Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Meego is here for N900.
there is subtitle support.
for camera try blessn900 (http://www.blessn900.com/)
game - all u need to play is angry birds.
subtitle support is there search for "subtitle" in extras repository.
"tweak flash plugin version" for flash 10.1

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Couldn't have said it better. OP can't handle the raw power given by the N900. Please, sell your poor N900 to someone that use it for better things than playing mp3, then move on with your iCrap.

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

I used to think i got screwed by Nokia after getting the N900.
Now i've learnt to be contempt and accept that its one of the best phones in the market. My girlfriend just upgraded to the Iphone4. Apart from the app store, the phone is a joke. I've played with android phones, they are good but not good enough for me.

If the N900 had a vibrant app store, then the phone would be amazing. I like the games and apps that apple and android have, besides that i'm not interested. The only thing that could make my N900 better is more commercial apps, but if it doesn't happen then i'll accept being niche.

Besides i like when people see my phone and think i'm carrying around a portable tv :D

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Well, with the amount of space and Mplayer, it practically is a TV. You just need to get your content from certain *ahem* drm-free sources.

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I hate Apple more than anyone out there but think it is a bit silly the way the fanboys on this site say things lik iphone is crap and all that.

If it is doing so well it is because it actually offers something people want. We may have no interest on it but I don't think we can honestly say to ourselves that tens of millions are buying crap and at so much cost.

If we were honest with ourselves we would say it is a good device which has things the mass market is interested in (ease of use, tons of apps, works well). However, we are not interested in it because we don't want to be told what we can do with our device, we want to modify the device, we don't want to pay for ringtones when we already have the mp3, we want a keyboard, etc.

When we say iphone is crap all we are doing is:

1. Lying to ourselves; or
2. Showing that we are real fan boys who lack the ability to be objective

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Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Most of the reasons... If I don't say all of em... Are BS

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Actually, with WorldTV99, it is a TV. What you describe sounds more like a portable media player.

Also, that adds nicely to what you can do while at the toilet. Watch live TV.

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FALSE. Precisely what we are doing is being objective. We are not buying into the "magical" marketing hype.

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a Church of Steve membership, with implied coolness and extra high m-2-m attractiveness.

Functionality wise, the Iphone is not that impressive. In many ways the Iphone is the opposite of the N900. If the N900 values are important to you, the Iphone probably seems to be about as underfeatured as a phone can be. If the Iphone values are important to you, the N900 probably seems about as unfinished as a phone can be. So, if you're at either end of the scale, the other phone actually IS crap, in your evaluation.

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While you use your as an mp3 player in the toilet, I for once open up the browser go to tvcatchup.com and use it as a TV ( in the toilet)....and that`s only one of the many things I use my N900 for....while I sit down I VPN to my computer and play some mp3s remotely just to be entertained....at the end I sit there for so long that I cannot feel my legs!.....and you just use it as an mp3 player?....what can I say.....

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Ok, I must be honest to myself. I love Apple more than anyone does, but I still think iPhone sucks.

I hate Nokia more than anyone does, but I love N900.

Deal with it. We understand you've bought a defective N900 and the Nokia Care centre gave you a bad time, but it isn't worth it to keep wasting your time trying to deflect people from their love of N900 just to get back at Nokia.

You should learn to accept failure in your life and move on. It does you no good to waste your time here. Go, iPhone community needs you, we'll miss you.

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Hi

If i may be so bold i would like to disagree.

Hopefully you can see from my previous posts that i am an ojective poster. However i am not an entirely objective person. Nobody is.

I constantly use analogies so apologies if it becomes tiresome. Consider films. You and a group of people sit and watch a rom-com. It may be well acted and thoughtful, but too slow paced or mushy for your particular taste.
Answer honestly, do you, whilst discussing the film straight afterwards say to your friends.
a) Although the characters were well developed, and the interpersonal relationships between the main characters was poignant and enlightening. I felt the journey they tried to take me on didn't move at a quick enough pace and thus i don't think this film is for me, however i do appreciate how other people could like it if they were interested in......
b) that was crap.

