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Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by CrashandDie (Post 667675)

Oh sod off you plonker. You don't even know what you're talking about. Geneven complained about me, and nearly all my actions were reverted instantly. All of Geneven's bickering and moaning has always been listened to, even though he more than once was way out of line. I decided to quit because of idiots like Geneven, because they make the moderation in here quite impossible. They don't read your personal messages, they disregard the fact we could solve it in private, and goes and posts to the community council, in public, and is unable to keep two discussions going. So he starts spreading untruths, lies and miscommunication, blaming me and all the other moderators. Everything is still online, you can find it by searching for a bit (hint, it's in "community").

Actually, no. Reggie will most probably ignore you outright. Reggie even ignores the mods most of the time (he does read your stuff, just doesn't react very quickly nor often). It works. The moderators do their stuff, and Reggie comes in when he feels things are getting out of hand (locking the PR1.2 thread, for example).

Again, proof please? Nobody was *ever* banned for insulting mods, or telling they're doing a bad job. You have strictly no idea what you're talking about, just spreading fud. But guess what, nobody is silencing you...

Just as I was saying last night: It's so funny to see conspiracy theorists talk crap, saying they're being oppressed and such. You have so much freedom you wouldn't be able to recognise oppression were it to stare at you right in the face.

Again, there are no "incidents". Either you have things you wish to talk about, and you tell us about it, or you shut the hell up, and don't keep your own agenda. This community is about openness, and our moderators function in that way as well: however, we can't change the way we moderate unless we're told what are mistakes are.

Geneven, you're a smart bloke, do you really want to associate yourself with this troll?

WOW that was a heck of a rant and one i read with interest and as you got me in a good mood tonight i will reply fairly ok.
I cannot comment about Geneven directly as i have not read his posts to know enough if your right or wrong here but as for being a "plonker" lol we all have our moments in life trust me ha and as i only commented on a given situation of being ignored as he put it the comments i made were fair without flaming or swearing.
Moderating is a skill if used in the proper way has no rebounds or repercussions and ugly comments made against the mod as he will apply a no nonsence set of rules without getting directly or indirectly involved with that particular discussion and their is your problem because the biggest problem with moderating is you cannot have a mod who involves himself in adding comments of any nature as this always stirs up trouble so the only true effective way of moderating is indeed a silent one that never involves personal comments on any thread at all.
It is all too easy for people to take sides and usually go with the mod to get favouritism because there is interaction coming from the moderator directly by him adding comments leading people to automatically take the mods side in any event.
That situation is common place on this forum and is very much a fault that does need to be looked at and some guidence put in place for future problems such as your problem that lead to you resigning your services as a moderator.
Please at least try to read and understand what i am saying here as i do indeed have troubleshooting background knowledge and that does not make me a troll lol.
From my own personal feelings i dont actually agree with such "openess" on any community if it leads to the problems you got on this one from time to time and untill it is at least looked at indeed by all moderators with obvious input from admin then this is going to happen over and over on this community.
There is a time and a place to give instances and this is neithwr the place nor the time and as for Reggie becoming involved i think you answered your own comment if you read it again as the moderating problems are obviously an ongoing situation and i am sure at some point it will indeed be looked at by admin.
I am NOT a troll as my input to this community is fair untill problems start to happen and i have enough evidence of that for sure but as i said this is neither the time nor place for that.
My final comment to you is a fair one in that your job as a moderator is a hard and sometimes very difficult one simply because the issues incurred by the "openess" and interaction directly from mods is in fact inciting and provoking many cruel and uncalled for comments to be thrown about.
This is indeed a dog eat dog world we live in sometimes and some folk are and can be very cruel indeed especially when they are having to deal with a product that has not made the hype and feels a total let down.

Re: Model Moderation

You guys are so serious about the Internet.. :confused:

Never be serious about the Internet.

Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 667750)

wow! that was fair and sensible... okay who hacked abilluk's account these obviously aren't his words! ;)

Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 667750)

my input to this community

must have missed it. gonna go searching for it now. give me a hint. downloads? wiki? QA queue?

Re: Model Moderation

tl;dr^H^H^H^H^H... I'll get back to you shortly.

Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 667782)

tl;dr^H^H^H^H^H... I'll get back to you shortly.

stty erase ^H

Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 667772)

wow! that was fair and sensible... okay who hacked abilluk's account these obviously aren't his words! ;)

If people would only be fair and non aggresive or insulting in their comments then you will get the true me but i have to admit on this community there is a lot of ugly comments thrown even at me and that does throw people right off track.
If you want a fair comment thrown back then leave one in the first place, maybe i am a bit old in the tooth as i am probably older than most on here but dont expect me to be fair when people are just being down right nasty.

Re: Model Moderation

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 667750)

Moderating is a skill if used in the proper way has no rebounds or repercussions and ugly comments made against the mod as he will apply a no nonsence set of rules without getting directly or indirectly involved with that particular discussion and their is your problem because the biggest problem with moderating is you cannot have a mod who involves himself in adding comments of any nature as this always stirs up trouble so the only true effective way of moderating is indeed a silent one that never involves personal comments on any thread at all.

I'd say that was a complete load of crap, but then, that would just make your point, wouldn't it.

If moderators were ALL silent here, and none enagaged anyone else, that would just be another thing for posters to complain about. Only instead of an extremist handful of 3 or 4 who are never happy, it would be the majority complaining. And rightfully so. Because moderation is NOT just about stealthy edits, deletes and bannings-- in fact, you might be well-served by looking up the definition of the word to see what it truly means in this context.

Now, back to your regularly-scheduled ranting.

Re: Model Moderation

Wow!

Is this thread still going?

Can't we all agree to disagree and be friends.

We can then hand-in-hand run through the fields of wildebeasts majestically migrating through the plains of Africa and say...

"Maybe we should join a less radical group who have more moderate views?"
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(e.g. Church of Scientology)

Re: Model Moderation