Re: why the nokia n900 missed many things ??
 

... I just want to add one thing, the N900 is being mistakenly sold as a phone and not the Step 4 out of 5 experimental Tablet with Phone capabilities in MANY countries including the US, therefore people buys it thinking that it's a new powerful Nokia phone that has all the features that every other Nokia phone has plus many more, only we find out that it's missing lots and lots of features including the most basic ones.

It's not the people's fault. Sure people should research what they're going to buy, but many people don't and that could be because of many reasons like trusting Nokia for example... etc.. So it's Nokia's fault for the false advertisement (Nokia Marketing), yes Nokia did say that the N900 is step 4 out of 5 in Maemo Summit, but you can't expect many people to know about that _especially_ when it gets marketted otherwise later on...

And, wtf with all the silence about the future of the N900, who are they hiding secrets from? Is there another company out there that's going to benefit from N900's news if they were told by Nokia somehow? No. So why play childish games and hide ino about support and update on the N900...

And speaking of updates, I don't want MeeGo on the N900 but at least, add thos missing features to Maemo 5 and fix those damn annoying bugs, and stop freakin experimenting on us!

I love this device and I love Nokia! But I hate their officials for taking so many bad steps... It's been said by someone before, Nokia is trying so hard to lose customers.. It's amazing how they can do that and then praise themselves about it.. And no not talking about their hardware or software, but their PR (Public Relations) which sucks so bad!

So I am not trusting Nokia anymore and nobody should, until they start being clear about their actions and actually open up a bit and stop being so quiet about everything their doing... Best thing to do from now on is to actually wait about 6 months from the release of a new device and see how it's being supported then buy it.. :)

Anyways, had to vent a little bit as I am a bit pissed off at Nokia.. lol..

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I guess many newcomers don't expect the step 4 to be such a dead-end.... there are not many commercial apps let alone useful ones, many things have to wait till Harmattan to be fixed but then it will not be officially ported to N900. Well, in hindsight all are not surprising considering Maemo's past records.

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I switched to Sony Ericsson after Nokia 6600 and 7610, the Sony ericcson was always the best for me I loved the Walkman,camera and the design of all phones that I used but then i waited so long to buy a perfect device with the best technology, to feel better when ever i use it.
So sad i was impressed by Nokia N900.

No folder option , no portrait mode , lack of apps...

Iphone 4 is the best to wait for.

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What do you mean by "no folder" option?

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Does the iPhone 4 have landscape mode?

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Don't know why, ask Nokia...but I do miss several things on it:

- HDMI TV Out
- Flash 10.1
- USB Host Mode (Keyboard, Flashdrive, Mouse)
- Portrait Keyboard
- More paid apps
- 720p WMV/Divx/Xvid playback

... that's about it. Other than that it is a great replacement for a netbook.

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i emailed this to nokia bout a week ago through the europe site..
mea gave the typical response that sorry for inconvenience etc etc ********
and europe didnt answer.. its been a week..
here it goes

as far as i'm proud to admit, nokia has never given satisfactory support to any of its consumers or old products.. as soon as a new product comes along, the old ones are completely forgotten..
happened to 5800 with the scrolling issue and random freezes and now n900..
ok sure.. missing features like ussd.. but heck?
say callers name?
thats a primitive feature present in almost every mobile phone..
sure it took u almost 3 months to fix the ussd along with several bugs but why call off product support?
isn't nokia working with other companies for meego development?
why cant nokia itself take official part in the development for the drivers of the closed components? what about flash 10?
is it ever coming?
maemo 6?
does this happen to all of your products?
i've personally have had many issues with the 5800.. and i've seen others with n97 have issues too.. and n81? the camera issue? "feature not supported?"
and n900 has violated privacy with the "my nokia" service which is not needed by many and sends an international text message without permission of the owner and own his own expense..
and sure, your reply is going to be "will be fixed in next firmware".. plz.. do tell.. how many years do i have to wait for that new firmware?
and why is the n900 soo laggy?
everyone has overclocked the device up to 1000mhz.. why cant that be official? till now, no one has had issues with it..
why cant the builtin media player stream from youtube?
why is the community working at features like host mode without nokia's contribution?
wont the precess speed up if the professions play a role?
why is nokia's one of the best smart phones missing voice navigation?
why can others make 3rd party softwares to introduce missing features which work rather then nokia officially bringing them with the firmware itself?
and facebook? why not msn or yahoo?
sure i can install external plugins but then i'll have to sync all the contacts all over again..
and arent msn and yahoo only as popular as facebook chat?
i'd love to see your reply..
its interesting to see how someone can lack dignity like that..

