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wmarone 2010-05-28 00:10
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
MeeGo-Harmattan is going to be the bastard child of MeeGo Handheld UX and the existing Maemo back-end, as I understand it. Personally it's horribly confusing, and I'd just as soon ignore it when talking about MeeGo, since it's not -part- of MeeGo.

The MeeGo Handheld UX coming later will go on top of the MeeGo core that currently has only a console.

fatalsaint 2010-05-28 00:11
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684358)
I think I understand so you're saying MeeGo 1.0 for Netbooks has a UX layer but MeeGo 1.0 for N900 does not, and MeeGo-Harmattan is the UX layer (1.1) that will eventually go on terminal only MeeGo 1.0 for N900. And that the MeeGo core is the same in both instances.
I believe so. As far as the MeeGo core is the same in the CLI only MeeGo 1.0 for N900 and the Netbook one.

The MeeGo core will not be in MeeGo-Harmattan.

The one thing I'm not 100% sure about is the UI/UX. MeeGo-Harmattan may have a different UI than MeeGo for N900.. it may be a Nokia-only one.

I do believe the MeeGo-Harmattan UI is already in the open at git.. but I haven't seen anything running or anyone working with it (as in screenshots or anything). The true MeeGo UX for the N900 will be released next month (June) for devs.. and hopes to be stable by MeeGo 1.1.

The only reason I say they may be similar is that both the MeeGo-Harmattan device is due around the same time the MeeGo 1.1 is supposed to be stable; so I was somewhat thinking the UI/UX's are going to be related somehow. Both, at the least, should be QT based.

geohsia 2010-05-28 00:30
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 684366)
The MeeGo core will not be in MeeGo-Harmattan.
There will be 2 versions of MeeGo on the N900? MeeGo 1.0 and Meego / Harmattan?

Quote:
The only reason I say they may be similar is that both the MeeGo-Harmattan device is due around the same time the MeeGo 1.1 is supposed to be stable; so I was somewhat thinking the UI/UX's are going to be related somehow. Both, at the least, should be QT based.
I thought they were the same. I didn't there were 2 versions of MeeGo that could run on the N900, or are you saying that MeeGo-Harmattan isn't going to run on the N900 in any scenario.

wmarone 2010-05-28 00:34
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684398)
]I thought they were the same. I didn't there were 2 versions of MeeGo that could run on the N900, or are you saying that MeeGo-Harmattan isn't going to run on the N900 in any scenario.
If you're interested in MeeGo proper, ignore MeeGo-Harmattan. Just wipe it from your mind. I don't see any community build coming from it, and don't know what the logic is behind it.

There is only MeeGo. And Zuul. wait...

geohsia 2010-05-28 00:37
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 684402)
If you're interested in MeeGo proper, ignore MeeGo-Harmattan. Just wipe it from your mind. I don't see any community build coming from it, and don't know what the logic is behind it.

There is only MeeGo. And Zuul. wait...
See, that's what I'm asking. I thought MeeGo 1.0 for N900 was Harmattan but I'm being told it's MeeGo proper. It's Harmattan right?

fatalsaint 2010-05-28 00:40
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684409)
See, that's what I'm asking. I thought MeeGo 1.0 for N900 was Harmattan but I'm being told it's MeeGo proper. It's Harmattan right?
No.

Seriously.. wipe your mind of everything you know. We need to start fresh.

There is two operating systems. Harmattan, think of it as a Maemo 6, and MeeGo - think of it as.. MeeGo.

Harmattan will be on the next device. This device will be compatible with MeeGo, but it is not MeeGo.

The N900 is the development platform for MeeGo. There will be (and is) MeeGo ports for the N900.

Harmattan has, at this point, nothing to do at all in any fashion way shape form or transparent mist with the N900. There is, however, a thread started by qgil about working on a Community Hacker Edition of Harmattan to run on the N900.

geohsia 2010-05-28 00:48
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
OK, brain wiped...:eek:

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 684418)
Harmattan will be on the next device. This device will be compatible with MeeGo, but it is not MeeGo.

