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Joke.. :)
Does iphone 4 have a swap partition ?
Well that would be a new feature for iphone 6.... the infiniMEM feature

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@noipv4: it can be enabled (via a config file) on jailbroken iphones and I've read that it's enabled by default on iOS4.

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Thanks for the heads up :)

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they built the phone keeping AT&T in mind and the AT & T cannot handled the Data traffic if they allowed video calling using 3G network

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From what I have read there are both good and evil from Apple and Nokia, but as someone mentioned in this forum we cannot match a previous gen phone (7-9mnths before) with a not yet released as of today phone, Yes I phone may have awesome screen other stuff which will be matched off with the N8 (hopefully),

there is one thing that we all must see is that the support driven by Apple to their products compared to Nokia, We all know what happened to N97 N96. The main reason N900 is surviving upto date as is because of the commitment given by the Maemo Community, So we could imagine where N900 be with proper backing of Nokia

So conclusion is that I wz never a geeky or a master of linux to write Qt to N900 but I enjoyed the phone and I belive Iphone 4, 5 ,6 will take its own fans and while the N900, N8 , S4 will have theirs,

But Nokia must change the strategy on launching/Marketing and services to their high end products

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I'm not really a fan of any. Things for me are simple, it can or it can't.

So far iPhone 4 is tempting but I need confirmation that it can handle various video formats and that it can BT contact cards.

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On a software related note, I installed iBooks yesterday, but I prefer Stanza as a reader, yet the two don't seem to share catalogues. That's what sometimes is most frustrating with iOS: Walled gardens inside of walled gardens.

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So did you hack the damn thing? with what?

And regarding my question about video codecs, can you recommend any software?

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Bec, were you talking to me? I'll give you a long, droning response regardless.

As far as accessing other application's private data stores, I have not yet looked into that for a non-jailbroken device. It was once on my list, but I hadn't thought about it for a while since yesterday.

There are actually three types of developers for iOS devices. Those that jailbreak, those that contribute to the App Store, and those that develop for personal use. Of course, someone could wear any combination of those hats, but for the time being, I'm only in the last category. It costs me about $100 a year for the "privilege". Without using the App Store regulators, I'm allowed to share my apps with 100 other devices. But what if everyone paid the extra $100 a year? A whole other ecosystem could develop, and would Apple really care? Uh, probably. But I'm guessing a $100 a year (of which Apple would only get $30) is more than the average iPhone or iPod user spends on apps. The iPad is a different story, but most apps don't have recurring costs like the developer subscription fee.

Anyway, I have my irons in many fires, but because of the relatively tight coupling of hardware and software, I like to keep my Apple products closely compatible with the mother ship. I rely on these products, and I want to give Apple the least opportunity to intentionally or unintentionally break them. Did you listen to Steve Jobs' last keynote? He gave his three reasons why apps get rejected from the App Store. One of them was because of people using private APIs. Well, sometimes I like to dip into those private APIs, and it usually is as easy as circumventing an #ifdef. I could go on, but I hope you get the picture.

Why not be very specific about the formats that interest you, then someone could possibly give you a more definitive answer. An interesting note that I've mentioned here before, in iOS 4, Apple has opened up general access to the other processors. If someone was so inclined, porting hardware accelerated versions of video and audio codecs should be easier.

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Mostly avi -> xvid, divx, mpeg2 and wmv (in that order pf priorities :p)

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yxflash for iphone

http://www.mobilesoft.kr/iphone.html

For business cards (haven't used it)

http://www.appstorehq.com/beammeprov...hone-15151/app

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I read somewhere that part of the upgrade problems people (on non-jailbroken iPhones) were due to apps causing probems.

Which I thought was strange..since Apple approves every app themselves.

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So how do you find the multitasking? the fact that you have to long press the screen to get the "minus" singn to be able to close the apps looks very clumsy compared to maemo? any way to have that minus in an always on stance?

Alright! thanks imperiallight, now I'm really set to go :p

I know I'm really really stretching it, but, is it possible to have widgets? I saw there's something for the iPod app, but it doesn't seem to be movable/dragable on the icon screens. This ain't one of my top priorities but it's a nice thing to have. Any hacks for this?

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If you use an iPhone then I doubt the minus would be a problem. That's the same way apps are deleted so it's been that way for a while. Not saying it's the most intuitive or anything, I'm just saying a regular user wouldn't have that issue


EDIT: It is not a long press. It is a double press.