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Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.



In regards to you enquiry, we sincerely regret to hear that you are facing issues with the Nokia N900 and apologize for any inconvenience caused. Kindly be advise that Nokia is always committed to resolve issues the customers maybe facing some of which can only be resolved by taking in the device to Nokia service points.



However, kindly be informed that some of the applications and services for the Nokia N900 you are currently enquiring about are already available in the below link http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ which has special applications for Maemo devices such as the N900.



Unfortunately, the current version of Maemo, the software that powers the N900, does not support navigation. With Maemo 5 we prioritized development of those areas that we felt would be the most important for the target audience of this device. This means that Maemo does not yet feature support for the full range of services that our other Symbian-powered Nseries devices might have. However, naturally, we’ll be working to increase support for all Nokia services, including navigation, as we go forward with Maemo.



Please be informed that the Nokia N900 latest firmware is 10.*.* so if you haven’t got this version then I would recommend you to update.



Should you have any further enquiries, or if we can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline via http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.





“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”





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I would answer but my eyes hurt and I can't read that

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jus read the main part geez
rest is jus formality for the care center thingy

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Okay, when have Nokia stated they're not going to contiue support of the N900? No one here can truely no what is going on there and what is going to happen. When have Nokia, ever, suggested roadmaps for updates for any other handsets they've produced, why do you expect it now? Open source does not mean corporate transparency when it comes to product support.

The N900 has always been intended to be step 4/5 if you managed to buy the product, without seeing that, then you didn't look hard enough. It's mentioned every where.

Rather than ***** about Nokia support and the apparent N900 apocolypse you all seem so sure has happened. Why can't you just request the functionality you require/need/cream-yourself-about, we have a good developer community that thrive on innovative ideas and in a lot of cases are looking for something interesting to do in our spare time (I for one).

It just seems extremely idiotic to me, that people talk about what Nokias plans are in regards to something they barely have any understanding of, both pre and post purchase. You're unhappy that the device doesn't do certain things you expected of it, okay you should have read the specs and seen it as a feature list rather than a few highlighted elements.

Stop crying, start contributing. We want ideas and innovation the N900 is a long way from being dead, you don't need to be a hacker. Your ideas and thoughts, if well formed and not rants will be accepted by the community with open handedness, afterall, that is what this community is about and has always been about.

We have always had to adapt around Nokias corporate policies, it's not new. With the N900 we do it less.

P.S. To me, the N900 is like a dot-to-dot picture, we can sketch in whatever wonderful details and colours we choose. No other handset allows this, you want feature "X", lets do it, but show every other vendor and Nokia how it should be done.

Tom

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mate - ignore everyone else on this thread and just know this:

IF you are not happy with the N900 as it is NOW (i.e. you are disappointed if there is NO MORE FUTURE support from Nokia OR from the community from today onwards) then SELL the N900 and get another phone which is actively supported by its parent company.

Otherwise you will be constantly disappointed and unhappy with your phone which you . Might as well bite the bullet now while you still have some resale value to get a phone that DOES serve your needs.

At the moment, the N900 is NOT Nokia's priority (in fact it is at its very bottom of its priorities) - while Nokia has not officially "abandoned" the N900, based on past behaviour (ask any n8xx and n7xx owner) and its current behaviour of absolute silence on missing features/support (flash 10, Ovi store, Ovi maps etc) and future updates, it is pretty much clear that the phone has now gone into the community's hands (see Meego port) for future support.

If you need a phone that "just works" with many of the consumer phone features you listed, then the N900 is NOT the phone for you - this is a phone for hackers/coders/technical ppl who like to spend time tinkering/fixing/overclocking their phones. i.e. if you dont like reflashing your phone or tinkering around with the terminal etc, then this phone is not for you.

Instead , SELL your N900 and consider other brands of phones which do provide the features you need and is actively supported by its parent company; consider any monetary loss as a lesson that corporate spin (ESPECIALLY from NOKIA in the future) is not to be trusted.

Note: This is not your fault - Nokia's marketing spin on this phone has been very deceptive (I bought it on the "internet multimedia tablet" premise only to now find flash 10.1 is most likely not coming, which blocks me from accessing many services, such as google street view, on the web in the future).

