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jaysire 2010-06-04 07:20

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Originally Posted by rcarlos (Post 698999)
But store lists price inclusive of taxes....so whats the extra charge for....royalty ???

Maybe the reason we don't have more apps in the store? Bugs, such as overcharging would definitely delay the release...

rcarlos 2010-06-04 07:40

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Phew.... If I was nokia, thats the bug I would definitely not want to fix

nosa101 2010-06-04 07:43

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Nokia keeps shooting themselves in the foot, IMHO.

A little tweet or blog post on conversations could solve all of this

HellFlyer 2010-06-04 07:43

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I dont know about bugs but they stole 9 cents from me :D

In ovi store Pro version of Panorama app was 2.99CAD today when I checked my credit card statement "OVI STORE ESPOO" charged me 3.09CAD

HellFlyer 2010-06-04 08:00

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in that case Ovi store should give store prices in USD not CAD...minor issue but annoying

Stonik 2010-06-04 08:27

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Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 699050)
I dont know about bugs but they stole 9 cents from me :D

In ovi store Pro version of Panorama app was 2.99CAD today when I checked my credit card statement "OVI STORE ESPOO" charged me 3.09CAD

Don't worry, I gave good tips on my trips to TO, when I studied in Guelph a few years ago. The countries are even now. :D

About the Ovi Store, I'd be willing to spend a few euros for good games. The problem is that the game development is more or less happening in North America. And we all know how well Nokia is doing out there.

cashclientel 2010-06-04 08:31

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Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 699050)
I dont know about bugs but they stole 9 cents from me :D

In ovi store Pro version of Panorama app was 2.99CAD today when I checked my credit card statement "OVI STORE ESPOO" charged me 3.09CAD

$3.09 - $2.99 = 10 cents

rcarlos 2010-06-04 08:37

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He was willing to forgo the 1 cent for nokia taking the initiative of paid apps

russo_br 2010-06-04 17:31

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Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 698951)
I haven't looked in Ovi store yet. However, i am quite impressed with what i can get, all for free, in Extras.

I agree it's ridiculous what Ovi has (not) accomplished in the last six months, but I am a bit curious: what do people expect to get out of Ovi given the niche status of Maemo?

Lol, "niche status" is nice way to say Nokia killed Maemo and is telling all developers to make content for the next Meego device!! The problem is that if Ovi Store doesn't get new content, in some months probably Extra repositories will also get less content... and even fewer after a Meego device is launched.

If I were a fanboy or a Nokia employee hired to do damage control within the community (qgil) my answer would be something like that: "Qt4.6 is the answer for all your problems, it will make all iPhone and Android developers move to Meego, and therefore Maemo shall benefit indirectly due to the magical cross-platform compatibility Qt allows!!".

rcarlos 2010-06-04 17:44

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thats a good one russo and I believe thats the thought process of nokia too.But I have my doubts though...what makes us so confident that nokia wld get it all right with Meego? Are they much wiser now than when maemo 5 was created?

russo_br 2010-06-04 17:48

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Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 698973)
I bought my device knowing it was unfinished. I wanted to contribute to its development. The apps in extras are a lot better than anything the Ovi Store has to offer and they are free.

But i can understand your disappointment. I just don't think continuos whining about how Nokia screwed us over is going to fix anything.

Whining is not going to fix anything, but as consumers we definitely need to complain if we are feeling disappointed with a company which we used to be loyal to. I also bought knowing that it was unfinished, but after Meego announcement I am sure it will never be properly finished at all.

Each person has its own feelings to what Nokia did with N900... My answer is simple and it is what every disappointed N900 owner should do: spread to everybody you can that Nokia can not be trusted, not only on this forum but commenting on Internet reviews about the phone and to all your friends. Some can argue that I am overacting and that kind of attitude would just be worst for Maemo... but from my point of view Maemo is already destined to death...

badstraw 2010-06-04 17:49

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after all this mess nokia is gonna loose at least 50 000 loyal customers... But I think they dont really care

anaskr 2010-06-04 18:00

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Originally Posted by badstraw (Post 699869)
after all this mess nokia is gonna loose at least 50 000 loyal customers... But I think they dont really care

well they aint loosing me !! as long as they make phones like the 3310>6310>6600>9300>6680>6233>N93>N73>N95>E90>N958 GB>N82>E71>N79>E63>5800>N97>N97mini>X6>E72>N8

even i have never bought all these !! these were one of the best :D !! u can add to the list !! u dont need to compare if you love what this company makes :D !! its always the best and always will !!

rcarlos 2010-06-04 18:05

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just an update...N900 is released in India today.Historically India has been a bigger market for Nokia atleast on the symbian front.Remember this is the first of the Nokia's internet tablets to get released here.
So Nokia is pushing hard to make as much money on the hardware as the N97

russo_br 2010-06-04 18:18

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Originally Posted by rcarlos (Post 699860)
thats a good one russo and I believe thats the thought process of nokia too.But I have my doubts though...what makes us so confident that nokia wld get it all right with Meego? Are they much wiser now than when maemo 5 was created?

