Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Great point....as I'm just a code noob....

I just built a 'Hello World!" app, can I enter that in the noob category????

;)

That would be greatly appreciated!....then I can proceed to the next level and make an interactive, multimedia 'Hello World' app!!!

:cool:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Interactive multimedia Hello World might be quite good, enter it anyway :cool:

Alright.. you all wanted it. Pleaded for it. Begged on your knees for it! Ok.. nobody really wanted it but the first fart app for the N900 is here! :D

Build a simple Fart App in 30 Mins! N900, PyQt

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...528-230425.png

It's a simple tutorial I made, it's not the greatest ever but it might be useful for those who want to learn more about Qt and using Phonon for sound playback and.. farts. Farting in general. It's meant to carry on from the previous beginner tutorials, so visit those first (MikeCs and FatalSaints "Windows.. 30 mins" stickied thread.

I feel so unclean.. *runs off to take a shower*

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Nice Kojacker, thankyou. :)

Could you try youself a other audio example? :o

I asked 4 days ago here for help to get a signal from the microphone. Could you please try to help and look into it?

In my opinon I have a great Idea for a really nice project. But, I'm only a python and Qt beginner. So I guess the skill level for the core element of my application is to hight for me. :(

I need "only" every 20 to 100ms the sound level (noise) of the microphone. A spectrum would be even better, but I don't need it. Here is a C++ expample how it should also work at the N900: Link
I have all other needed parts or know how to do.

If it is impossible to do something like this in python, could someone please provide me a Library that could do the trick for me? :rolleyes:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I think bigger prizes get the attention of more professional developers and it's more scary for the beginners. While there were only smaller prizes, professionals were probably working on other things, but now they'll squeeze in time to work on some project for the competition, because it's worth their time.

Good ideas go long way to win a competition like this, but it needs to be implemented equally well, where pros have an advantage.
It's probably as with other competitions. Bigger prizes attract more pros and less beginners. Beginners don't think they can win so why bother.

In this competition it's good that the community will decide on the winners, which means more exposure for every application. On competitions where a small number of people decides, only the top applications get exposure while the others stay buried at the bottom.

I wanted to write my app for a while now, and this was a good motivation to get me started.

I don't think I can win, and all I'm hopping to get is the experience, from writing the app, and the extended exposure. Probably this way my app can get a bigger user base then if I released it outside of the competition.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

It's done! :cool:

Btw, I hope you are helping participants with uploading the code and such :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I think there need to be more guides that do not expect you to do some thinking on your own(trolltech guides can be hard). This is my first qt program I write, even my first c++ program and I have had some problems with guides that expect you to understand a bit but you don't. I think that a lot of the problem I have been struggling have been the enviroment and a lot of that have been fixed in the new SDK. Before that I had big problems with compiling etc so I never wrote more then 10 lines of code.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Hi helex, I noticed your post and hoped somebody would have helped you out. Your skills are far beyond mine at this time, hence Im building fart apps whilst you're hiding your ideas from Steve Jobbs :p

I don't know anything about QtMobility tbh, are you using it to receive the sound or does it do other stuff like calculate the levels for you? If it's just to take in the noise, perhaps you check to see if pymedia can be used on the n900 to record noise from the microphone? It might be possible to bypass QtMultimedia altogether :confused:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I must admit, I had the same thoughts. Personally I dont find Qt very good, added to that I'm a Java programmer and stayed away from C++ all my life. So Qt is not a favorite option for me. What I did was turn to Python, using the best bit of Qt, the Qt Designer, only for the application GUI and then finishing the application by using Python as the implementation language - PyQt is Python bindings for the C++ Qt modules and methods so I can do all the same stuff but it's much easier to get started imo :) You also have other packages such as PyGame for, as the name suggests, more gaming related applications. You can find out more about pymaemo at the wiki http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo, also the tutorial link in the first post goes through the environment setup for working with Qt and Python - it's very good imo.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Hmmm.......your tutorial has given me new ideas for my 'totally interactive multimedia Hello World' app...... ;)

Thanks for doing this kojacker. Excellent!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I join the contest. I'm currently developing the Advanced Geocaching Tool for the N900 and for this contest, I plan a whole bunch of new features, some of which are quiet innovative and all of which are very useful for geocaching.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I know I'm a bit late in responding here but hey can't be checking the thread every two minutes, I'm busy developing for the contest!

