whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

the device is still unintuitive after all this time .... still no commercial application and I cannot really see any effort from nokia to put this device on top of the competition.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Nokia has confirmed it wont fix lots of bugs, other than that its the same thing. the only saving grace the device has is the dedicated community who have helped fix many of my issues.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Why can't we have one giant thread called "b*tchin' 'bout sh*t"?

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

that's the only reason I'n staying with n900. the community is so great most of the people are very very helpful. Ive never seen such this supportive community.

I honestly believe meego will never be implemented to n900. if its unofficially supported then that means even if we successfully ported meego to n900 then it still is not most efficient/os to work with n900. just imagine easy debian, android, mac os x, win 95, win vista ..... they're all slow and is not that efficient to use ... or call feature is missing.


the only major thing that happened to this device is this community helping each other to make the device as efficient as possible.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

i think you'll find the n900 was not launched in September and it did not start shipping until a few months later

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

1) people who are b*tchin' 'bout sh*t get told to buy an iPhone when actual what they are saying is: " this is the closest thing to the perfect device out there but how can it be that Nokia can get so much right yet still Screw up the basics!" what they are not saying is: "stop working on this its so bad it wont ever succeed". every complaint is a vote for improvement from someone who cares.
2) complaining is basically where you get to when things go bad and no one listens to you - complaining is effectively a feeble attempt to generate mutual support for a cause.
3) it is important to listen to and distill the complaints, and not react as i see to often here.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Maybe it's because they are desktop OSes. Just maybe.


And the android port is still a work in progress. Maybe if you helped or something, we could make phone calls

This is just ridiculous. dj_steve is working very hard to port Android to the n900. How many android devices have the 2.1 update? All you can do is sit on your bloody computer and b*tch about how you can't make calls yet. Maybe its because he is still working on it, i.e. it is not ****ING done.
Look at this. It is plenty fast. It is responsive. Let him finish his work before you dismiss it as "slow and is not that efficient"

Some of y'all on this forum are just impossible. Get a grip or something. Quit yer b*tchin'

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Maybe if we have all these complaints in one big fat thread, it could serve as a warning for potential buyers, eh?

That way potential buyers can make and "informed" decision and we don't have threads like this respawning every 5 mins.

We all win

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

There are so many improvements on the N900 since its inception that I think it would be difficult to list them all. But it's dumb to start listing them just before PR1.2 is released. Of course I'm assuming that you want to include all the changes the community has brought about, a huge number.

Edit: To be clear, every program written or enhanced for the N900 counts as an improvement. It's not that unusual for improvements for be made on individual programs practically every day (or more). Look at fMMS or Witter or the overclocking thread for examples. Try listing all of them, even.

You might want to forget software enhancements and just count something else. That would be completely blind to what is going on.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

That would be great!

Can you unwrap all the noise from around them and start distilling?

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I was an informed buyer only after making the purchase did i realize Nokia were selling me the device - they implied it had full PIM support and it was a computer - they were not openly saying teh phone and PIM function here are not yet on par with our other most basic OS the S40

This is the only computer i have used in the last 10 years that docent have a search function or an installable program with task distributions that can sync to outlook. Dont get me worn the the n900 is amassing, i just cant understand how it is so much of the basils can be overlooked. i want the n900 + skype + my Nokia 6100. (the 6100 being a 6 or 7 year old phone that can do more than my n900 when it comes to the PIM)

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

You are making my point for me.

Texrat, can this become a sticky with the title "B*tchin' goes here"

That way, if my fourth cousin wants to buy an n900, i can point him this way.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Whar???? at least get the title of the thread spelt right lol.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I'm in favor of such a thing, but I don't think the admin is.

Odds are this thread will get too noisy and wind up merged with another or closed.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

good point although i have tyred over
Here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47126
Here:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47130
and Here:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47134but i don't it dosent look like anyone is listening.

i'll be happy to distill once 1.2 is installed.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I think that "whar" is better than "where"! More colorful, and it's been used in comic books often enough.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

this is just ridiculous android for n900? android os is designed for phones that has hardware specifically designed for that OS. I do appreciate his efforts on this project but still thinks that before he made it perfect to work with n900, it would be ages and n900 is left behind by several devices out there.

you will notice that there are more and more devices coming out to proclaim theirs is the best phone/internet tablet. what I am trying to point out here is after 8months .... I cannot see any major improvements at all. at the moment we are still the best i browsing. but what i want to see is this tablet/phone competetive enough to be compared with android and other os. to be honest I think its only geeks that appreciates this phone much.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Yes but wont be very searchable on google unless you at least get the first word right.
This sounds like what could be a very good thread too !.
Whar should be What not where lol.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Android OS built specifically for the hardware? Pretty much the only hardware difference between the droid and the n900 is the screen, they have the same processor, similar qwerty keyboard and ram. The N900 should have no problem whatsoever running Android, except you wont be able to pinch to zoom.

