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sjunejo 2010-05-31 08:57

N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Hi,

I found out that Nokia released latest N900 firmware for UK users. I have N900 which I got it from Vodafone but I cant see anything in my 'App Manager --> Update' area it says 'No updates available'.

Does anyone know when we will be able to load this update via OTA because when I am trying to access OVI store it says 'I can not access OVI without updating my N900' and giving me direction that how to update using app manager :-( ?

My current device info [About Product] is as follows;

Maemo 5
Version: 2.2009.51-1.205.1

Thanks,

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Sjunejo

vectorspace 2010-05-31 09:25

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Vodafone UK have their own version of the OS. I don't think anyone has been able to see any significant difference, but it does mean that you have to wait for Vodafone to release their own version of the PR1.2 update - and they haven't even released February's PR1.1.1 update yet.

You can either wait for Vodafone to release their own version of PR1.2, or you can Flash your phone to the generic UK version of PR1.2 - essentially replacing the Vodafone version of PR1.1 that you already have on there.

I was in the same boat (Vodafone UK N900), and I flashed mine on Saturday, and it worked fine.

Flashing instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...ng_your_device
Flashing will remove all of your installed apps.
Your contacts, SMS/IM history, IM accounts, personal files, ringtone settings, and lock code should remain.
Your desktop layout, regional settings, wi-fi settings, e-mail settings and data counter counts will be deleted.

The user data for some, but not all, apps is deleted by the flashing process - the Angry Birds game is an example of an app that loses its data, Mozilla Firefox is an example of one that does not. With some apps, it is possible to manually find, back up, and restore the user data.

Whether you should update or not, is up to you. Here is the changelog for PR1.2:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2
I assume it also includes the changes from PR1.1.1:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1.1

Notable new features include integrated Facebook IM, video calls with Skype, the ability to rearrange the apps menu, and the ability to remove entries from Media Player playlists.

And finally, use PC Suite to do a FULL backup of your phone first, just in case.

Vodafone FAQ: installing unofficial (non-Vodafone) updates invalidates their warranty, but not if they come from the manufacturer:
http://help.vodafone.co.uk/system/se...PIC_INDEX=null

Another thread on the subject: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53240

sjunejo 2010-05-31 09:30

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
VODAFONE bugger.....i think I will load general UK version....thanks mate for your reply and usefull info :)

Cheers
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SJunejo

Dancairo 2010-05-31 09:32

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Not relevant to me but i think vector deserves another 'thanks' for all the info :-)

vectorspace 2010-05-31 09:33

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
And Dancairo deserves a 'thanks' for thanking me :)

sjunejo 2010-05-31 09:34

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
One more question when I will flash my phone manually....Do I have to flash eMMC as well? or firmware would be enough....?

Thanks....

robspiked 2010-05-31 09:37

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Hopefully, an advantage of flashing to the generic build is that future updates won't be held up by the lack of Vodafone support. I did it last Thursday and it worked fine. The really time consuming bit is backing up and restoring data. It also did me the favour of allowing me to ditch a bunch of unwanted apps in one fell swoop. Whether the update is really worth the wait is another matter. Personally, Opera Mobile has made a bigger difference to my life than PR 1.2.

vectorspace 2010-05-31 09:41

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
I didn't flash the eMMC - though the wiki isn''t very clear on why one may need to:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...MC_in_the_N900
Though it does specifically mention pre-production versions of the N900.
Flashing the eMMC resets the MyDocs folder, will delete all your personal data - music, documents, videos, etc.

P.S. one thing I forgot to mention, flashing will also delete your email settings.

Astute 2010-05-31 09:42

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
On Voda here to but i've an unbranded 900 from Carphone Whouse.

If your not seeing any major issues or having concerns with the older PR you might aswell wait for vodafone. They can take some time tho.

But if patience fails and PC Suite update doesnt see new firmware try updating with Maemo Flasher 3.5, details within this forum. Be it PC Suite or Flasher, ensure you do a full back up (everything ticked) using the back up applicaton ON the device before then a FULL back up restore afterwards.

