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NickF22 2007-03-23 22:09

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I don't think the bluetooth and network icons should be combined - I (sometimes) use a bluetooth keyboard, and that's independent of whether I am connected to a wifi network.

I would like to see the bluetooth icon grey out when it's disabled though, rather than disppear completely.

And related to that, it would be nice if the icon bar at the top could grow if it had more icons in than normal - with the statusbarclock and the load-applet, it overflows to a drop down arrow. It should grow to the left (within reason)

pumo 2007-03-23 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardcb (Post 40651)
I used the following repository:

http://maemo-hackers.org/apt
Distribution: mistral
Components: main

Howard

stange, I allready had that, but with bora, no luck with gaim.
or not with mistral even...

NickF22 2007-03-23 22:25

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Has anyone managed to get the camera app working? I've downloaded the camera.install file, but it doesn't seem to be able to find the package. It should be in the standard Nokia repo, but it's not there...

heavyt 2007-03-23 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickF22 (Post 40669)
Has anyone managed to get the camera app working? I've downloaded the camera.install file, but it doesn't seem to be able to find the package. It should be in the standard Nokia repo, but it's not there...

Yes I did. Installed it via application manager after I updated the manager. Found camera under "All" .

Texrat 2007-03-23 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickF22 (Post 40666)
I don't think the bluetooth and network icons should be combined - I (sometimes) use a bluetooth keyboard, and that's independent of whether I am connected to a wifi network.

I would like to see the bluetooth icon grey out when it's disabled though, rather than disppear completely.

And related to that, it would be nice if the icon bar at the top could grow if it had more icons in than normal - with the statusbarclock and the load-applet, it overflows to a drop down arrow. It should grow to the left (within reason)

..bingo. ;)

SeRi@lDiE 2007-03-23 22:48

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I am still undiced it.... I am going to wait until fanoush release a working boot for the new kernel...

NickF22 2007-03-23 23:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 40672)
Yes I did. Installed it via application manager after I updated the manager. Found camera under "All" .

Hmm - I've refreshed App Mgr, rebooted, refreshed again, disabled all other repos except the official Nokia ones... still no joy! Any ideas?

DCr33P 2007-03-23 23:09

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I installed the camera app, but not with the "clean" repositories, cause I backed up my sources.list via the backup manager. No problems installing it, but problems using it. If you have trouble installing it, just forget it, it's not worth loosing much time. I started the app, clicked on the "take photo" icon -> 1 Minute(!!) , a completely locked down device (by that time) and me praying to God(or Linux-God-Admin, whatever you call him) later and the picture was taken :D Then on the picture, I wasn't been able to distinguish whether this mysterious blotch is my nose or maybe my ear... maybe that was just my head? Nevertheless, my head is not that much undefined in realitiy ;)

heavyt 2007-03-23 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickF22 (Post 40676)
Hmm - I've refreshed App Mgr, rebooted, refreshed again, disabled all other repos except the official Nokia ones... still no joy! Any ideas?

So you do not see camera listed under All?

NickF22 2007-03-23 23:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 40679)
So you do not see camera listed under All?

Eventually I did - but only after I re-enabled the non-Nokia repos, for some reason. Installed fine - but everything's very orange! It takes maybe 2-3 seconds to to take a photo - can't see much use except for quick blogging etc.

heavyt 2007-03-23 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickF22 (Post 40682)
Eventually I did - but only after I re-enabled the non-Nokia repos, for some reason. Installed fine - but everything's very orange! It takes maybe 2-3 seconds to to take a photo - can't see much use except for quick blogging etc.

Yes need a lot of light. Took a shot in daylight looks ok.
I would call this beta. :)

Clay 2007-03-23 23:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DCr33P (Post 40677)
I installed the camera app, but not with the "clean" repositories, cause I backed up my sources.list via the backup manager. No problems installing it, but problems using it. If you have trouble installing it, just forget it, it's not worth loosing much time. I started the app, clicked on the "take photo" icon -> 1 Minute(!!) , a completely locked down device (by that time) and me praying to God(or Linux-God-Admin, whatever you call him) later and the picture was taken :D Then on the picture, I wasn't been able to distinguish whether this mysterious blotch is my nose or maybe my ear... maybe that was just my head? Nevertheless, my head is not that much undefined in realitiy ;)

Works fine for me. At least as good as the applet that was available as 'knips'.

