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abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:06
Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 725572)
As long as the closed components can be redistributed (I think that is the case) then we should get a fully functioning device.

@smoku: I'm glad you started this thread I thought I was being paranoid when I was reading the developer's mailing list.

For an open-source project they seem very protective of any information and a very closed-knitted bunch.

I'm skeptical of the "openess" of the project and waiting to see what happens with the next release.
This is what is wrong and is all thanks to Nokia (maybe).

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:08
Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 1024288)
At least 5, on top of the others working on MeeGo core.

But you'd know that if you paid attention to the project instead of blindly badmouthing them.
Ok then well as far as i see it it is a good job i am not the troubleshooter on this project because frankly i would get them all out and a new team in !.

Something is wrong here and i am trying to get to the bottom of it.

NB i want to know why after all this developing time it has not moved more than maybe a few days work, now either Nokia is binding things here or......

EDIT please note i am only talking about the N900 adaption.

godofwar424 2011-06-07 16:17
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Anti climax here guys :(

Second time and all I am getting is a black background and a purple square in the top left corner and moved slightly when I tap it and does NOTHING else :(

@smoku

Do you have an N900 to attempt your builds on?

mrsellout 2011-06-07 16:21
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1024212)
Well after bout 4 minutes the DE got me to the desktop then took another minute to respond to me pressing the menu icon..

Off to a great speedy start.. Sarcasm intended :P
I need to pull you up here. The first boot of MeeGo is <b>always</b> slow. (Read the note at the bottom here It wouldn't matter which UI is used. Once the first-boot processes have been run, things start speeding up. It wouldn't make sense to waste server space shipping files that the phone can build itself on first-boot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1024240)
This is what got me and i dont know what smoku felt but my god he could have at least thanked him for his efforts !.

NB i am really having to hold my fingers here because i don't think is a good idea to say what i want to say !.
abill_uk I don't want to continue to go off-topic here but I need to point this out. Your comments are either malicious or highlight your naivety. Read up on the relevant issues and if you think you can do better roll up your sleeves and muck in. All you are doing here is taking this thread OT and detracting from smoku's fine work.

Don't bother replying as I wont - this thread is too far OT as it is.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:21
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1024302)
Anti climax here guys :(

Second time and all I am getting is a black background and a purple square in the top left corner and moved slightly when I tap it and does NOTHING else :(

@smoku

Do you have an N900 to attempt your builds on?
Could you give your honest opinion of the MeeGo "build" so far? i am not on about smoku's work.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:24
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1024305)
I need to pull you up here. The first boot of MeeGo is <b>always</b> slow. (Read the note at the bottom here It wouldn't matter which UI is used. Once the first-boot processes have been run, things start speeding up. It wouldn't make sense to waste server space shipping files that the phone can build itself on first-boot.



abill_uk I don't want to continue to go off-topic here but I need to point this out. Your comments are either malicious or highlight your naivety. Read up on the relevant issues and if you think you can do better roll up your sleeves and muck in. All you are doing here is taking this thread OT and detracting from smoku's fine work.

Don't bother replying as I wont - this thread is too far OT as it is.
Already done that as i have had a good look now at the whole project todate.
Nothing "malicious" here i am trying to help believe it or not.

mrsellout 2011-06-07 16:26
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1024302)
Anti climax here guys :(

Second time and all I am getting is a black background and a purple square in the top left corner and moved slightly when I tap it and does NOTHING else :(

@smoku

Do you have an N900 to attempt your builds on?
Try using ssh to get in and reboot the device. Sometimes it's a bit random whether or not it starts up properly.

You'll probably have to rewrite your sd card anyway, when I tried uninstalling hildon-desktop, it removed that package and nothing else. On restart (I had changed the uxlaunch line back to mcompositor) it launches into the dialler app which keeps restarting when you close it and it wasn't possible to ssh in.

godofwar424 2011-06-07 16:28
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1024305)
I need to pull you up here. The first boot of MeeGo is <b>always</b> slow. (Read the note at the bottom here It wouldn't matter which UI is used. Once the first-boot processes have been run, things start speeding up. It wouldn't make sense to waste server space shipping files that the phone can build itself on first-boot.
Yeah I know :P

Was just making a joke :P

godofwar424 2011-06-07 16:32
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1024306)
Could you give your honest opinion of the MeeGo "build" so far? i am not on about smoku's work.
Its alright tbh, its usable. The slowness is ONLY due to the fact that I am booting from a MicroSD Card and the N900 only has 256MB of RAM so running an OS purely from the RAM and then reading/writing to a MicroSD card is gonna be 200x slower then having it run off of the actual flash memory Maemo 5 runs from :(

Its not usable enough atm for me to even consider flashing the eMMC with it and using it as my main os instead of Maemo 5. Maybe if I had a second device I would flash MeeGo DE onto the eMMC and then play around with it alot more.

The icons are really basic and kinda blocky but tbh in a development build who cares about icons :P

The functionality is more or less there, just needs alot of UX fine tuning and much more keyboard support withing apps like x-terminal and also to respond to the keyboard opening and unlock the device :P

Otherwise its pretty alright to use :)

mrsellout 2011-06-07 16:35
Re: Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 
@smoku

There are a couple of unmet dependencies when installing hildon-desktop - gnome-mime-data and sound-theme-freedesktop
Code:
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

Problem: nothing provides sound-theme-freedesktop needed by libcanberra-0.25-1.7.armv7hl
 Solution 1: do not install hildon-desktop-2.2.141c-10.8.DE.armv7hl
 Solution 2: break libcanberra by ignoring some of its dependencies

Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): 2
Resolving dependencies...
Resolving package dependencies...

Problem: nothing provides gnome-mime-data >= 2.0.0-11 needed by gnome-vfs2-2.24.3-3.4.armv7hl
 Solution 1: do not install hildon-desktop-2.2.141c-10.8.DE.armv7hl
 Solution 2: break gnome-vfs2 by ignoring some of its dependencies

Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): 2
Resolving dependencies...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
  gnome-menus gnome-vfs2 hildon-desktop libcanberra libhildon libhildondesktop


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