Anyways, in response to:
As the lead developer on Flip, just wanted to point out that while the project "officially" started in 2008, it's been a LONG road since then and there was a lot of downtime in between. Ciro had officially started it, built some of it up in python... then I got on board, helped him out for a few months and got some actual functionality going on... then we left it alone for about 8-10 months (the old "get it working so it doesn't crash every 5 minutes, and call it "done enough for me" mentality!). Then we started to rebuild the entire project from scratch in C to make it more stable/reliable/faster... which took many months... everything got changed around, new features, different way of doing things, etc. Big long wish list of things came up, of which we had maybe 30% done... then the N900 came out, and a whole whack of things didn't work so I basically gave up on it for a few months. Finally in the last two months I got Spenc3 on board to help with the N900 specific code, and we've been doing a lot of backend playing around, but not actual updates/major changes.

This competition is acting as motivation to help us take that "playing around' and apply it to make an "end user ready" application. Whether that counts as being good enough to be worth a bounty or not, that's up to the community ppl to decide, but in my mind it makes perfect sense for the goal of this contest which was to get more apps out there for N900 users. Getting new developers onboard is awesome too, but I think the content should be helping to push both goals.

(And you know, competition or not... if anyone including "the direct competitors" need some coding help or API assistance/etc... especially with that ellusive AlarmD interface... we're more than happy to share what we know and help out! The whole point isn't to get the reward, it's to help build the devel community!)

And one more point... Spenc3 and I are working on a few different apps, so yea we might have a bit more coding background/experience, but we're also trying to help push more apps out there because of it!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Would spend 5$.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I join the competition. I'm developing my first N900 and Qt application by Python. The application runs in the background and records GPRS traffic counters and there is UI which shows hourly, daily, weekly and monthly traffics. I guess this goes to category "2. System & Utilities".

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I have submitted my first app. More useless than the fart app. It is called Old School, and you can read more about it in this thread (or just find it in the Desktop category of Extras-Devel). It is a Python app (PyQt), and I am hoping to write up a short primer on packaging a Python app so that others don't have to spend the two days I spent googling, downloading, testing, and struggling (and so people who actually know how to do it can correct me as well).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Oh,

I'd like to pay $10 to get groups in contacts.. ! :) (ringtone per group, group sms and stuff like that)

Anyone working on that?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

That's the spirit! Remind me to buy you a beer if we ever meet.

A quick AlarmD howto in the wiki would be wonderful to see. Some alarm functionality is in my plan as well, but I probably won't get to that feature within the next 2 months.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Great to see things moving on, plus we're well over 2000 views on the wiki :cool:

Are you offering a donation for the prize fund? If so it would be very welcome! :) We're still (yes, still!) getting the paypal situation sorted but let me know if you're happy to pledge that $5 and we'll add you to the list :)

Welcome aboard JereM, that sounds like a pretty interesting application :cool: If you have a spare moment, add yourself to the participants section of the Wiki page so we can keep track of your progress :) If you;re not sure how, let us know what details you want entered and someone will add you on there.

Haha! Awesome, I seen it in the other thread and thought it's somewhere between genius and insanity.. Im not sure where yet :p Good job!

And a short primer on packaging would be brilliant, I must admit there will probably be bumps in the next few weeks and packaging could be one of them. I've heard it can be a bit confusing at the beginning, Im sure a tutorial would help a lot!

Im not sure if anyone is working on that, but maybe someone will spot your offer :) Brainstorm or similar might be better sections to get more notice though..

I hadn't heard of AlarmD until your post, I thought it was an application... seems to be an alternative to cron. Might be more info in this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46594

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

ooo i wish qtmobility/multimedia was half decent lol - still might have time to get an entry in :P

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

You better!!! :mad:

There seems a be more than a few issues with those, Im not sure they are near ready for the limelight yet :( For QtMultimedia issues, can it be replaced with pymedia.. somehow? :confused: I wonder how helex is getting on with using it, I hope he got over his stumbling block.. sounds like he has an interesting idea if it works

Edit: nevermind, I see you're helping each other out and he's having a look at GStreamer. If I remember right, the recorder app uses GStreamer. If it's just to get sound data in then it might do alright.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

What languages can be used to make a program on a N900? :) Im use to .NET, C, etc but not sure those can run on the N900.

Can we choose between the trip and the N900?

Can we donate a cent? (serious question)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

C++ and Python would be the two most common languages used for n900 development, Qt is the GUI framework and Nokia offer a Qt SDK as a free download (a little like Visual Studio) and is targeted at c++ programming, however Python bindings exist (the PyQt project) to do the same thing for those who would prefer to use Python. Have a look around the development wiki for more in-depth advice on that.