I don't think Nokia will get it alright with Meego... and that's not an emotional statement from a N900 owner, I am analyzing from a business point of view. Android and iPhone are just far ahead on this competition, and last year Nokia positioned Maemo as a competitor with these OSes. Just a few months later they said Meego is the future... That may be two things:

- Lack of strategic planning by Nokia executives, which wouldn't change with Meego unless Intel assumes all the project, and this doesn't seem to be happening (at least I just see messages from Nokia's Meego team, for me Intel just entered with is name for marketing reasons, with the objective to sell Atom CPUs in the future, away from ARM chips)

- Nokia and Intel signed an agreement in the middle of 2009. Nokia launched N900 with Maemo 5 at November 2009, with lots of missing features like Ovi Store. I doubt they didn't even think about Meego when N900 was launched... unless my first comment about lack of planning is right. Assuming they were already planning Meego, that would be even worst for both customers and developers who believed on Maemo 5's future, and invested their time and money trusting on Nokia. Such disappointment is not easily forgotten... And the business has a simple rule of thumb: "if it costs $1 for you to conquest a customer's loyalty, it will cost $10 to bring him back in case of disappointment"

nosa101 2010-06-04 18:20

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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 699912)
I don't think Nokia will get it alright with Meego... and that's not an emotional statement from a N900 owner, I am analyzing from a business point of view. Android and iPhone are just far ahead on this competition, and last year Nokia positioned Maemo as a competitor with these OSes. Just a few months later they said Meego is the future... That may be two things:

Maemo 5 was always step 4 in their 5 step process.

MeeGo, or Harmattan, was always the goal. get your facts right

russo_br 2010-06-04 18:22

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Originally Posted by badstraw (Post 699869)
after all this mess nokia is gonna loose at least 50 000 loyal customers... But I think they dont really care

The rumor is that they sold 100 000 N900 units in the first months, so it seems about right... But they also will loose potential buyers, since every customer influence on friends opinion.

anaskr 2010-06-04 18:26

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yea and then later on they will start chanting nokia rocks nokia rocks once it makes a phone with all the feature you always wanted and better than all the current other phones in line !!

yeah and those pessimist ppl around here i dont expect you to reply on what i say!! you guys can just say that oh yeah and when will nokia make that who cares i am opting for android !! oh yeah good for you then :)

nosa101 2010-06-04 18:27

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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 699920)
The rumor is that they sold 100 000 N900 units in the first months, so it seems about right... But they also will loose potential buyers, since every customer influence on friends opinion.

First 5 weeks

Enyibinakata 2010-06-04 18:47

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Nokia == No care a

russo_br 2010-06-04 20:07

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Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 699915)
Maemo 5 was always step 4 in their 5 step process.

MeeGo, or Harmattan, was always the goal. get your facts right

Thanks for remember!! I forgot this other fanboy jargon "step 4 out of 5"...

First of all, a step 4 out of 5 should be a device for internal test only. Every device sold to consumers must be step 5 of 5, otherwise is a beta version, which shouldn't be sold as a final product.

Just wait and see... the only way Meego will be a success is if Intel assumes the control of the project and invest heavily on Atom based devices, otherwise you will see Nokia limited to sell entry-level mobiles with Symbian, loosing high-end market share even for LG and HTC.

nathaneous 2010-06-04 20:27

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i dont care whether the n900 is step 4 or 3 of 5, just give me some bloody games and apps ovistore!!!!

DanielW 2010-06-04 20:34

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I don't get what's wrong with you people?

I am really thankfull that Nokia did release this phone. And I really don't get what you are all crying about beeing disapointed. I am quite happy with the amount of support Nokia puts into this.

I expected less and still bought the device. Nokias big misstake was to too much target the average phone (for example by putting that phone on ther main website) user who should never bought that phone.

Well, that clearly explains why they sold way more than they expected. It got too much attation in the wrong target groups.

@russo_br:

I am happy to be part of that step 4. Happy that Nokia does all of this open.

And well you are all still using the N900, can't be so bad then. If it is really that bad, sell it and get something else.

I think it does all what Nokia ever said it will do?

nosa101 2010-06-04 20:38

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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 700072)
Thanks for remember!! I forgot this other fanboy jargon "step 4 out of 5"...