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Depends on the multitasking software you use (but I guess you are referring to vanilla OS 4), JB mutitouch programs can use any preconfigured action to open up the menu e.g swiping across the top rim of the screen or power button single press.

But using the Home button is OK. Having to long press is not ideal but it allows you to use a short press for another function.

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@nosa101: yeah, but closing an app is something that you'd do multiple times a day, as opposed to the occasional app deletion. Thankfully, there is a mod for this (jailbreak needed)...

@bec: there are a couple of apps for lock screen info/widgets.. not desktop-like though. back then (when I cared), the best one was IntelliScreen.

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I know most people here won't agree but I like the way apple enforced multitasking. There really are apps that don't diserve an execution thread while backgrounded. The third party apps free the multitasking completley I think so I'll probably stick to the default way for starters and see how the battery behaves.

I dont mind the button, I don't like the fact that you have to press the screen for a few secs to be able to close multiple ones at a time. The red minus should be shown by default imho. I'm sure this will be adressed one way or another though.

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There's nothing wrong with it, in fact it's quite clever. I'd have no issues with making it available on Linux, though it would take a decent amount of work.

Beyond that, I'd like it more if it were possible for the user to say "I'm going to override you, OS, and require this app be allowed to run regardless."

Only downside thus far is it makes cross platform software more difficult if you target the iPhone and want to make use of it.

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Yup, I very often watch various stuff, get bored an check my email or im while video is runing in backgroud, then when I hear the action going up again I switch back to the video :p

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@bec: if IM is important, you might want to wait a bit to see how the new OS improves upon it. Currently IM takes quite awhile to switch back/forth. Everytime the app is started, it takes 2-3 secs to initialize and reconnects to the proxy server to download the changes (all the new msgs) you get while it's backgrounded.

AFAIK the new multitasking implementation does not allow for continuous connection to be maintained in the background, so the main improvement/acceleration that IM apps will gain from OS4 will be just the software initialization time. This affects IM and apps like RSS/Twitters. The latter isn't too problematic, since you don't usually go in/out of those kind of apps anyway.

Of course you can make them run full time in the background with jailbroken tools, but they drain the battery.

PS: Two good IM apps to watch on iPhone: BeeJive and IM+

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Quickwidgets is the way to go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF0TF_wWx78

And possibly Cydget, in fact there is a widget community developed just for these programs.

Intelliscreen was what I also used ages ago but these programs have superceded it!

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@imperialights: Thanks, I didn't know that.
Btw, is OS4 jailbreak for 3GS out yet? I wanna make sure my device can stay jailbreak-able thru the OS4 update, even though it'll be awhile before the JB apps and extensions are made fully compatible and stable on OS4.

I can't wait til they integrate SBSettings to the new multitasking interface..

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I am not sure if its available, I know they achieved it. So it shouldn't be too long!

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just curisou if you are running a jailbroken 3gs and you have a lot of apps installed from cydia, if you upgrade and rejailbreak, I assume you need to reinstall your apps from cydia??

Does cydia have paid apps or is it just kind of the wild wild west on cydia?

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Nah, I don't find im on the go that important. Probably because i'm only used to IM at home and if I do it on the go it's only because I want to contact someone. I certainly don't need an always online presence. Not until IM replaces sms at least.

Even on N900 I use pidgin esp because as a yahoo user emoticons are a crucial part of my existence. The built in feature is only usefull to me for video chats.

But how ab IM file transfers? I know yahoo can send pics, but how about docs & archieves?

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@quipper: there are paid apps on cydia. afaik cydia have implemented their own apps license registry and payment system (paypal capable), so you just need to relogin to cydia on your freshly (blank) jailbroken iDevice to redownload all the apps you've already paid for for free.
There are also utilities to make a list of all the currently installed packages, so that you can mass-install those packages again on blank device on one go.

@bec: If you don't need to jump in/out of IM, then that limitation won't be much of a bother then. The remote-proxy system is useful for when you're in areas with bad/limited connectivity. It keeps you connected (maybe with 'away' status) and keeps receiving the messages even when you're disconnected. Useful for messenger service without offline-msg-receiving feature, like gtalk.