Might also be wise to ensure as a precaution your contacts are all saved to your SIM.

Note that in my instance i only flashed the FIRMWARE not the EMMC.

:D

ali.harmouch 2010-05-31 11:07

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
I will check for updating later on. lol

n900faniam 2010-05-31 11:53

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjunejo (Post 691345)
VODAFONE bugger.....i think I will load general UK version....thanks mate for your reply and usefull info :)

Cheers
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SJunejo

Hi SJunejo

yeah, vodafone are useless, I've spent days trying to update, only to find that vodafone are the problem. I nearly went so far as to send the phone back, I thought I had a faulty machine

How did the reflash go

ultravires 2010-05-31 12:28

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vectorspace (Post 691337)
Flashing will remove all of your installed apps.
Your contacts, SMS/IM history, IM accounts, personal files, ringtone settings, and lock code should remain.
Your desktop layout, regional settings, wi-fi settings, and data counter counts will be deleted.

The user data for some, but not all, apps is deleted by the flashing process - the Angry Birds game is an example of an app that loses its data, Mozilla Firefox is an example of one that does not. With some apps, it is possible to manually find, back up, and restore the user data.

Thank your for the INFO :)

... I am not sure but I think that there are some leftovers of the apps remaining in the folders. Is this possible and if it is, how do I know which folders and files should I delete (also not to use memory space without need)?

And a second question to that, will the old app data in the folders cause any kind of troubles when installing the same (and other new) apps again etc.?

vectorspace 2010-05-31 13:20

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
I'm afraid I don't have an answer for either question.

ultravires 2010-05-31 13:32

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Well ... I had to ask :D

abill_uk 2010-05-31 13:58

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
That was quite a mouthful of very useful information from vectorspace and i applaud you for being such a bright spark lol well done though seriously.
We need more people like you on this community !.

abill_uk 2010-05-31 14:01

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ultravires (Post 691611)
Thank your for the INFO :)

... I am not sure but I think that there are some leftovers of the apps remaining in the folders. Is this possible and if it is, how do I know which folders and files should I delete (also not to use memory space without need)?

And a second question to that, will the old app data in the folders cause any kind of troubles when installing the same (and other new) apps again etc.?

The only real answer to that is to flash emmc but as your probably aware it clears out everything lol.

nocworker 2010-05-31 14:18

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
i'm in finland and i have exactly the same problem. also i have the feeling that nokia no longer cares about its customers anymore...

sjunejo 2010-05-31 15:38

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Hyyyy...guys....flashing is finished succesfully with in 3minutes :)... I would suggest to follow LINK (easy and straight forward).

Latest Device Information
Maemo 5
Version : 10.2010.19-1.203.1


I didn't flash eMMC but I have to install all my apps again...which is not that bad...good chance to clear some crap stuff out which we install just for testing.....

But one thing is that I read that new firmware will provide Skype Video calling support but how do I make video calls with SKYPE...anyway....will find out after some time when we'll get use to it....

I think Regarding the question for what to clear from 'MyDocs' is that simply search for default folders we get with N900 which are usually starts from '.***' [hidden folders in linux] and remove all other which are created by user....

Let me know guys if you find something extraordinary with new firmware....

Thanks very much for all of your comments and help (specially vectorspace)

Cheers...happy upgrading.... :)

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SJunejo

bockersjv 2010-05-31 15:44

Re: N900 - Latest Firmware Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astute (Post 691365)
On Voda here to but i've an unbranded 900 from Carphone Whouse.

If your not seeing any major issues or having concerns with the older PR you might aswell wait for vodafone. They can take some time tho.
:D

Wait for Vodafone, you are kidding surely.

There are plenty of N95 and 5800 customers staill waiting for Vodafone years later. Vodafones firmwares are generally a pile of pooh and are all about removing functionality not enhancing the phone, So best advice is to install the UK generic FW at the earliest opportunity.


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