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orbitalcomp 2007-06-05 21:18

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 51093)
Well, yes, but it is slightly more dangerous in the sense that if you flash wrong or incomplete kernel, you have device which doesn't boot and then you need to learn many relatively advanced things (i.e getting linux flasher working over usb) to get it working again. If you learn how to use nokia linux flasher before doing this, you just try again without any sweat. So basically with my flasher you can shoot yourself in the foot quite easily and then be surprised. But if everything goes ok (like kernel download being not corrupted or battery not going empty in the middle of flashing) it works just fine. In fact I need to implement at least kernel size checking to prevent incomplete kernels from flashing. It is in my TODO list for some time. I should do it or sooner or later someone may be very surprised.

I'm glad I wasn't surprised :-) I can see where it might end up being a problem for some, though.

One question - does that "becomeroot" .deb install stay in there permanently? Is it just a script that runs once when installed?

Mara 2007-06-07 01:12

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
As everybody knows the stock 3.2007 firmware does not support SDHC cards. I tested today my 8GB SDHC card on "yet to be released" stock firmware (4.2007... I don't remember the rest of the version number.) and the card was recognised right away. :) In other words there should not be need to wait to upgrade to next firmware due to missing SDHC support.

Anybody asking how did I get a hold on the 4.2007 firmware? I didn't. It was in my friends N800 who is the beta tester (True tester) of N800.

distguitar 2007-06-08 15:05

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
I'm a brand new user of n800. Just got it in the mail yesterday.
Already flashed with 3.2007-10-7 but unable to use my 8gig Patriot SD...
Any ideas? Instructions mention "reboot". I did a power-off and power-on. Perhaps I didn't do something right?
P.S. My build-in SD reader in Aspire 5102 doesn't recognize the card either. But digital camera took it no problem.

Milhouse 2007-06-08 15:11

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
After flashing the device with the 3.2007.10-1, have then need to update the stock Nokia kernel with the patched SDHC kernel - have you done this yet?

You probably need a new card reader as many card readers won't support SDHC.

distguitar 2007-06-08 15:19

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
No, I didn't realize I needed to do that! I just followed instructions for linux flashing of RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

I suppose I need to re-read the instructions!

There's suppose to be a hotfix for hcsd's for XP, but I wasn't able to locate it yet...

Milhouse 2007-06-08 15:41

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
I don't think it's a Windows software issue - in the case of card readers it appears to be a hardware/firmware issue, either the card reader supports SDHC or it does not. In my case I purchased a SanDisk 4GB SDHC card which came with an SDHC mini card reader and this works fine with my XP and Linux PCs, but my Belkin multi-card reader plugged into the same XP PC does not work with SDHC cards at all.

distguitar 2007-06-08 15:59

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
That's okay, I will invest into a new card reader later on. My main concern is to make n800 recognize it :) Strange how I missed a whole chunk of information. I thought that flashing was enough.

Milhouse 2007-06-08 16:13

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Hopefully the next firmware (due real soon now!) will support SDHC out of the box. :)

Karel Jansens 2007-06-08 17:08

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 51536)
Hopefully the next firmware (due real soon now!) will support SDHC out of the box. :)

Yeah... Monday, right? :p

Milhouse 2007-06-08 17:26

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 51546)
Yeah... Monday, right? :p

Where did you hear that? ;)

Karel Jansens 2007-06-08 18:00

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 51551)
Where did you hear that? ;)

Who, me? :rolleyes:

Mara 2007-06-08 19:29

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 51536)
Hopefully the next firmware (due real soon now!) will support SDHC out of the box. :)

Yes, it will unless Nokia decided to remove the SDHC support at last minute before releasing the new firmware to the public. Next Monday? ;) I think I read some thread where this date was discussed...

Pebkac 2007-06-10 07:03

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Greetings to all /wave.

I am a New N800 owner and linux user.

I have a fairly comfortable background with windows based pc's and their use.. but still cannot come to understanding some of the errors that i receive in Xterm when I am trying to flash to the SDHC support.

I know that the next firmware "may" have that support availaible out of the box.. and will make it "easy" for me.. that said.. I would still like to ride this horse of flashing with the:

kernel_flasher.tgz
sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin

Ok.. I have tried all the various walk-thru's and help files.. with no success.. I will continually get the "no such file or directory" or "Permission denied"

I will explain my process of install.. please correct me where I go wrong.

1) with N800 download the kernel_flasher.tgz, and sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin, to the "Mark's Nokia N800" directory (it appears to be the "root" directory like c:\)

2) I have downloaded / installed osso-xterm, and becomeroot. They are both visable in the installed applications in the Application manager.

3) I start the X terminal application from the "extras" folder, and it presents me with a small black screen (like command prompt) with.. ~ $ .. showing.

4) I then type: sudo gainroot to get root "access"... and I am then presented with.. /home/user/ #

5) I then type: cd MyDocs to get access to the documents folder i presume.. when I then type: ls -a .. I can then see my 2 files kernel_flasher.tgz, and sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin

6) I feel that I am in good shape and I'm gtg... so then I follow the directions listed here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi..._to_a_computer

Now here is where my problems start..

Now in /home/user/MyDocs
typing this command in Xterm produces this result:
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin . = /bin/sh: $: not found
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/kernel_flasher.tgz . = /bin/sh: $: not found

If i type the command.. ls in the /home/user/MyDocs directory.. I can see the files.. so then i go back to the /home/user directory and try again...