Shared file repository isn't available yet in OS4. I think they only allow you to send pictures from the photo library. I think you've to resort to email transfers for most of file exchanges.

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I'm not sure if you're serious, but since the release of the GM version (same as public release) about 2 weeks ago (?), I've been getting a steady stream of app updates. I only had one minor problem that I was able to work around, and that app was just updated yesterday. But I'm pretty boring; I'm generally just using the well maintained stuff.

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iPhone 4 - First Official review by a major website (I think)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/

Is it just camera tricks or do the program icons seem to hover/pop out because the screen DPI is so high?!

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@imperiallight: it's your retinas dude... they're pierced...

from that engadget review:

W T F??

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Shenanigans. No note is made of the capacity of the battery, and Apple is extremely aggressive on profiling and power management. I'm also guessing there's some huge fudge factor and unconscious exaggeration in usage.

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@wmarone: dude, even HALF of that is still amazing (for a cortex-A8 class device of that size). The battery's physical size is about 1.6.x bigger than the one on 3GS if I'm not mistaken. No idea of the type used.

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The A4 CPU efficiency is what is adding to battery gains apparently.

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I'll buy the number if people start reporting that runtime with heavy usage. Until then I don't really believe that a device as interactive as that, regardless of being an A8 class device, will last under heavy utilization for 38 hours. I'd sooner believe 24, and in either case a significant portion of time has the device completely idle.

The A4 is not significantly different from most other CPUs, and since it's an Apple-only chip we won't know for a long time what's missing from it. I'd be shocked if it was drastically different from a standard Samsung SoC and the CPU's power consumption is easily managed with proper profiling of applications.

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I can squeeze 30 hours out of a single charge on my 3GS right now with phone calls, some gaming, but I've dropped the brightness on the screen and I manually update my e-mails once I go into the Mail app.

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i think there some comparisons online out there and it is basically just a samsung chip, sorry no 'magic' there.

i call BS on the 38hours. maybe if it was mostly idle, but they said normal usage, lots of email, even bluetooth to car.

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usatoday review says battery 'ostly not last through day

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...4-review_N.htm

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I bet the difference is that there is no facebook/twitter widget draining the battery by updating constantly over the 3G network (this is the problem for lots of Android phones, from what I hear).

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http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...pads-brain.ars

Interesting and balanced article on possible benefits of the A4 chip.

Suggests Apples acquisition of the P.A. Semi team in 2008 might have something to do with its efficiency "through pervasive use of power and clock gating. Power gating is a relatively straightforward technique that involves shutting down the parts of a chip that aren't in use. It's harder to implement in practice than it sounds, though, because you have to divide the chip up into blocks that can be put to sleep and awakened independently. You also have to size and arrange those blocks so that the extra delay involved in entering and exiting sleep states doesn't screw up the chip's overall timing.

Because the iPad's LCD is so large and its power draw so great relative to the other components, it's hard to imagine that the A4 gives the iPad more than a few percent battery life advantage vs. a chip like the Snapdragon—in the grand scheme of things for a tablet device, the extra hardware that chips like the Snapdragon and the i.MX515 have on A4 probably doesn't matter a whole lot. But a chip that's really aggressively optimized for the iPhone might give the phone a real battery life and performance advantage over the competition."

But its speculative.

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here is a better article comparing the apple a4 and samsung s5pc110

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=225700447

the upshot is it is basically the same with some minor tweaks and removal of some unecessary components of the generic oem soc

this is essentially the same processor the upcoming samsung galaxy is supposed to be using i think

apple has bought sevral chip design firms but that might be more about ip cya than actually designing their own chips.

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OMG can engadget be more full of BS!? unbelievable!

"Apple has made the stainless band around the phone essentially a couple of big antennae"
-BS! BS! BS! I've dissembled BT antennas and WIFI antennas and let me tell you there's nothing like a steel rim about them.

"Instead of hewing to the curved, plasticky, silver-bezeled look of the iPhone 3G and 3GS..."
-So I guess they've missed that crappy look on their previous review huh?

"Overall, you simply won't find a better display on a phone, and that's not just lip service."
-ever heard about Super AMOLED

I find their review super biased and as usual the iPhone is overrated. Regarding battery well I expect it to take me through the day.
All in all the device looks really decent but I find both N900 and N8 to be serious competition - that if nokia would pay engadget and a few other tech sites the way apple does.