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My batteryicon at desktop still wont work.

It works fist after boot, but later it wont respond/open information window anymore.

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that's the problem. An avi file is not a video format, it is just a container for some other video format. 'fully supporting avi' is practically impossible.

I wish they would make it clear that the n800 supports 'basic mp4, eg: divx style' in 'avi containers'. Most other avi formats are not supported.

I think that if a clear description and example conversion tools were offered then people would not be dissapointed (and frustrated) with the video support.

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Noticed new problem..

RSS window at desktop wont update.. It should update every 30min..

Last update was 9PM.. Time is 11:40PM..

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Trying to manually update Omweather through my work wlan always crashed the whole thing. The only thing left to do was to shut it off. It worked perfectly when I made the update over 3G and home wlan.

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Powersave also wont turn screen backlight off when I am playing netradio with Mediaplayer. It turns light lower.. and then back to normal. But not off after it has turned light lower, like it should.

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roberc567:

I don't have specific data on battery life; it just seems obvious to me that I'm changing batteries a lot less often. I am using the hell out of my N800. maybe for 12 hours or more a day for web browsing, reading and replying to email, and listening to audio mainly thru streaming, and reading ebooks. And playing with various programs such as Maemo Mapper. Most of the time I am in my house, linked to the wifi. As far as I can tell, the estimated numbers of hours you get after tapping the battery status icon aren't very worthwhile as estimates, but it currently says 5 hours/8 days, and it has been quite awhile since I put in the fresh battery. My WAG is that now I'm getting more like 5 hrs and before it was more like 3. I could be way off.

I am using two cheap Hong Kong batteries and the original Nokia; they are being charged with a cheap Asian charger. So far so good, and no explosions,

I have a theory about battery life and why I had so many bad problems with the earlier firmware. It seems to me that there were precipitous drops in the amount of battery left and this caused bad crashes and corrupted files. Now, with the new version, that problem seems to be gone.

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So is there a safe to to downgrade back to the previous OS?

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Just flash back to it. I did after I learned that SDHC was not supported. If you are using the windows flasher you will need to download the older version and browse to it from the flasher rather than reflashing the new version. You can download the old version here:

http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia...ED_MR0_ARM.bin

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PDF reader works much faster, Ommweather works just fine, everything else works just fine and the lock keys feature no longer annoys me.

*happy with the upgrade*

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Yes ... identical problems but itermittently. Also, instead of the nightly reboots, I get nightly lockups. I am blaming OMWeather for now and have disabled it. If the problems go away, I will know for sure.

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Is there a new dual boot for this firmware? Don't want to even try the new version without it.

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I cant seem to install GAIM again, it gives me a message saying it is not supported. Im guessing we have to wait for a newer version for the recent firmware.

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After updating the OS, I installed GAIM without problem using the following repositories:

Repository: http://maemo-hackers.org/apt
Distribution: mistral
Component: main

Repository: http://repository.maemo.org
Distribution: mistral
Component: non-free

I have only used the AOL protocol, but it works fine.

Howard

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I also had the same problem but found that it went away after I changed the desktop layout using "Edit Layout".

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Considering the problems users experience, I'd say the update process needs some work. Admittedly, it is a Linux platform, so hacks (seem to) prevail. But considering the N770 and certainly the N800 beat every UMPC-attempt (hardware-, size- and feature-wise) out there, and as such is a sound choice for end-users-not-hackers, it definitely needs work.

Why do we need a secondary pc for this??? Why not directly from the device itself??? Not very convenient, and convenience is all this device is about.

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You need a second system because you have to be out of the initfs section of the device to flash it.

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I did the update and all my software works well, Canola, Omweather (still have to manually update), Rapsody, Claws mail, minimo, Gizmo. I haven't tried the VPNC yet. The system is quicker and seems more responsive.

I am an "end-user" kind of person not much into code/terminal level hacks and I think the update went quite smoothly, at least smoother than my failed attempt at a Vista upgrade. I don't have SDHC cards so I am quite happy with the new firmware.

I would recommend it to everyone apart from SDHC users (obviously). There are enough fixes on it to make it worth while.

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Try to play a podcast...not so fine...

