maemo.org - Talk - Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

format wars....years ago we would have been screaming for quicktime to watch web based video, today flash seems to be winning, for now, yes some hate it but is it not more frustrating coming to a site that tells you your version is out of date yet there is no update available.
Yes newer formats are coming but if the support for the N900 from Nokia is waining after 6 months, then all we can look forward to is a shrinking web and more web site compatibility issues.
Should it not be adobe's responsibility having pushed this technology as far as they have to produce versoins for all the different OS's.

ndi	2010-05-30 14:13

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

Format wars happen between roughly equivalent formats.

HTML5 is wider, better, open. This more like a format execution IMO. Flash was fine when it was the only way to easily do fancy sites. This will change. As always, a few major sites will keep it going for a while and, as always, when a major enterprise switches, because of costs, the white flag will wave.

Besides, we, the users, will benefit from format wars in the end.

extendedping

2010-05-30 14:25

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

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Originally Posted by resplendent2209 (Post 673538)

I don't understand why they're launching it worldwide.

may be Nokia has some real good plans for N900 in the future :) or else they would have limited N900 to some regions just like the old Nokia Internet Tablets.

cause they have a crapload sitting in a warehouse unsold?

joppu

2010-05-30 14:34

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

Uh-uh. The Flash 10.1 is becoming the new PR1.2.

talk.maemo.org is nowadays descended into a playground of childish people with everything-to-me-right-now mentality. All these threads are making me sad. Wasn't this supposed to be a phone for developers and enthusiasts not some whiney kids?

blackopz

2010-05-30 14:54

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

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Originally Posted by ndi (Post 683605)

So, instead of using a more stable, universal flash version, you moved to the bleeding edge and then complain?

Don't want to poke at you, really, but as a developer, I NEVER, EVER use the latest release of a development tool or platform other than beta testing. To me, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" isn't a good idea, it's a requirement for keeping my job. I still have Delphi 5 installed (10th August 1999) and FoxPro 2.5 for DOS(Jan. 1993), just in case my shiny Delphi Architect 2010 has some showstopper bug. I also have a few in-between versions, like Foxpro, for example, 2.5, 2.6, 5, 6, 8 and 9. And I fall back as needed to keep things working.

Again I wonder exactly what magical dust 10.1 has inside that makes it a requirement. What possible support has been added that makes everyone push to the bleeding edge?

I know that the comparison isn't exactly 100% correct, because you run in the client's Flash, not directly on the platform, but isn't that an even better reason to hold back?

Who upgrades a site from a 90% user base to a 5% user base?

Maybe I'm just getting old fashioned. Man, 30 hits hard.

Isn't the whole issue that Adobe Flash should be backwards compatable?

PradaBrada

2010-05-30 19:09

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

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Originally Posted by resplendent2209 (Post 673538)

Keep on dreaming fella, one day you will ride that unicorn

leetut

2010-05-31 13:50

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

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Originally Posted by Sadavyk (Post 673699)

I find it funny how some folks still think the n900 is mind blowing?
I did maybe a few months back, can someone tell me how the F..k! is apple's I-phone 3gs video recording so much smoother than all nokia video capable devices? nokia been doing device for how long? I did love nokia and symbian but today with so much other devices to choose from! why wait for them to fix shyt that should of been done before hitting the stores, If by Friday no up date for flash 10.1 I will sell all my nokia devices PM me and I'll send you a list of my prices. And if the 4th gen I-phone make video calling the new thing and I mean we all know nokia N-devices are very capable of doing this; but like we can see by the title of this trend to much un done devices and slow as hell updateds and this the only place you can find support maemo5 what a joke is full of tech no A holes not all of you but you A-holes know who you are..

bro ill buy all your nokia devices, if there as bad as you say they are they must not be worth much then, salesmen usually tell people their products are great to get a good price, not the other way around

UNderworld

2010-05-31 14:03

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

this thing (phone or tablet) was famous when it came out for being the only phone with full flash...

now what? down the drains again..

Nokia has totally lost it... its surviving only because of its well established name

Bec	2010-05-31 17:45

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 668091)

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I heard from a top Maemo guy that Flash 10 is not coming to the N900. It will be on the next device. So stop waiting.

So then it's coming when the next device is coming. On an open system no one stops you or our beloved devs to port it. And from linux to linux it's almost copy-paste ;)

Second, only the nexus one has 10.1 and it's the beta.

Be happy with your next android which might not even get support/updates at all or certainly after long months after google releases them. N'joy:D:D:D

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