The N900 is the development platform for MeeGo. There will be (and is) MeeGo ports for the N900.
OK, this I get

Quote:
Harmattan has, at this point, nothing to do at all in any fashion way shape form or transparent mist with the N900. There is, however, a thread started by qgil about working on a Community Hacker Edition of Harmattan to run on the N900.
So there will be MeeGo for the N900 and Community Hacker EDITION of Harmattan for the N900, neither of which will be supported by Nokia.

fatalsaint 2010-05-28 00:49
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684432)
So there will be MeeGo for the N900 and Community Hacker EDITION of Harmattan for the N900, neither of which will be supported by Nokia.
IF everything goes according to plan....

Yes.

geohsia 2010-05-28 00:53
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 684433)
IF everything goes according to plan....

Yes.
So one day I can triple-boot, Maemo, MeeGo 1.1 and MeeGo-Harmattan community edition? :D At least one will support USSD and service codes, right? ;)

fatalsaint 2010-05-28 00:57
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684441)
So one day I can triple-boot, Maemo, MeeGo 1.1 and MeeGo-Harmattan community edition? :D At least one will support USSD and service codes, right? ;)
ROFL.. technically possible...

Not really sure why you'd want to ;)... but who knows.. maybe between the three you'll get support for all that weird stuff :D.

wmarone 2010-05-28 00:57
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684441)
So one day I can triple-boot, Maemo, MeeGo 1.1 and MeeGo-Harmattan community edition? :D At least one will support USSD and service codes, right? ;)
All that and it'll do the dishes, with luck. It'll take a lot of LEGO though.

geohsia 2010-05-28 01:12
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 684447)
All that and it'll do the dishes, with luck. It'll take a lot of LEGO though.
Now if someone can port VMWare to ARM we can run all 3 OS vm's at the same time. That's when we teleport via Skype. Who needs a front facing camera when your head can pop out the other side.

me2000 2010-05-28 15:05
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lpotter (Post 681186)
Ya' know. Maybe, just maybe... it's takes time to develop and test software.. ya think?

Last time I checked Nokia still had 40% of the worldwide market. So, how is that trailing the rest of the industry?!?
Here is what people think of Nokia's Symbian response to the iPhone.

http://www.osnews.com/story/23373/No...Got_Work_to_Do

Nokia needs Meego to be a bit hit and fast.

sirsnortalot 2010-05-29 17:49
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Can anyone tell me the best way to put Meego on the N900? Managed to track down the raw file but am a little wary of just dumping the file into the phone and going from there!! :D

Heman1310 2010-05-29 17:55
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirsnortalot (Post 688407)
Can anyone tell me where to download meego for the N900? Have looked high and low with no joy so far!! I keep running into stories saying it will not be made available for the N900.....all very confusing!:mad::mad:
It has been said many times in this thread... Search!

sirsnortalot 2010-05-29 17:56
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Yeah, I got it eventually :)

siovene 2010-05-29 18:09
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684441)
So one day I can triple-boot, Maemo, MeeGo 1.1 and MeeGo-Harmattan community edition? :D At least one will support USSD and service codes, right? ;)
Maemo5 PR1.2 supports USSD.

linuxeventually 2010-05-30 07:40
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 684466)
Now if someone can port VMWare to ARM we can run all 3 OS vm's at the same time. That's when we teleport via Skype. Who needs a front facing camera when your head can pop out the other side.
VMware did port their software to the N800
http://vimeo.com/3363448

But never released it. :mad:

tissot 2010-06-01 09:59
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Future Acer netbooks and tablets to run MeeGo
ASUS launches netbook App Store eying a MeeGo future

Not bad. Hoping to see more and more of these news. :)

cloudstrife1ph 2010-06-01 12:05
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
how was the meego on n900? is it really good or even better than maemo 5 right now?

is it possible to dual boot the n900 with meego and maemo at the same time?

nicola.mfb 2010-06-01 12:29
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cloudstrife1ph (Post 693602)
how was the meego on n900? is it really good or even better than maemo 5 right now?

is it possible to dual boot the n900 with meego and maemo at the same time?
Meego uses a different kernel and there are kexec issues atm so dual boot is not possible (it may be reusing the maemo kernel)

Anyway with flasher you may load temporary the meego kernel and boot it, and got a very minimalistic UI, xterm without wm ;)

stlpaul 2010-06-04 01:31
Re: MeeGo 1.0 for N900 is relased!
 
Linux Action Show podcast this week was talking extensively about MeeGo (and N900).

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=2029


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