Keyser.Soze 2007-03-24 00:04

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I updated to the new OS late last night and I found that the whole thing is more responsive. After resintalling some apps I saw most visible improvement in Gaim. Previously Gaim was unacceptably slow on my N800, so slow that inputing text would be causing severe delays. After the update I tried using MSN and Yahoo in Gaim and switching back and forth between Gaim and browser, RSS reader, etc. and it's A LOT faster. No delay in text input any more. For me Gaim is usable now!

DCr33P 2007-03-24 00:19

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@Keyser.Soze:
then I am not the only one who is wondering if this little thing is running faster, now. For me, it "feels" a bit snappier with new firmware ...

Keyser.Soze 2007-03-24 00:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DCr33P (Post 40695)
@Keyser.Soze:
then I am not the only one who is wondering if this little thing is running faster, now. For me, it "feels" a bit snappier with new firmware ...

Actually I think your "a bit snappier" is a bit of an understatement. :)

DCr33P 2007-03-24 00:37

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I am just cautious and not quite optimistic when it comes to programming and software :D

YoDude 2007-03-24 01:23

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Snappier was my first impression too. It may be because of a fresh install though so time will tell... M/Mapper, for instance seemed to load much faster.

hemplacrosse4 2007-03-24 01:42

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problem solved

DCr33P 2007-03-24 01:44

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Hmmm....youtube is not that fast as I thought it is. My "Biber Brueder" series is not really enjoyable. MaYbe the guys just couldnt get out more of flash7.

pa28pilot 2007-03-24 01:53

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one little bug...After the upgrade and new boot, it asked if I wanted to restore from a backup it found, I said "yes" and it sat for 15 minutes at the "restoring email messages" progress bar with 0%. I aborted it and it said it had restored over 1000 of 2000-odd files.

Someone needs to look at that progress bar. It's definitely not updating, though the device seems to be making progress.

jmk 2007-03-24 02:23

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Email restoring works, but it takes time. After restroring program completes restoring emails it restores other settings etc much faster. Progress bar goes ~5% and then it started to restore others. Email restoring took minutes and everything else under minute or something like that.

I am suprised that mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.11.800 works fine. Just add vo=xv to ~.mplayer/config file. Heroes episode 1 (761 kbps 624x352) plays flawlessy and i didnt see any tearing.

sondjata 2007-03-24 03:08

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anyone been able to get mplayer to stream from UPNP servers?

luketoh 2007-03-24 04:07

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When watching YouTube videos I noticed 2 issues with the new bios on n800:

1) seems to have a persistent clicking sound when playing videos

2) if playing flash, it seems slightly faster when i turn the flash quality to low...but otherwise, not much improvements



Luke

johsua 2007-03-24 04:30

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So - when will the awesome person that wrote the SDHC kernel add-on, rewrite it for the new OS? SDHC card owners want to know... =)

BTW- I REALLY appreciate people's work that have made, and will continue to make, the 770/n800 an actual nice product.

zuti 2007-03-24 04:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luketoh (Post 40719)
When watching YouTube videos I noticed 2 issues with the new bios on n800:

2) if playing flash, it seems slightly faster when i turn the flash quality to low...but otherwise, not much improvements

I almost feel like youtube videos played better with the old firmware and quality set to low. Now the few I tried got out of sync and felt generally slower on the low setting.

Dom Queron 2007-03-24 04:44

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Canola can now play n770-encode.pl encoded xvid videos with the 'mplayer' quality setting mplayer => { abitrate => 128, vbitrate => 420, width => 400, height => 240, fps => 30 } without stuttering, tearing or any kind of jerkyness.

Seeking forward and backwards, toggling fullscreen, pausing, etc no longer causes second long hangs or dropping out of the movie player.

No more random stopping or loss of sych after 20 minutes either, just watched a full episode of 24 converted from DVD without a single hitch or hickup. Happy.

With the old firmware, that didn't work so well.

spice3d 2007-03-24 05:28

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Canola seems to crash on podcasts now. MP3s play fine. (Yes, I've rebooted even taking battery out.) Anyone else have this issue?

luketoh 2007-03-24 06:01

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Why doesn't Nokia explain what they did in this latest update? At least we can have a better idea of WHY some apps don't work properly...

