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gerbick 2010-06-08 01:04
Re: iPhone 4
 
Wait... when did this thread turn into a flame war!?

Laughing Man 2010-06-08 01:09
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 704635)
600mhz A8 vs. 1ghz A4 - I am SO SURPRISED that nobody has said "A8 is double the A4, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!"... please keep that up y'all and don't say it.
*resists the urge to say it*

extendedping 2010-06-08 01:10
Re: iPhone 4
 
I just hope this further pushes the n900 down...waiting for the mid $300 area...

Benson 2010-06-08 01:17
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 704635)
Such as what configurability? Besides the hardware keyboard and rather unused IR port... they both don't support USB OTG, they both have a 5mp back camera - iPhone is lacking a cover - both have a flash for that back camera, both have a forward facing camera.
Well, WRT OTG, some hackers already have it working, and we'll get it nicely packaged "any day now" (I think a week or two). It's likely to take a bit longer to hack that on an iPhone, because you can't build a stock kernel from source -- you either gotta hack object code, and take advantage of the existing kernel, or start completely from scratch. OTOH, I suppose a chances exists (though vanishingly slim, IMO) that iOS gets OTG in a future update, where Maemo never will.

Of course, I would tend to call that angle "hackability" or "openness" -- "configurability" probably referred to something totally different.

Oh, and processor-wise -- everyone knows an A4 SoC has a Cortex A8 core, same as ours. (And running the same 1GHz clock speed as some of ours. :p) But if you want to compare numbers, you gotta compare SoC vs. SoC, so it's 0xA4 vs 3430 -- we're 20.9x as good! :p

gerbick 2010-06-08 01:26
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 704643)
*resists the urge to say it*
Do it... DO IT! I triple dog dare you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson
Oh, and processor-wise -- everyone knows an A4 SoC has a Cortex A8 core, same as ours. (And running the same 1GHz clock speed as some of ours. ) But if you want to compare numbers, you gotta compare SoC vs. SoC, so it's 0xA4 vs 3430 -- we're 20.9x as good!
You do know that it took me a second to figure out how you got that number, right? Today is very slow day for me it seems ;)

I saw the USB OTG "hack" and was impressed and we all know that Apple would never allow that directly. Not unless down the line they can charge you for an accessory and get even more money from you.

If that USB OTG dongle comes out for the iPhone 4, I want my cut Steve!

Thesandlord 2010-06-08 01:30
Re: iPhone 4
 
I thought that there was limited USB OTG for iPad, like using that ******ed camera connector. I have seen like a hard drive plugged into it and working, and i thought someone made a camera for the iPad or something like that... Its not real OTG but like if you have a bluetooth keyboard the only reason for OTG really is hard drives... or hacking stuff...

ezmendriz 2010-06-08 01:31
Re: iPhone 4
 
true the Evo has wimax, still it has a new technology different from 3g.
About video chat: n900 has gtalk and skype video chat no matter netwrok. Iphone 4 only has video chat with itself and over wifi. in my opinion except for the screen.

patlak 2010-06-08 01:32
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson (Post 704656)
Well, WRT OTG, some hackers already have it working, and we'll get it nicely packaged "any day now" (I think a week or two). It's likely to take a bit longer to hack that on an iPhone, because you can't build a stock kernel from source -- you either gotta hack object code, and take advantage of the existing kernel, or start completely from scratch. OTOH, I suppose a chances exists (though vanishingly slim, IMO) that iOS gets OTG in a future update, where Maemo never will.

Of course, I would tend to call that angle "hackability" or "openness" -- "configurability" probably referred to something totally different.

Oh, and processor-wise -- everyone knows an A4 SoC has a Cortex A8 core, same as ours. (And running the same 1GHz clock speed as some of ours. :p) But if you want to compare numbers, you gotta compare SoC vs. SoC, so it's 0xA4 vs 3430 -- we're 20.9x as good! :p
I haven't seen any info of the A4 chip in the iphone 4 being clocked at 1ghz. Anything I missed in their presentation?

quipper8 2010-06-08 01:33
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 704668)
I saw the USB OTG "hack" and was impressed and we all know that Apple would never allow that directly. Not unless down the line they can charge you for an accessory and get even more money from you.

If that USB OTG dongle comes out for the iPhone 4, I want my cut Steve!
yeah, I noticed iphone 4 has a new dock connector, all new accessories need to be bought

PradaBrada 2010-06-08 01:47
Re: iPhone 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourdain (Post 704540)
Why thank you my brother, that is quite the honour coming from an internationally renowned Doctor of Medicine, and indeed my gastronomic verve is second to none. :cool:
Please brother, you are being too kind :p
I look forward to enjoying your finest dish

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 704548)
And you've got multiple personalities. I responded to your points in a different thread. Instead of bringing straw man arguments and being completely oblivious of how things actually are, perhaps you should make yourself familiar with what is actually happening in the field.

Or are you just doing to computing what you claim others do with medicine?
I suspect Kraepelin's syndrome


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