Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

yes. that why developer and consumer also suffer the situation to get what they paid for. seem nokia have much time for meego, i don't see any reason why nokia can't make it, yet meego will get the driver for it.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

Dominick, perhaps. However, I think our community will be stronger if Nokia increases sales. More N900 users = more value to developers. I would rather not see N900 owners migrate to another platform.

I realize that there are some that troll and abuse these forums, but some of the requests are valid. I think people are calling out for Nokia to listen to them. Nokia would do well to listen and respond.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

lets hope this works out if no 10.1
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/06...sh-video-usin/

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

Motorola Q got an Flash Lite update - from Flash Lite 2.1 to 3.0. As did other WinMo phones up to a point. But it's Adobe's move to where Flash Lite and the Flash Player (full blown) are converging to have some parity - it's almost a moot point to bring up who before.

It's all about who will now. And so far, no Nokia phone has. And yet, on the Nexus One, I can beta 10.1. Other Android phones will soon be able to do it too - not all, initially.

But it doesn't answer my question. Which Nokia phones have ever received an Adobe Flash update? It's not a loaded question, I'm honestly curious because it seems to be a few vendors that aren't doing the updates when they very well might be able to update.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

I'm pretty certain the N95 was a Flash Lite 2 phone that got Flash Lite 3 in an upgrade along the way, if that means anything to you. I was not following phones that much in 2006/2007 so can't recall the status of other models.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

For as far as i have read flash 10 needs atleast 800 mhz of computing power... so thats why its not comming! the n900 is far to slow to keep up with the new technologies.

Lol we have apps for everything nokia ignores to fix. im fed up with it. I allready signed in to get a notification when the iphone 4 will be available. its very closed source but the quality of that thing! and the support its getting is beyond the power of every other mobile phone manufacturer.

One more slogan wich made me smile and thought they are 100% right about that one:

this thing is just 3 mm thicker then the upper part of the n900 and yet all these new features and amzing battery improvements. you cant ignore that! With this device apple is going to kill all other competition at once!

Looking at the n8 wich can make HD video... nice... but its on a crappy 680 mhz processor and with only 1200 mah battery. this new phone is gonna suck even harder then before.

Because nokia makes 100 models a year they arent seeing the point anymore. people want better quality devices with superb support. and what are we getting with the n900. indeed! nothing! we need to ask the community to please make a fix for it because nokia is too busy making 99 other phones wich are half finished. With putting their effort in making phones instead of supporting them they are scaring of the few remaining customers who want to believe that with the next model its gonna change... but believe me, it wont!

Well have a good one with your n900 i wont be using mine anymore after the i4 is comming

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

Where does it say that?

It seems to work on S60 and Flash 10 works fine on 550 MHz. Additionally, wasn't it supposed to take advantage of hardware so N900 can put that video chip to work?

And finally, N900 can be overclocked for the performance difference should the worst come to pass. People have been running N900 at 950 IIRC.

Oh, one more thing: What is 800 MHz worth of "computing power"? On what platform? With what hardware? What OS? What about acceleration? E.g., my home PC plays full HD while loading the CPU around 2% (that's 40 MHz of computing power), because it implements DXVA through a dual video card. A decoding chip would throw that out the window. One should not compare the hertz so easily.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

It's a troll!!

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

The Skyfire browser on the N900 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...t=skyfire+hulu If we sign up and ask for it on the forum site maybe they will comply. This browser should let us have flash 10 without straining the N900 so much, as the content is streamed. http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-08/...obile-devices/ They have it for Android now.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t00f...ayer_embedded#

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

I love my N900. Think it still beats out the new, upcoming iPhone 4, except in size. iPhone = no flash at all, ever. N900 = room to grow, iPhone = you get what Apple says is good for you.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

I am with you :)

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

leaving nokia for life if no flash 10.1? okay bye bye guess we will see you in few years

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

My English is rubbish, I know that, but I double checked English dictionary. And there is big difference between "recommended", "minimum" and "at least" ;).

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

I must say though. Apple's Hitler-ness is sometimes for good cause. I was watching this keynote where he was talking about no private APIs to prevent apps from breaking. That sounded actually reasonable.

Everytime a new Maemo came out, you had to re-package the apps all over again. Paaaaain. Hell, between upgrades of the Same Maemo 5 I've had many apps that broke on me.

Flash wins on the n900. But leaving out the 720p video capture and faster processor as a positive on the iPhone is unfair.

so it really comes down to the consumer's choice.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

Yes I'm having it on my GF N97. Works over wi-fi with noticeable quality los. For flash games.. respond time is not acceptable. Over 3GP useless. It's good way around to watch the movie content. But again, network vs computing power.
But this is nothing else like stream tube. I have tones of data collected on Flaemo and I can even tell you what machines they using on the server side to render the content ;). The funny thing is they streaming far to big content regarding to your mobile device screen. At least you can remotely connect to your PC/MAC from N900, and will get much more than skyfire. I would rather prefer this way, that someone here could improve/develop remote desktop solution. The 2 I know are limited and restricted to much :(

BTW: Try to explain to Vodafone users in UK that why instead of loading 50kb swf file they need to constantly steam it via network ;)

Try to improve Operators infrastructure as well...

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

At the end flash will die out... its a lost project anyway.

Nokia promised us the web with the n900, but half of the content is not supported.

Flash is stuttering and video isnt playing how its supposed too. the n900 is too glitchy and slow to keep up with the new features. And all nokia is saying sorry we are not going to support that. (to busy making a new phone)

Why should there be thousands of work arounds on the n900?? why isn't it "just working"?

Maybe a far more interesting question would be, will n900 have full HTML5 support? Youtube is allready starting to stream its video's on HTML5 if you choose for it.

I think youtube is one of the biggest out there that uses flash and even they are getting rid of flash eventually...

There is a 1% chance that nokia allready saw this comming and instead of supporting the CPU and battery hungry flash they choose to support HTML5. Or maybe they dont give a damn about us and wont support any future platforms.... i think ill go with the last one on this.

Instead of making software to support new features, nokia makes a new phone that supports part of it. "oh you want full support? well in a few months a new phone will come supporting this. It only costs 600 dollars"

People are not gonna buy new phones every 3 months. they want descent support for atleast the 2 years they gonna use this phone.

Its always the same with nokia. and thats why this was my last one... im really sorry to say.. but i lost faith in nokia after the 3rd stab in the back.

Maybe they better start making rubber and paper again...

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

The n900 will definitely support HTML5 videos via Firefox Mobile in the future.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

sygys,
That´s lame. Try harder! Really. More generalizations and out of blue statistics please.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

No, the problem is not the N900, but that the Flash-Plugin is NOT hardware accelerated. And that's why we expect Nokia to "give us" 10.1 - because it will be hardware-accelerated on mobile platforms, too.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

lol - when it comes down to it the only "excuse" thats realistic is Nokia doesnt want to spend the $$$ because they think doing so will not generate a good return. I dont buy the n900 doesnt fulfil hardware requirements of flash 10, thats just a furphy.

i.e. they dont give a **** because they think n900 users will forgive and forget and fall for it again next time again

based on n7xx and n8xx, maybe thats not a bad call.

Re: Leaving Nokia for life if no Flash 10.1 for N900
 

There are quite a few reasons to leave nokia. no flash 10.1 is not one of them. They are giving zero support for maemo. Sadly, it is a naive expectation.