Just consider this a lesson and move on. Life is too short to be do otherwise.

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@Frappacino - This is not the 770 or either of the N8x0 series. It has sold so many more than those devices, it was pushed because they believe in the product. It has recently been officially released in China and India, because they still believe in the device. Stop guessing at Nokia's intentions and spreading FUD, it's not productive at all.

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I still miss some very important features on my N900: it really sucks as a can opener, and it doesn't do coffee!

Yes, it doesn't have the ability to use different ringtones for different callers. I miss this feature a little, but it is not critical for me. When I talked with other people about the phone and mentioned these missing features, most of them weren't really bothered by this (or, as one of my friends put it: I'm more worried about being able to know it is my own phone ringing, and not someone else's).

The funny thing is, some of the missing features people complain about are things that top-of-the-line iPhones still can't do, and nobody really cares. iPhones cannot take pictures while making a phone-call. The don't have this little feature called multi-tasking. I can listen to music while walking and counting my steps with the pedometer, and occasionally browse the web, and all this while skype is running in the background. In the meanwhile, even with iOS4, iPhones and its long promised "multi-tasking" (sorta) feature, you still cannot run skype in the background while doing something else, at least not until there's a new version of skype that uses iOS4's "sorta-multi-tasking" ability.

And just to make it clear: I'm not trying to argue that iPhone is an inferior product. It is a fine product that really fits what some people need, but not me. I'm talking about the iPhone just as a point of reference, to point out that even this device doesn't do a lot of things people used to do with their old phones, and for some reason I don't hear as many complaints about it.

The Nokia N900 got its pluses and minuses, just like any other device. Personally, for me its pluses far outweigh its minuses and I wouldn't replace it with any other device on the market today. But to each its own.

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ussd
it was fixed in the next firmware, yes but it took 3 months
and they called off support, isnt that the reason why we may not get flash 10?
nokia working with intel on meego.. meego for n900 DUH
the nokia is taking part in the development but the support isnt official
so the delevopment will take time, if it was official, they'll have the drivers already
yes, meego-harmattan, thats what i was refering to when i said called off support
and oh, fyi, there are multiple companies working on it.. even bmw.. the origins are from nokia and intel.. contribution is from many companies
no it doesnt, havent been proven yet and the chip is capable of going upto 1ghz..
otherwise, it would have burned out already.. thats almost double
builtin as in with the firmware.. installed isnt builtin
qt?
voice navigations isnt in graphic ui
and they already got turn by turn navigation
fMMS is not builtin!!
and oh.. u dont use it, i do..
and others do..

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drivers for NIToid or whatever and meego..
can u develop them?
go ahead.. contribute..

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thats what i'm talking bout mate..
nokia calls off support or gives low piority to old products..
and sell it off aint an option.. it'll go off for lesser than half the price i bought it for.. -__-

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doesnt matter, they do the same to all the mobiles

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fun part bout iphone, if the os gets an update, all the models get it too.. only things that are not added are hardware limitations..
like 3g and 3gs

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IMHO, it hit exactly what it aimed at.

Now, why that isn't what most people want is a different question.

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And your question is what???????????????

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And first gen is dead, now. no iOS for you. But the actual platform build out arc from nothing to now was planned before the first unit hit the ground - single product, three years. Nice if you can pull it off.

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how old is first gen?
how old is n900?
and another fun part about iphone, never seen a bug..
no random shutdowns *alot on 5800/n95/n97* and its fast and doesnt get stuck *n95 was good in that matter, but n97 and 5800, dunno what the f*ck nokia did.. :S

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Well, some of you are mean, some funny, and others just need to get a life. I upgraded from a Palm OS5 Treo 755P. It was a great device but after 3 years and one update (which made it worse so I rolled it back) the hardware was outdated. I love my N900. It has a really good phone app on top of the great micro computer. I actually think some of the "improvements" in PR1.2 are unnecessary but I know others felt they were really needed. The community has done so much I just wish I were able to contribute more. I do wish navigation was better but I don't need it as I learned how to read maps 3+ decades ago. OK I'm rambling, but this thing is fun, and it only takes a few hours to completely rodo if I f*** it up. My Vista machine takes me 4-5 days. lol

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I really want to reply your last post fahadj but again it's all over the place

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open up note pad and start answering there..
when ure done, copy paste..

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You should buy an iPhone.

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lol
yea
and u should pay for it :|