First of all, a step 4 out of 5 should be a device for internal test only. Every device sold to consumers must be step 5 of 5, otherwise is a beta version, which shouldn't be sold as a final product.

Just wait and see... the only way Meego will be a success is if Intel assumes the control of the project and invest heavily on Atom based devices, otherwise you will see Nokia limited to sell entry-level mobiles with Symbian, loosing high-end market share even for LG and HTC.

Yay!!!!
Brownie points for you!!!
You whipped a "fanboy"
Now, you may eat a d*ck
Look, if you want to argue state your facts. Don't pull **** out of your a**.

Nokia made it known that it was a step 4 of 5. Whether that should have been done, I could care less.

horus 2010-06-04 21:26

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theres now a crappy alarm app for free and a converter.

nosa101 2010-06-04 21:29

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the converter looks pretty though

Enyibinakata 2010-06-04 21:33

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Originally Posted by nathaneous (Post 700086)
i dont care whether the n900 is step 4 or 3 of 5, just give me some bloody games and apps ovistore!!!!

go write your own you brat and ingrate

amorek13 2010-06-04 21:39

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Originally Posted by horus (Post 700181)
theres now a crappy alarm app for free and a converter.

where are you guys getting this i can not see any of that in ovi store on pc or n900??

Enyibinakata 2010-06-04 21:40

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Originally Posted by horus (Post 700181)
theres now a crappy alarm app for free and a converter.

Nothing crappy about it, ts quite a fun app. why are you so ungrateful ! You dont have to be such a spoilt BRAT

nathaneous 2010-06-04 21:41

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Originally Posted by Enyibinakata (Post 700193)
go write your own you brat and ingrate

no need for name calling :mad:

if you take everything seriously in life then i feel sorry for. last time i checked this was a tread about the ovistore, im entitled to make a minor comment about the need for some more apps and games for the ovistore, especially as Nokia has teased us with some upcoming apps and games (3d rollercoaster to name but one).

if this makes me a 'brat', then i'!l embrace that title until they release some new content.

atilla 2010-06-04 21:41

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guys,seriously who needs some new ovi apps and games?im already playing bounce evolution since 3 months and im now at level 2;)

ZogG 2010-06-04 21:46

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Originally Posted by amorek13 (Post 700204)
where are you guys getting this i can not see any of that in ovi store on pc or n900??

There is option (sort by) where you choose not top free but new

mokkey 2010-06-04 21:52

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Originally Posted by atilla (Post 700210)
guys,seriously who needs some new ovi apps and games?im already playing bounce evolution since 3 months and im now at level 2;)

lol that was silly

amorek13 2010-06-04 21:56

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Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 700223)
There is option (sort by) where you choose not top free but new



thank you very much

raphseraph 2010-06-04 22:01

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Ahhh...

You have MAME. You have the Zeemote controller running perfectly. You have the Playstation Emulator. You have Nintendo, the Commodore series up to the Amiga and Sega...
And you are posting over not having some silly game in addition to the literal THOUSANDS that you can play through any of the above emulators? Some silly game you would have to PAY for, when you can play any of the above for FREE?

I have never tried Angry Birds, so I must admit I do not know how good it is, but somehow... Somehow I doubt it will top Giga Wing or Hexen 2 or Quake in my list of games to play on the N900. Not to mention Dune 2!

Maemo is Linux. That means Open Source. That means that you have a WORLD of programmers providing you with new applications DAILY. You can be thankful to them and use what they provide you with, or you can wait for some application provided by Nokia that you can complain about, BECAUSE it comes from Nokia and involves liability.

You buy a gaming rig and complain the OS only has Solitaire when you want to play Minesweeper also?

Forget the silly OVI apps. Read up on these forums and learn why our N900s have already FAR exceeded what you paid for them, in value given back to us users. Learn about YOUR device and make the most of it. Nothing comes close.

HellFlyer 2010-06-04 22:18

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New game is available :)


Freecell Maemo

http://store.ovi.com/content/41319?c...tentArea=games

nosa101 2010-06-04 22:23

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Offscr seem to be churning out the most apps in the Ovi store

HellFlyer 2010-06-04 22:42

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Yep but most of are just for fun no serious apps

nosa101 2010-06-04 22:57

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It seems to be their thing. I don't think they make "serious" apps and they are free too

HellFlyer 2010-06-04 23:02

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Yep , one more thing..it seems these games need some updates ,after upgrading to PR 1.2 they all have lags. I doubt that N900 cant handle them its just that they are not optimized for Qt 4.6 but we cant blame Nokia for this one :D


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