Right now it's just a lot of guesswork...

Luke

d800 2007-03-24 10:35

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It looks to me that the community created SDHC kernel cant appear until the corresponding maemo SDK is released. I wonder what the time scales are for the SDK release ?

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/list...velopers/20038
http://maemo.org/#date_23032007

Dave

DCr33P 2007-03-24 12:10

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There is another "funny" thing which catch my eyes. Now, the "softpoweroff" mode works a little bit different. I changed a line in the /etc/mce/mce.ini file and the when I press the powerbutton long enough the device powers off the screen and blocks all the keys. Compared to pre-10.7 time, I hear a "click" when I press buttons or tap the screen. Actually I can confirm that nowthing is beeing changed "in the background", just the tapping sounds.
It doesn't make sence, because everytime I tap the screen and press a button in "softpoweroff mode" the CPU has to do something (playing a "click" sound) and probably gets out of it's powersaving cycles.

DoctorDan 2007-03-24 12:46

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Before this latest firmware, pandora.com which uses Flash 7 loaded just fine and played streaming music. Now the flash app gets stuck trying to load. Any way to revert back to previous firmware?

Karel Jansens 2007-03-24 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DCr33P (Post 40751)
There is another "funny" thing which catch my eyes. Now, the "softpoweroff" mode works a little bit different. I changed a line in the /etc/mce/mce.ini file and the when I press the powerbutton long enough the device powers off the screen and blocks all the keys. Compared to pre-10.7 time, I hear a "click" when I press buttons or tap the screen. Actually I can confirm that nowthing is beeing changed "in the background", just the tapping sounds.
It doesn't make sence, because everytime I tap the screen and press a button in "softpoweroff mode" the CPU has to do something (playing a "click" sound) and probably gets out of it's powersaving cycles.

Now that can't be good...

Tabster 2007-03-24 13:59

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I like the new OS so far:
- interface seems to respond better
- scrolling long menus is faster
- it is easier to select text in the browser without panning
- can see YouTube videos
- Power + Lock touch screen and keys seems smoother
- scrolling seems easier in the RSS reader (it used to stutter for me)
- and there is the N800 video included rather than just the N93 :)

it feels like the "SP1" version :)

brendan 2007-03-24 14:04

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Originally Posted by Tabster (Post 40775)
it feels like the "SP1" version :)

you should have your pubic hair plucked one by one for that... whats next, patch tuesday requests?

j/k :eek: :p

heavyt 2007-03-24 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabster (Post 40775)
I like the new OS so far:......

it feels like the "SP1" version :)

OH no not the "SP1", run Linux run! :D

In Maryland also. :)

geneven 2007-03-24 14:24

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I see a BIG improvement in battery life. All the bugs mentioned are there, but I still see this as a substantially better system now. The new camera, though, froze me both times I used it -- the second time I had to remove the battery to reboot.

Why is there an easy way to check Gmail and not other web mail such as Yahoo Mail? My Yahoo address is so old I want to keep it.

DCr33P 2007-03-24 14:27

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Kind of a big paradoxon and really nasty abuse in just one sentence ;)
How much did Billy payed you for this? :D

Tabster 2007-03-24 14:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 40776)
you should have your pubic hair plucked one by one for that... whats next, patch tuesday requests?

j/k :eek: :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 40778)
OH no not the "SP1", run Linux run! :D

In Maryland also. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCr33P (Post 40781)
Kind of a big paradoxon and really nasty abuse in just one sentence ;)
How much did Billy payed you for this? :D

tee hee. OK, maybe not the best phrase! Just an old Windows/DOS guy here making my way in the world!
But it does feel like this is the version that should have been released originally :)

DCr33P 2007-03-24 15:10

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Heh, I am waiting for many years for M$ to release their final OS ;)

serkanh76 2007-03-24 15:51

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wow!! it's a mess!! flash is all over the place, there is a huge sync problem. I was at least listening youtube videos but now it's horrible. I couldnt even stand to watch it. And also I can't install gaim it's giving me the msn plugin error. Any advise?


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