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fatalsaint 2010-05-16 05:01
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 660355)
So any mistakes (on PR1.2) will be propagated really quick to a big majority of their userbase. Something that shouldn't be lightly regarded... especially if the problem involves disabling of the device.
I didn't say "zero testing" ;). Test enough to be relatively sure no permanent damage is going to happen to the device.. and let it loose.

Yes, there will be bugs. Yes, people seem to forget that and they scream, loudly and obnoxiously I might add, and so yes - I'm pretty sure that's why Nokia does it this way; and as such: we get to wait 2+ months for fixes that every day make people more angry.

But this thread wanted my opinion.. and personally: I believe releasing early, having people report the bugs, and then fixing those bugs quickly is the way I would do it.

Yes, users are annoying and angry and don't usually report bugs in a very "meaningful" manner - but you aren't winning either way... people here aren't exactly quiet about the bugs that are already fixed and just not released, either.

gerbick 2010-05-16 05:14
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
I'd pick better, coherent support and an well spelled-out upgrade path.

fatalsaint 2010-05-16 05:42
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 660363)
I'd pick better, coherent support and an well spelled-out upgrade path.
No argument there. The ? around the future of the N900 is frustrating.

ysss 2010-05-16 05:55
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Going back to topic, I don't think the number of features are always directly proportional to the number of bugs.

Ergo, it's not less bugs vs more features.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-16 06:09
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 660353)
open wide, release early, release often. ;)

(Poll does not list my response)
That is the point.
Why accumulative bugfixes?
We all "update" appmanager several times a week.
Maemo.org members fixing his projects' bugs as soon as they can.
Nokia leaves buggy OS because they are debugging internal OS... no sense.
Fix a bunch of bugs, give it to us, and so on.
I only can realize they WERE NOT FIXING ANY BUG all this time.

Bundyo 2010-05-16 06:15
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Wrong thinking. "We" update often, but the majority probably not at all.

Stable release = less support = more time to prepare for the next release.

rpgAmazon 2010-05-16 06:23
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 660405)
Wrong thinking. "We" update often, but the majority probably not at all.

Stable release = less support = more time to prepare for the next release.
Sorry, I can't understand this (not trolling):
Do you think pr1.1.1 is stable so they have time preparing pr1.2?
I don't think so.
Anyway, after pr1.2, will be "next release" for us, do you think it?
Regards.

vkv.raju 2010-05-16 07:01
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
I voted "more features" coz with gadgets I like being on the edge...

jcompagner 2010-05-16 08:08
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
what is so buggy about the current PR1.1.1?
does the complete os crash/reboot a lot?
do the shipped apps (phone/web/mail) crash a lot?

not at my place, its pretty rock solid software wise, and i do install stuff from extra dev, i have overclocked it to 250-900, so i should be prime candidate for a instabile phone!

look there are quite some performance bugs, thats true even overclocked some things are just slow, modest opening inboxes and more stuff in modest. But also conversations opening the conversation of a new incomming sms why is that soooo slow with the cpu spiking?? it almost doesnt show anything on the screen!,

thats what i hope they fix first everything should be quick to respond, instant feedback. Profile, Profile, Profile....

cjard 2010-05-16 08:16
Re: Less Bugs Vs More Features... Which one do you guys want?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcompagner (Post 660480)
But also conversations opening the conversation of a new incomming sms why is that soooo slow with the cpu spiking?? it almost doesnt show anything on the screen!,
I'd like to know why the whole phone jams up for a few seconds when an SMS is received.. You can be typing away in a conversation and listening to music and then it locks, goes silent for a couple of seconds and then the yellow swooshing box appears and it releases.. Was it such a majorly intensive task to render the box?

On topic, I'd vote neither - for me the device doesnt have many bugs, other than the on screen keyboard being useless in the internal browser because it inserts text in a completely messed up order.. And it has most of the features I want out of a phone.. I find the bugs I do run into as annoying as the missing features I run into

I'd settle for Nokia being more interactive and vocal within the community, fewer questions of "why isnt this.." or "when will that.."


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