxn", in which case you can remove it with the following command:

Code:

cat feedlist.bak | grep -v "id=\"puhblxn\"" > feedlist.opml
Replace "puhblxn" with whatever value is present in your feedlist.opml file.

As an optional extra, you can remove the now unused PS3fanboy cache files. Using the same value you noted for the "id" tag, eg. puhblxn, execute the following commands:

Code:

cd cache
rm feeds/puhblxn
rm favicons/puhblxn.png

Replace "puhblxn" with whatever id value corresponds with your PS3fanboy feed.

Now open the main RSS Feed Reader application and your PS3fanboy feed should have been removed.

Pandemonium 2007-09-07 22:43

Re: Problems with Joystiq RSS in feed reader?
 
Thanks Milhouse, didn't know how the feedfile worked. I just tinkered around until I figured out how to do it the way I was doing it.


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