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geneven 2007-04-11 13:34

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
I enjoyed printing fast on a Palm. It just doesn't work for me on the N800. I have dreamed about dropping in Graffiti so I could use its shapes on the N800.

Eventually, text-to-speech will be workable and fast on these things. Writers sitting on the beach in the moonlight and telling their stories to a small computer will become a cliche.

Karel Jansens 2007-04-11 13:53

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 43758)
I enjoyed printing fast on a Palm. It just doesn't work for me on the N800. I have dreamed about dropping in Graffiti so I could use its shapes on the N800.

Eventually, text-to-speech will be workable and fast on these things. Writers sitting on the beach in the moonlight and telling their stories to a small computer will become a cliche.

TTS is one of those things almost everybody thinks will be the future of computer input -- until you actually try it and discover how counter-intuitive it really is with today's user interfaces. E.g.: Try to formulate a well-structured document on voice only. You'd need to pre-compose about a gazillion voice macros to get everything done.

What would really rock however, is a NLUI, a Natural Language User Interface, where you could interact with a computer basically the same way you interact with other human beings, using normal, everyday language and fuzzy logic. Like telling the computer: "Find me a song I ripped to ogg about a week ago. It's by Led Zeppelin", rather than typing, scribbling or wording a list of arcane command sequences or spending hours mousing through directories.

Such a user interface would always work, regardless of the input method used. We've still got a long way to go though...

luketoh 2007-04-11 14:28

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Have you guys watched Wild Hogs? There's a funny part in the movie that deals with NLUI. :)

sdrman 2007-04-11 15:32

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Anyone notice that the handwriting input changes colors in the new firmware?
I think it works better now, as long as I space letters far enouqh apart.

EDIT: Color change happens only with vista theme.

Karel Jansens 2007-04-11 16:19

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luketoh (Post 43763)
Have you guys watched Wild Hogs? There's a funny part in the movie that deals with NLUI. :)

A swine movie?

Karel Jansens 2007-04-11 16:20

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdrman (Post 43773)
Anyone notice that the handwriting input changes colors in the new firmware?
I think it works better now, as long as I space letters far enouqh apart.

I did notice a small recognition improvement.The problem with my "r"s deleting previous letters persists though.

And I see it hasn't grasped your "g"s yet either. :rolleyes:

azule 2007-04-11 20:42

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Having something like grafiti for the N800 would be ideal.. back in the day i was crazy fast on my palm.

ArnimS 2007-04-14 15:54

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gisborne (Post 43583)
If Nokia really intended this thing to be an "Internet Tablet", they should have got on board with the Internet being a two-way medium. ie they should have put a keyboard (or decent HWR; ideally both) on this thing.

I really shouldn't reply to a 'they didn't build what i wanted!' rant, but anwyay...

They put bluetooth in it, so you can purchase the keyboard of your choice, rather than being locked into whatever hardware is built-in. Thus, rather than having *a* hardware keyboard, which 30% will like and 70% will hate - the 770/800 have *many* keyboard options, including none.

That's not to say that something like a treo or an old-style zaurus form-factor wouldn't be a nice addition. It'd be really nice to see more hardware options that run the same apps and maemo OS.

How about a maemo-based phone, even smaller-than 770, with a front that's only the 800x480 screen (like the iPhone) but oriented in portrait mode (vertically), including side mounted buttons placed directly under natural finger placement.

Nokia is now in a position where it can leverage their investement in maemo, and the contributions of the maemo community, to power a variety of future devices and form factors. Maemo+770/800 is a great start, but to get better, it needs more users, more developers, more mind and market share.

... I seem to have strayed from my original brief, but in summary: Sex is more fun than Logic...

gisborne 2007-04-14 21:23

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
You can't use a BT keyboard standing up. But I already mentioned that.

phi 2007-04-14 23:30

Re: Not "Internet Tablet". "Online Document Viewer"
 
i'd be all for a attachable thumbboard that used bluetooth to connect. would've worked better with the 770 form factor.


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