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I was able to reinstall GAIM. All appeared to go smoothly. Specifically: maemo-gaim, maemo-gaim-data, maemo-gaim-locale-en-gb, maemo-gaim-protocol-irc and maemo-gaim-protocol-msn.

When I try to use it, however, I find that IRC doesn't work; something about "protocol not installed". MSN seems fine.

- Neil

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Has anybody noticed certificate errors in the browser?
Go to http://www.maemo.org/ and click on the "Garage" tab... I get a popup "This site has sent an untrusted certificate", "Certificate cannot identify the server". Doing the same thing in Firefox on a PC works fine.

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Yes, I had the same issue. But only if I accepted another certificate from a different site before. Rebooting "solves" the problem.

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When I boot up N800, first it asks pin code, then picture on hands come and it plays that Nokia sound.. Sound doesnt play clear it has errors.. Its not a problem.. But does other have this too?

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Yup, rebooting fixed it... thanks!
Strange that restarting the browser doesn't fix it. Looks like a bug in the OS update... first time I have seen this in the two months I have owned the N800.

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Yes, Fanoush has updated it.
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz

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after updating...reporting "scratching and clicking" noise -like static discharge- while browsing (opera), with stylus, in the headphones only. noise doesn't happen with other applications.

also and especially when playing vids on youtube (noise more frequent!)

This did not happen before update, started immediately after update.

anyone with similar experience?
how to fix this? it's annoying...

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No, I can remember that my old 770 did the same ... but once only.

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Hi,

i have had no problems with the update. It's works fine.

Bernhard

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Now I think it's safe to say that with the new N800 OS version the automatic reboots are completely gone. At least I haven't had a single one so far. The uptime keeps collecting days.

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... while, as predicted earlier this year, the 770 reboots were not fixed with 3.2006, and it is now official they will never be. Good job.

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Yeah, the 770 story left Nokia with egg on their face, IMO. Hopefully they've learned from this. I think they were too hung up in their mobile phone strategy, which simply is to churn out new devices all the time and abandon the old ones, under the assumption that everyone is ready to buy a new one every year (more than an assumption actually, Nokia has been involved in at least one court case where they refused to follow local national law about how long warranty should be valid, claiming that "a phone is meant to last one year" or some such. Nokia lost BTW).

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They use that phrase so much "We learn from this", it's almost a mantra. But that learning is at our expense, no ?
Don't they get that we 770 users "learn from this", too ? :-)

I for one will nurse my (still beloved) 770 for as long as possible, and definitely will wait to see what really happens with the N800 in one year's time.

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TA-t3 hit the nail on the head. The experience and status of the 770 is unfortunate, for sure, but if Nokia DOESN'T learn from it then the platform should be killed outright. I'll draw an analogy to the N-Gage: Nokia *almost* got it right with the QD, but having failed to properly analyze the intended market, screwed up bad enough to finally call it quits. That can still happen here IF the lessons learned don't turn into corrective action-- which, unfortunately, depends more on the managers than the engineers.

The reverse logistics process will make or break this product family. If it isn't fixed, consider yourselves the early adopters of some very unique products. :/

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N-Gage is alive and kicking, and will return to a Series 60 phone near you soon... :) http://futurewatch.n-gage.com/flash.html

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But that isn't the device, Mil.

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Since so many people want youtube videos, i thought i should note that they play fine with latest mplayer for 770.

I grab them with
http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/

ssvb and the mplayer team are my heroes.

I remember that i used to have trouble getting smooth playback of some divx on a pentium-III 450mhz. The mplayer gurus have given me a player that can do XviD on a 220mhz ARM cpu. That is very, very impressive.

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I'm happy with the update. No issues, but then I had only to reinstall FBReader and Evince. There may be minor improvements in UI and browser response times, but there's no question video stability is improved. At last, my little reading machine is a halfway decent portable movie player.

I still can't seem to get either the PDF viewer or Evince to open pdfs from Harpers.org, a crying shame when there are 150 years' worth of articles there. :-(

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Oh well, The Atlantic is available, anyway.

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Footnote: I found a simple workaround. Merely turning off images in the pdf reader allows the N800 reader to open these text-based pdfs (which were made with open source software incidentally). Go figure!