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Now, I used this one: http://eko.one.pl/maemo/
I don't know why it is not in the original repo, anymore....

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Well, crap.

I'm just now encountering internet browsing problems with the new OS. I can't get online using my phone or wifi now. I get the infamous "Network problem" error. Anyone else experiencing this? :(

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Can take pictures now with the camera.

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@texrat:
I've been networking just fine so far, browsing, email, internet radio over wi-fi the last two hours. Went online with the phone just for a moment to test that it connected, but didn't actively use it.
EDIT: Phone connection worked ok too.

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My Minimo and Ruby repositories are preventing Application list refreshes. Anyone else have the same problem?

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I didn't install those repositories, but I can't refresh either.

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The minimo repo didn't create any trouble for me. I updated and installed ok. So far I've only had to disable the mistral games repo I was using (for that bejewelled clone etc.), don't know where it went.

EDIT ADD: In any case, if it fails to update, try apt-get update in xterm. It should tell you what fails so that you can disable it in the program manager.

Re: new os update is out guys
 

scroll bars back but it appears that the GPE Calendar summary applet is borked. Can't resize it.

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http://eko.one.pl/maemo bora user

New Internet Tablet OS 2007 Update Out
 

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I can't find xterm. Is there an alternate repo?

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Yeah, the bluetooth bug I submitted was fixed... but not being able to browse the internet or update the software list is a major showstopper... :mad:

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what bluetooth bug?

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It was discussed here a while back. The settings via the new icon weren't pervasive, and the behavior was flaky. For instance, if bluetooth was off it is supposed to be turned on when you select a phone for internet access-- and it didn't always happen. Right now it appears my complaints were solved... I just have new ones...

EDIT: I can now browse the internet using my phone, and Application Manager can now refresh.

It appears that one or more installed apps interfered with the connection: rdesktop, VNC Viewer, or a vpn app custom designed for a certain company. I suspect the latter and will troubleshoot.

Re: new os update is out guys
 

I don't understand why information is being withheld - the changelog should be more detailed, and should cross-reference with bugzilla where appropriate. We're raising bugs on behalf of Nokia, and Nokia isn't able or willing to tell us if these bugs are fixed or not - it's ridiculous.

If the changes and cross-reference information isn't available, that's simply poor project and defect management on Nokias part.

If Nokia believe there is a competitive advantage to be gained by witholding such information, they are wrong.

EDIT: Not having a go at Texrat, I appreciate you aren't in a position to divulge this info. This is a general flame at Nokia :)

Re: new os update is out guys
 

Mil, anything I relate or don't relate is specific to ME, NOT indicative of the company as a whole. I can't speak for what the "main guys" do or don't do-- I also don't make assumptions on what I can release, either, without having very specific directions or reasons.

EDIT: lol, just saw YOUR edit. :p

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Question: How do I go back to a default sources.list without xterm? It took me three days to find the dependencies for *VIM* (not xterm). They were contained in the Minimo installer, and now I cannot get Minimo up. Ugh.

EDIT: It appears that the Ruby and Minimo repos are down. Could be the firewall here at work. Found xterm, and that workd brilliantly.

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In terms of media player:

Still doesn't play or recognize ogg files -- no surprise there.

Finally recognizes my xvid files and tries to play them -- but fails miserably. The xvid files are 320x240 with 128 cbr mp3 audio and were converted with 75% quality via autogk. They play beautifully on the sharp zaurus BTW.

Another complaint is that seeking (skipping through file) doesn't seem to work with video files that are otherwise playable.

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@ nathan

open the application manager -> menu -> tool -> application catalog...

you can then manually enter each repos details

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I agree, the video update didn't seem to do much to solve the problems people were having. Perhaps if NOKIA would publish some specs of video that *will* play on the n800 we could all step up and test those settings (AVI, 3GP, DIVX, etc.?; 200kbps?, 700kbps?). I have a 4 year old Palm device that plays movies smoother than this.