Now in /home/user
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin . = /bin/sh: $: not found
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/kernel_flasher.tgz . = /bin/sh: $: not found

I can see the files.. but xterm doesnt agree with me.

I can understand that the command is attempting to "copy" the files from one directory to another... but obviously is not working...

Ok so then I try a different approach..
back to the /home/user/MyDocs directory.. using this link now http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...7606#post37606

In the /home/user/MyDocs directory I place this command:
~/MyDocs $ tar zxvf kernel_flasher.tgz
and I receive:
/bin/sh: /home/user/MyDocs: Permission denied

And i just seem to go round and round with this... please assist me with the error of my ways.

Thank you.
Mark.

johsua 2007-06-10 07:19

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
After you gain root access you should have permission to untar/zip the file, so that last part is strange. The rest is a syntax error.

$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin . = /bin/sh: $: not found
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/to/kernel_flasher.tgz . = /bin/sh: $: not found


should read:

$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin .
$ cp /home/user/MyDocs/kernel_flasher.tgz .

The to was from /path/to which is a funny way of saying, using the directory path to your file. So your file is in /home/user/MyDocs/ so that is /path/to . It was meant to be generic, so the directions would not be dependent on where you saved the file. Be sure to be in your regular home directory when you do this if you follow the wiki directions. Hopefully we'll all be pleasently treated with an updated OS with SDHC support soon!!!

johsua 2007-06-10 07:29

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
And do not type the "$" in there. That is the prompt that xterm gives you.

Pebkac 2007-06-10 07:32

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Thank you for the quick reply..

Tried again with your syntax and still get the result: /bin/sh: $: not found

Thats from the /home/user directory..
Same result from the /home/user/MyDocs directory..

any other thoughts?

Thanks Joshua.

edit... hehe.. maybey its just late.. ok I performed the comand again without the $ and i appear to be copying the same file to the same directory as it is now telling me "are the same file" /doh.

perhaps i will try the flash without the $ sign now..
just a sec..

Pebkac 2007-06-10 07:47

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
It worked..

I.. i suppose like many newbs were following all the commands in the example... even to the point of typing in the $ or ~ "root symbols".. bah..

once you have the:
kernel_flasher.tgz (unzipped so that it just says kernel_flasher)
sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin

in the /home/user/MyDocs directory..
just then type this
./kernel_flasher/kernel_flash sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin

and presto it works... i was typing in too much crap.:eek:
the 8gb Patriot class4 card is recognized and usable now.

Thanks Joshua.. you cleared the fog for me. :)

Ima tard.
Mark.

johsua 2007-06-10 12:32

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebkac (Post 51693)
It worked..


Ima tard.
Mark.

No you are not. Linux commands are not intuitive - it's something you have to use for a little while to get used to. Not to nitpick, but it does state in the wiki to not type the $. ;-) BTW - I have the same card as you. I have yet to fill it! Enjoy, and I will "see" you around here more I am sure.

cheers

distguitar 2007-06-18 03:02

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Khm,
I just realized that n800 sees only 2gigs of my 8gig external SD card... Is this a formatting issue or what?

Update: Just forgot to re-format it. Nevermind!

Nik1 2007-06-24 01:12

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
I've followed the wiki, but I cant get the files recognized. You mind giving a short tutorial for what I must input and only input , in the simplest form, as I think im putting unnecessary things (not $). Thanks.

Nik1 2007-06-26 03:18

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
I input: ./kernel_flasher/kernel_flash sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin but I keep getting the message: /bin/sh: ./kernel_flasher/kernel_flash: not found

Pebkac 2007-06-28 05:50

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
I was confused about that as well.. this should clear it up

download these 2 items to the documents folder you see on the N800

kernel_flasher.tgz
sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin


then start xterm
then type sudo gainroot

now type cd MyDocs
now type cd .documents

you are now in the /home/user/MyDocs/.documents directory.

Now type ls -a
and you will see your 2 downloaded items in the list. (just to verify they are there)

now type tar -zxf kernel_flasher.tgz to unzip the flasher..
now type ./kernel_flasher/kernel_flash sdhc-kernel-3.2007.10.bin

you are in good shape because you will now see a prompt asking you IF you want to flash..

now type yes

and watch the sparks fly.... when the flash completes... close down xterm by typing exit ...and then reboot.. walla!... your gtg.

like myself.. you are probably typing in too many extra items in the syntax of the command.. just copy and paste what is shown in RED here.

Use these instructions from http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi..._to_a_computer to automatically install the needed items to get this done. (click the small icon to the right of the number shown in each step)

these steps as illustrated here worked perfectly for me.

/N800 for teh win.

Nik1 2007-06-29 04:19

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
It works perfectly, thanks for the tutorial, it really cleared up a lot of confusion I had. :)

fanoush 2007-06-29 08:15

Re: SDHC Support for 3.2007.10-7 has arrived
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebkac (Post 54438)
I was confused about that as well.. this should clear it up
....

You may simplify the wiki page and copy your instructions there. I was already giving such specific instructions (see http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...7606#post37606 or the posts linked from wiki page) and then immediately came someone who didn't follow instructions precisely, downloaded it somewhere else and complained. That's why the wiki page is generic with the download target but this makes it more confusing in the end. You simply can't satisfy all newbies no matter how hard you try, they are very creative in ways how to do it in a wrong way :-)


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