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southwalesboy 2010-05-12 22:47

Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Why is everyone on here so obsessed with merging threads? If someone starts a new thread that I find interesting, theres always someone slating them. Whats the goal here, to help people find what they need to know, or have 3 total threads with everything merged in..

If i use the search to try and find help.. Huge threads (like for example the Pr1.2 thread) always come up, and even if i find a thread that might have the answer im looking for its 50pages long and cant find in there what I need, at least not easily.

Or am I doing something totally wrong?

Texrat 2010-05-12 22:50

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
It's not an obsession, just a fun pasttime. Like knitting frog sweaters and bowling for soup.

But if you use Search effectively, the size of a thread is no issue. Have results returned by POST, not thread.

PhonoN900 2010-05-12 23:03

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
I would like to thank the moderators for cutting down on all of the ridiculous posts in this forum. Whether you do it through deletion or merging, thank you.

Sincerely,
Phono

kd_alex 2010-05-12 23:05

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
A trick I use is search from Google. Usually I don't need to be site specific either. Just type what your looking for in Google and put N900 at the end of it. Usually the Maemo Talk forum pops a with a link to the post you need.

Use 'site:talk.maemo.org' in google with your searches and it will only return hits from maemo talk forum

mehdiE 2010-05-12 23:14

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kd_alex (Post 656148)
Use 'site:talk.maemo.org' in google with your searches and it will only return hits from maemo talk forum

Or just click "Power Search" in the side bar here and that'll take you to the Google-powered search page

(Have to say that I don't really understand why this has been relegated to a link hidden in the side-bar that nobody ever looks and why the big prominent search box displayed on all pages uses a different and completely useless search engine)

weirdbeard 2010-05-12 23:14

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
one word.......skynet

sjgadsby 2010-05-12 23:17

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwalesboy (Post 656131)
Why is everyone on here so obsessed with merging threads?

Thirty-eight more merges and I'll finally have enough points for the orange, maemo.org tea towel.

kd_alex 2010-05-12 23:20

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mehdiE (Post 656157)
Or just click "Power Search" in the side bar here and that'll take you to the Google-powered search page

(Have to say that I don't really understand why this has been relegated to a link hidden in the side-bar that nobody ever looks and why the big prominent search box displayed on all pages uses a different and completely useless search engine)

Thank you sir!:D

I never new it was there. The other search engine would need to be improved to be called useless.

Texrat 2010-05-12 23:27

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kd_alex (Post 656170)
The other search engine would need to be improved to be called useless.

Maybe I should give classes since I get it to work regularly...

kd_alex 2010-05-13 02:59

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 656173)
Maybe I should give classes since I get it to work regularly...

I exagerate. Seriously though, the google method works way better IMO.

slaapliedje 2010-05-13 03:22

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weirdbeard (Post 656158)
one word.......skynet

Or more likely Wintermute.

southwalesboy 2010-05-13 14:15

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
oh yer the power search is much more useful never really noticed it before. the main search is pretty pointless. wow it found the words "sygic volume" in a 362 page 3,614 post overclocking thread lol. they should switch the searches around!

Is there any good sorta wiki straight up problems - solution pages any one can recommend?

pantera1989 2010-05-13 14:26

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Yes the search is quite pointless. No offence but I can never find what I'm looking for. I use google site:talk.maemo.org to search.

Spotfist 2010-05-13 14:45

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
The obsession with merging threads is probably due to the fact that (much like this thread) they slowly go off topic, already we are talking about how lame the search is so next we'll be talking about pr1.2 and the BAM! merged!

Also can I have a thanks for being the first to mention PR1.2

Zing! ;)

GeneralAntilles 2010-05-13 16:04

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 656879)
Yes the search is quite pointless. No offence but I can never find what I'm looking for. I use google site:talk.maemo.org to search.

Well, it's useful for when you know what you're looking for and know how to work it.

Spotfist 2010-05-14 10:34

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 657030)
Well, it's useful for when you know what you're looking for and know how to work it.

Are you high? Yesterday I tried searching for a thread on ioquake, I knew it was on here so searched for ioquake, nope I couldn't find it. I had to instead search google to get the thread on this very site! the word ioquake was in the title of the thread but didn't come up in the search!

ossipena 2010-05-14 10:36

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
now I really understand why one finnish forum has a zero tolerance with threads about moderation. all issues are handled between 2 persons and thats it.

this again... another useless thread, why couldn't you OP contact reggie with PM for example?

Texrat 2010-05-14 13:25

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spotfist (Post 658118)
Are you high? Yesterday I tried searching for a thread on ioquake, I knew it was on here so searched for ioquake, nope I couldn't find it. I had to instead search google to get the thread on this very site! the word ioquake was in the title of the thread but didn't come up in the search!

I just ran some scenarios using Advanced Search.

Searching thread titles for ioquake turned up zero results.

Searching all content for ioquake turned up many.

Searching titles for ioquake3 did return results.

Looks like a wildcard is needed in such a case. Anyway, I did prove out GeneralAntilles' assertion.

Spotfist 2010-05-14 13:40

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
ye there are plenty of threads just not the one I was looking for... It was one of those times where u can't remember anything from the thread so I had nothing more to go on but ioquake hehehe

I got there in the end and that's the main point ;) I am truly amazed that a phone is capable of running quake3 if you had told me this when quake3 was barely playing on my home pc I would have told you where to go hehehe in fact almost the same level of amazement that this thread hasn't been merged yet hehehe

zing x 2! ;)

southwalesboy 2010-05-17 13:45

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 658121)
now I really understand why one finnish forum has a zero tolerance with threads about moderation. all issues are handled between 2 persons and thats it.

this again... another useless thread, why couldn't you OP contact reggie with PM for example?

"OP contact reggie with PM for example?" I don't even understand what your saying there... I think alot of the members on this forum forget that not everyone that comes here, lives here

Spotfist 2010-05-17 13:54

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
Im just surprised this thread hasn't been merged yet... ;)

geneven 2010-05-17 14:20

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
If you know what you are looking for you are in better shape than most searchers.

The real answer to the problem is a good Wiki. Check out the Overclocking section of the Wiki and compare it to the impossibly long overclocking thread, for example.

matts76 2010-05-17 14:51

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
I for one am glad that threads with similar content get merged together, they get in the way of other usefull threads.
I came on here a couple of weeks ago and there were half a dozen threads in active topics with pr1.2 in the title, not to mention all the extra overclocking threads started because people either cant be bothered or dont know how to do a search,
speaking of which the excuse "the thread is too big, how can i find anything in 3500 posts" is ridiculous, does knowone use the search within thread in thread tools.
I think a tutorial on how to use the forum would be a good idea, if people want to post they must complete the tutorial.

maartenmk 2010-05-17 18:13

Re: Whats the Obsession with merging threads...
 
I'm with the OP (original poster?) on this. One of my gripes is that sometimes a thread becomes confusing until you read "thread with 7 msgs merged with...etc" a few messages later.
Why not lock them and give a reference to the main thread?
Searching within these extremely long threads is also not easy, since you sometimes get lots of hits back (although I will try the power search some more from now on).
The Wikis can be useful, but often they are not up to date so you still need to search the threads. And even if they are, you still don't know if they are....


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