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So is this a good update or bad update?
:)

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Seems to be both. ;)

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Mhhhhh I think I am going to wait for a bit and see....

Thanks for the info.

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Hmm... The performance of the media player ist much more better!
Before the update, mplayer was a lot smoother then media player, now media player works a lot smoother then mplayer(mplayer does not work in this release).
I tried a 512kbit 400x240 file, converted with MC. It has absolutely no tearing and very high framerate. Still no codecs, and still no VGA playback, but really usable.

I tested the speed of the SD card slot and there is no difference to the original firmware. I thought Nokia would improve SD/MMC speed, but they don't. Perhaps, next time...

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After updating, everything (maemo mapper, GAIM, xterm, GPE PIM) works OK, but the dialup networking to Verizon has been hosed (even after re-editing the /etc/ppp/options file). The slower dialup through my ISP works OK.
Howard

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Probably not the same Bluetooth bug, but the Bluetooth Status Bar icon still disappears if you turn Bluetooth off, meaning you have to dig into Control Panel to turn it back on. The icon shouldn't disappear if BT is turned off, the icon should appear gr[ea]yed out, or have a red line through it.

It's in bugzilla, so will be marked up as "Still broken" :)

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Yeah, that was a separate bug, and I agree with you fully.

I also think the Connection icon should provide Add and Edit access-- I need to remember to submit that.

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I really do think there are new application interference issues with this release. I'll provide updates on whatever I test.

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I have found that after I put it into host mode I am able to plug in the AC adapter without any worries. You just need to make sure it's connected, in host mode, and ready to go before you plug it in.

I'll do a side-by-side video (before and after the upgrade on YouTube videos) after work tonight.

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The Bluetooth and Connection icons should be combined, to be honest - two icons is a waste of space, and their functionality is very similar. Graphically representing the current connection state (eg. bluetooth + wifi) could be tricky but possible, given some imagination. :) There's a bug entry knocking around for this enhancement too...

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from where did you install gaim ?
I tried from http://downloads.maemo.org/ gaim.install but it says wrong version.

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Eh, Mil, I dunno if I can go that far. Bluetooth has a broader scope than what's meant by the Connectivity icon-- in fact, what I'm thinking is that "Connectivity" is the wrong name for its function. The name should reflect the narrow purpose IMO: latching onto a network, as opposed to engaging a technology (bluetooth) that allows one to hook up with a plethora of devices. Maybe the name should be "Networking"...

Re: New Internet Tablet OS 2007 Update Out
 

I used the following repository:

http://maemo-hackers.org/apt
Distribution: mistral
Components: main

Howard

Re: New Internet Tablet OS 2007 Update Out
 

careful with that maemo-hackers repository. I found that if I "upgrade" xterm with that repository enabled, it breaks it. Is this still true?

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It looks like the infamous "freeze after 20 minutes of video" bug is fixed in this OS update. I'm well past that point in a 95 minute video I'm watching using Media Player in full-screen mode.

Michael

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Ahaaaaaa. It was gpe summary. Working now.

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Possibly - I wouldn't support the combinging of the two functions if it weren't for the fact that space is at a premium on the status bar. Having two icons that cover roughly the same area of functionality (wireless network connectivity, albeit with two different implementations WiFi and Bluetooth) suggests they could be combined, though that doesn't of course mean they should be combined. :)

I think the existing enhancement request should at least focus attention on why there are two icons - it may be the right choice, it may not, or it may simply result in more appropriate terminology being used within each function in order to reinforce the distinction between the role of the two icons.

Having just checked, combining the icons is not an enhancement request in it's own right, it's merely a secondary request within bug #971. Bah! :)

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*sigh*, and I just re-flashed my n800 :)

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I don't know. I had to install the full xterm, and not an upgrade. Xterm is working fine.

Howard

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What a mess. I'm almost glad Nokia hasn't updated Maemo 2.X for the 770 after reading all these poor people fumble through their N800 updates.

A case of history repeating itself I guess, and on a newer device at that. :(