I too have been flirting with the idea of ditching the n900 (and nokia after 10 years) and gettin a desire or incredible, but the community of maemo and what it can do is keeping me glued to the n900. If android gets ported, I wont even have to think about buying a new phone, if i get bored of Maemo I can switch to android and when I get bored of that I can switch back.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I actually think that Maemo is very intuitive... mind you, I've been around Maemo since OS2006 or so, so that's OS2006, 2007, 2008 (Maemo 4) and now Maemo5 - albeit different, they all seem rather intuitive to me.

Take the time to get into it. Who knows, you might like it. It's not as "easy" as my iPhone 3GS, nor is it easy like Android - both of those are very easy to get into, almost no learning curve... but that's about it.

Regardless... you should be more explicit about what you did and did not like. Who knows, other folks might be able to share tips that will enhance your experience.

And if you decide to sell it, lemme know. I'm looking for an inexpensive N900.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Jesus Christ! Can anyone on this forum say anything remotely critical/questioning about the N900 without fanboys jumping down their throat?

I would say that the most major development since the launch of the N900 has been the porting of Android to the device. Lets face it. android is a much more polished OS than Maemo. I don't know what Meego has in store for us, but I can't wait until/if the Android OS becomes usable on the N900.

Other than that, there hasn't been any earth-shattering developments or improvements imho.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Last I checked this was a forum for people who wanted to make use of what they had, not perpetually hear about people's problems with the device. Yes we know it's flawed. Yes we know Nokia does a bad job with managing their community interaction and service. Do we really need a constant, daily, and often rude reminder? After a while it gets old. Perhaps everyone with issues should start wiki pages documenting it instead of filling "Active Topics" with complaints?

Well, polished in one sense. In another, it's completely rotten in how it shoves you into a quasi-Java sandbox. Frankly, while Android may be more "polished," I explicitly moved to the N900 because it was -not- Android.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

hardware designed specifically for the OS?
what is the difference between the droid and n900 please?

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

i could care less about his opinion of the phone.

i do care that this thread has been done over and over and all similar thread should be merged.

if everyone posted about how great the n900 was, i'd feel the same way.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

If the threads annoy you so much then don't reply to them, it really is simple!

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

that's like saying "as long as you avoid deer on the road, your car won't get smashed up"
They're jumping infront of our headlights, how can we avoid that? :P

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Meh, people don't have to reply to any threads they don't want to..
IMHO, this is the main reason:

http://www.bpwrap.com/wp-content/duty_calls.png

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I can't be bothered to read the whole thread - can someone just let me know when PR 1.2 is coming out?

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

At the end of the month.

Which month? Well, that isn't clear, but I'm hoping this month.

I know my Kindle update is due this month, and I'm quite sure it will be released.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Is it? Wouldn't this imply that the complaints contain new information? Many people here seem to assume that by posting "I would have expected it to sync with Outlook", they're providing "important feedback" and should be thanked. Wrong.

Of course Nokia knows people expect full Outlook compatibility, as much as they expect MMS, video calls or voice commands. They know the N900 is not for those people, and it was never intended to be. Ari Jaaksi himself said this after the launch of the N900: "If you want our flagship smartphone, get the N97"

Telling Nokia that these are the things you miss on the N900 is like telling a catholic priest that you miss the gay porn shows in his church. He'll not think this is a useful feedback. He'll tell you that if you want to see gay porn, his church isn't the right place to go.

So if all of this whining isn't useful feedback for Nokia, why should it be of any interest to this community? Nokia could at least change something if they wanted, but nobody in this forum can. Why then, why on earth do people come here to "complain"?

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

I think angry users post here because people actually listen, whereas Nokia just stonewalls.I think that sites like this can have a megaphone effect -- enough people yell together and it wakes up the giant -- sometimes.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

It's actually not possible to say what improvements and developments are happening for the N900. Cause in my opinion it's a complete product.
Most probably what the author had in mind, is the developments in OS (mameo).

For me the most important things since September is:
1) I got the device
2) Installed Xournal, Conboy, Leafpad, Fm Radio, fMMS, kmplayer(+mplayer), WifiEye, Wizard Mounter, tickstill, omweather,GNumeric, (+more).

And now it does everything that I want.

The least important thing is the 30+ downloaded things from OVI.

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I see this product for what it is, and not for what it's not.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

what are you implying? the n900 syncs very well with Outlook and has one of the best media players out there. everyone can acsept MMS is coming it's just not finished. I agree there is probably not a phone out there that supports Skype video chat - so complaining about this is easy to identify as noise.

It is the little things like search, task descriptions and customizable calendar reminders (eg setting a reminder to go off 15hrs before an event rounds up to 24hrs on the n900 - a reminder is 11hrs off who can rely on a reminder that is 11hrs out?)

I don't agree with you when you imply the n900 is not targeting main stream consumers. check out this website by Nokia http://maemo.nokia.com/ its selling a consumer device not a development platform.

Re: whar are the major improvements and developments of n900 since it was launched last september 2009?
 

Hope they don't change it too much, this device is close to perfection - if you're a geek like me, or you knpw a geek like me to set it up for you :)

Problem is phone users with no linux experience who aren't wilingl to admit that to get the most out of the n900, you need to participate.