I'd imagine so. Qgil said it was an alternative for those who cant make it, well if you don't want to go then I guess you can't make it.. Nokia can't push you on a plane :) Once it gets to that stage and the contest has ended, it'll be between Maemo/Nokia (representative(s)) and the winner to sort out what they want to do and the specifics.

lol hmmm ok, well I guess that's up to paypal, though it might cost you more in fees. Im not sure what the minimum transaction amount is with paypal tbh.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

there shouldn't be any paypal fees if the donation is marked as such.
that was the problem with the ChpIn site. they marked the donations as payments...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Speaking of paypal..

I'll send another pm to Randy to see if there's any update on the maemo.org paypal. I suspect there won't be, but best to get the current position.

Im kinda worried about harassing Randy with too many pm's, im sure he'll be sick of hearing from us :p It is time we started turning pledges into donations though, so it's got to be done :)

Edit: pm sent

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Too bad I cant use VB .NET or C....
Guess I cant enter.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Perhaps you could use it as a reason to develop your language portfolio? I mean, several of us entering the competition are absolute beginners so you wouldn't be alone, it's a learning experience. Indeed I myself have been Java only most of my life and have started learning Python because of the n900. Nobody expects you to start writing world beating apps overnight, I hope you'll still consider getting involved :)

And if you still feel it's too early to write something for this friendly competition, I hope you'll take the opportunity to learn a bit more about developing for the n900. You have good programming experience already, you might find it more straight forward than you think :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Tried and too confusing to make a msgbox (.NET refrence) from a button.

I really have no "want" in developing for a platform I dont even have.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I sent a mail to Quim some days ago about the community PayPal account. No answer.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

This competition is a fab idea, I wish everyone involved the best of luck with it. I'd like to chip in with £20 towards the prize fund.

I'd also like to contribute an application. I'll try and think of something over the next few days and post back.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Awesome! Thanks for the donation pledge amh, according to google £20 works out to be $28.9036. As the pledge list is in dollars, I'll add it on the list with the others as $28 :)

I'll look forward to hearing more on the application you'll be making, add yourself to the participants list on the wiki when you're ready (I just completely ignored the "I'll try" bit, Im sure you'll think of something ;))

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

By the way, we're up to $393 of prize fund pledges! So far! :cool:

C'mon, who wants to bring us up to a magic $400.. :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Ok, I'll do it. $10 from me. :-)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

"And then a hero comes alooooonnng..."

Brill! Thanks DanielW, much obliged to you good sir! :)

$403 now, who reckons we'll end up breaking the $500 mark :D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

still no solution in the paypal case?
texrat, what's up with your old community account?
we have to solve this asap..

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

?? Didn't read through all the latest posts but you can code in C for N900, no problem. That's what all of my apps are written in. I think the confusion is with everyone jumping on the QT bandwagon and thinking that's the only thing that exists.... yea QT is cool in concept and things, but there are plenty of alternatives for the here and now...

I'm pretty sure there's got to be QT bindings for C as well for the record.. I don't know for sure, but if there are python bindings, there's probably C bindings too...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I guess I have a good Idea for a new application. But I'm myself unable to handle it.

What about creating a configurable Sharing Plug-in for the Image Application?

The purpose of this application is to open a choicable external Application with the path of the currently viewed image.
It should be simple to create it with good C++ knowledge. I guess you can find everything what is needed here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...ug-in_Creation

I often had the wish to open a image in a external editor. At example to open a photo in MyPaint. :rolleyes:

Then we only need to persuade the MyPaint developer to make this command in the shell working with his application: mypaint %1

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Right, registered I think......Better get developing.

If anyone wants to see the app, check out the ParcelGenie app on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn......Hopefully I will end up with something similar!!!!!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

I added a new Idea to the wishlist:

A tool to edit /etc/xdg/menus/hildon.menu and add Folders to the Application Menu.

See here how it works: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37874

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Please see my post on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=708374.
I would like to write something like iPhones SleepCycle.
This would be a bigger project and hopefully involve also other people.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

take a look at SleepPy (my latest video is about that).
but I could help help you with my sleeping data anyway... ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] The First N900 Coding Competition! 21st May-21st July. Open to all!
 

Oh great - as always I'm late... ;)

I'd still like to give it a try, even if it means getting used to C++ again (holy... it's been like a decade), learning maemo-integration and doing the actual coding in 6 days (which is all that remains of my spare time until the deadline :D).

I already have an idea for a game of variable complexity that I would have written, anyway - and with this competition at least I have a good incentive not to stall development for years. :P

On a side note: I literally drooled at the prospect of going to the conference, even if the chances are really slim. Feeling all powered up!