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ysss 2010-06-07 21:00

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
@kojacker: yea. At the end of the day, it's what the users get out of their purchase. Make them happy, then you'll be happy too.

mrojas 2010-06-07 21:03

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 704251)
Except that you can't say anything like that, since you don't know who is going to adopt MeeGo and what the devices they'll put it on are like.

Oh, it is just an example. If you read it again, you will notice I am actually describing the aluminium case of the Nokia N8, mixed with general info of the material itself.

wmarone 2010-06-07 21:09

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
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Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 704279)
Oh, it is just an example. If you read it again, you will notice I am actually describing the aluminium case of the Nokia N8, mixed with general info of the material itself.

Yeah but that has -nothing- to do with MeeGo and everything to do with the Nokia N8. MeeGo's talking points need to be directed towards hardware manufacturers.

- Widely used Qt toolkit - wide developer base, cross platform ease
- Industry standard *nix technologies - specialists and support abound
- Easy update distribution - push fixes quickly and automatically
- Active user community -if- you don't lock the device down ("like a bunch of jerks" but you don't say that to them directly.)

Only after this does the pitch to the end-user come into play, and that's entirely on the hardware vendor.

mrojas 2010-06-07 21:13

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 704295)
Yeah but that has -nothing- to do with MeeGo and everything to do with the Nokia N8. MeeGo's talking points need to be directed towards hardware manufacturers.

- Widely used Qt toolkit - wide developer base, cross platform ease
- Industry standard *nix technologies - specialists and support abound
- Easy update distribution - push fixes quickly and automatically
- Active user community -if- you don't lock the device down ("like a bunch of jerks" but you don't say that to them directly.)

Only after this does the pitch to the end-user come into play, and that's entirely on the hardware vendor.

If you have not noticed, I am not talking about MeeGo per se; because frankly right now I don't think there is not enough about it to talk that would impress end users. Hardware manufacturers are already interested.

My whole point of the example is how the marketing should be done; how to convert something simple as "it has an aluminium case" into something that sounds exciting and advanced. That's it.

benny1967 2010-06-07 21:16

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
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Originally Posted by kopte3 (Post 704169)
Problem with Nokia is that they don't know how to produce a hype.

That's not their problem, that's one of their strengths. I wouldn't buy anything hyped.

benny1967 2010-06-07 21:18

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 704124)
Now this is how Nokia market their video calling feature on the n97
" "

Video calling has been around for ages. - Marketing it on a device like the N97 would be like saying "Oh, wow, and it has SMS and you can even make phone calls with it!"

nosa101 2010-06-07 21:22

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 704311)
That's not their problem, that's one of their strengths. I wouldn't buy anything hyped.

But a lot of people do. People rarely do the homework before a purchase. Nokia needs to take advantage of that.

IMHO, the MeeGo phone needs to be the best Nokia has to offer. The camera should be equal or better than the n8. The interface should be better than the n900. It should be the nokia flagship. No excuses.

gerbick 2010-06-07 21:23

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 704311)
That's not their problem, that's one of their strengths. I wouldn't buy anything hyped.

You do know that you're not the typical consumer, right?

And I don't mean your love of ABBA either.

ysss 2010-06-07 21:29

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
Nokia needs to consider to have their flagship device come preloaded with ABBA. All problems will be gone.

wmarone 2010-06-07 21:31

Re: MeeGo Needs Some Talking Points
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 704335)
All problems will be gone.

Along with all of their customers, except benny1967.


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