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-   -   Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900 (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53541)

Stskeeps 2010-05-26 07:16
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 678186)
Look at this comment on this website



The Cliq is fairly new
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I contacted T-Mobile today (2/10/2010) and they indicated that Cliq will NOT be getting an Android 2.1 update. I called a few T-Mobile stores to confirms with and half said it was and half said it wasn't. The ones that said it wasn't said they can't update the Cliq do to an equipment problem (specifically, the indicated a lack of a dual core processor). Is anyone else getting similar info?
The excuses are really getting worse aren't they? No android 2.1 -because of no dual core processor-, wtf? :P

qgil 2010-05-26 07:21
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 678105)
So; when you say MeeGo-Harmattan CE.. are we talking deb based? A port directly from what sources we do get from Nokia when more software is released?
This. Otherwise how would you be able to download and install whatever apps are there for the official MeeGo-Harmattan platform?

qgil 2010-05-26 07:39
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by Vinh (Post 678088)
Oh, the Pentium II 350 Mhz computer that I mentioned in my post? It's running openSuSE 11.2, the latest release.
Let's put the right context on this comment:

- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.

- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.

- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?

- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.

nosa101 2010-05-26 07:41
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by Vinh (Post 678256)
So the N900 and the Cliq are being treated the same. I'm sure that makes N900 owners feel better.

What are fair support expectations for a smartphone like the Cliq? For a GNU/Linux computer like the N900? Six months? 1 year? 2 years?
You miss the point.

He said Android devices don't get abandoned. I think Cliq owners expect support throughout the length of their contracts

Vinh 2010-05-26 07:51
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 678204)
The excuses are really getting worse aren't they? No android 2.1 -because of no dual core processor-, wtf? :P
Um... I actually read the website and it says that the Cliq will be getting Android 2.1 and Flash. The quote that was pulled was from a user who had called several T-mobile stores and got mixed answers, half saying "yes", half saying "no".

I don't know if the Cliq users actually got their update yet, but Motorola has Android 2.1 listed for Q2 2010:

http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news...cliq-and-dext/

silvermountain 2010-05-26 07:53
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 678264)
Let's put the right context on this comment:

- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.

- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.

- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?

- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
Uh........what....?

nosa101 2010-05-26 08:00
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by Vinh (Post 678312)
Um... I actually read the website and it says that the Cliq will be getting Android 2.1 and Flash. The quote that was pulled was from a user who had called several T-mobile stores and got mixed answers, half saying "yes", half saying "no".

I don't know if the Cliq users actually got their update yet, but Motorola has Android 2.1 listed for Q2 2010:

http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news...cliq-and-dext/
There's no update for the Cliq yet and we are passed the Q2 mid point. Froyo is out and plans for bringing it to the Cliq aren't even detailed.

Motorola doesn't even know when the Droid is getting Froyo.

qgil 2010-05-26 08:06
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 678203)
The biggest specific concern is that of technologies like QML and DirectUI/Orbit, or rather, will the same situation as for Java reappear, where one has to target lowest-common denominators which are usually at that point almost semi-deprecated. Synchronized platform releases could help this.
QML = Qt 4.7

DirectUI (now MeeGo Touch) and Orbit are not part of the Qt roadmap and don't offer currently any cross-platform compatibility.

Qt + Qt Mobility APIs + Qt SDK are at the peak of the MeeGo developer offering. Following the Qt development, roadmap and speed of releases there is nothing I would call low or semi-deprecated. It actually looks like fast moving to my eyes.

If you want to even go faster, at the expense of cross-compatibility, then you can have a look at these frameworks on top of Qt before they are assimilated by the official Qt API. Up to you.

gerbick 2010-05-26 08:13
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 678264)
Let's put the right context on this comment:

- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.

- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.

- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?

- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
Or... he could have built his own PC thus no OS, something that cannot apply to the 770 or any Nokia product at all honestly.

As it stands, the continued support, updates and application development for prior Maemo iterations seem to stop after a few updates. How many more updates are planned for the N900 under the current Maemo 5 platform? Some, none, many?

What will be missing from the MeeGo Community Edition that the MeeGo actual edition (the one that is planned for another device) in regards to the N900?

Vinh 2010-05-26 08:18
Re: Official: No (commercial) MeeGo for the N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 678264)
Let's put the right context on this comment:

- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.

- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.

- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?

- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
I would contend that the N770 has the same /base/ user experience as the N800, N810 and N900, though much slower. OS 2007 and OS 2008 did get backported, though not in an official manner, so they were left in a broken, "use at your own risk", state. The remaining community didn't have the expertise to follow-up, nor could they with the closed portions of the OS. The ports proved that the N770 was just as capable at running the OS.

As for my PC...

I bought the PC "blank"; that is, it was assembled from newly purchased parts. The first OS I installed on it was RedHat 5.0, mainly because it came in shrinkwrap form. When RedHat stopped shrinkwrap, I switched to SuSE shrinkwrap. I didn't have the bandwidth with a 56K modem to download a whole distro DVD. These days, I do.

I would say my user experience on the same /old/ hardware has improved quite a bit from RedHat 5.0 to openSuSE 11.2, even though I'm essentially still using a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.

I suppose my upgrade mentality comes from expectations of open source on a PC. I bought the N770 with the same ideas of open source on an internet tablet.


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