They're the same thing. But obviosuly one is less likely to be ridiculed (decide for yourself which one that is lol)

Whenever i read IPhone "is crap" i supplement it with "is not for me". It makes me feel less obliged to post rebuttals.

Regards

Stefan

EDIT: Volt's post at the bottom of the previous page is similar to this. Must have been posted whilst i was typing.

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

This whole argument is a bit silly. I'm sure it's the same over on the Dodge Charger forum site, where Charger fanboys slag off Mustangs, or something. We are biased towards the N900 because we chose to buy it in the first place, we shelled out $450, and most of us aren't tied up with the rip-off merchants, AT&T. The iPhone is a commercial success, but part of the whole reason we didn't buy it is because us N900 owners like something different. And let's face it, Nokia is not doing so well these days in the mobile phone market. They're the underdog, and it's always nice to rally around (this forum) and be supportive.

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See everything you have posted here is so wrong I don't know where to start.

But let me start by saying I love my N900. Every single day without it is torturing me. It happens to be a great device but unfortunately made by a useless company. I was using my N900 for 3 months without a usb port and had to send it in cause I bricked my device and needed usb port to reflash. How did I brick my device? I got addicted to modding and didn't know when to stop. Unfortunately I eventually I modified a file which meant the device got stuck on the Nokia boot screen. My wife warned me for months to stop messing around with the N900 but it was just so amazing I could not stop.

I have been without N900 for over a month and still come here everyday looking for latest developments and have list of things I have to try out when I finally get N900 back (swappolube, theme customizer, fast modding script being top of the list). Everyday without my N900 I am cursing Nokia for depriving me of my darling N900.

Have to add that before I started modding my device I actually hated it because of its tons of bugs and lacking features. However, modding makes up for that and a lot of the mods fix some of the bugs (such as overclocking helping with my web browsing where I used to have to constantly deal with grid lines).

Now some of you have responded to say you are being objective when you say the iphone is crap. Sorry but what you have described is not objective it is absolutely subjective. It is crap for you. Do you really think tens of millions are buying it because Steve Jobs told them it is amazing? Yes Apple marketing helps but this may be news to you millions of people love the iphone and if you gave 20 million people an iphone and N900 more people would actually prefer the iphone even if it was made by HTC let's say. Or they had never heard of Apple.

What you think of a device is not objective, it is the exact definition of subjective. If you are unable to realise that something a vast number of people love is a good device (for them) just because you hate it that means you are incapable of being objective.

Look at Wii for example. Many fans of HD gaming absolutely absolutely hate it and think it is a piece of crap. However, it is Nintendo's best selling home console ever and is loved by tons. That an Xbox 360 fan thinks it is worth less than **** does not make it a crap device. It is only crap to him. That is his subjective view. An objective view would tell him that though he hates it, the fact that so many actually love it means it is a good device (for others).

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

bing! how many threads with the theme GoodBye n900, Hello (your smartphone here)? i want to count but NVM.

well in any case, i have an Android device and gonna get another one this October.

but to tell you, i usually get new phones/devices and sell/trade my old one, but with the exception of the n900, I already had 2 smartphones after the n900 but its still with me.......:D

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Man you should type any letter in appstore and you'll get tons of apps based on that particular catagory. E.g i also have kmplayer and worldtv on my 900 but htere is HDTV , Live TV, tv.nu, mtstv etc also available for iphone. With rez of the screen bordering HD comparing teh video quality of n900 to iphone 4 is day and night. While my N900 is overclocked to 1.1ghz, it's stutters and grinds to halt when i try applicataion manager . Also regular browsing scrolling is filled with hiccups and stutters> true i've some widgets on the desktops as well but again i'd rather use a nifty device as a main device than some jack of all master of none which takes more than a few secs to accept a call.

Also since you fanboys are at it, i was one of those who installed NITDROID the manual way, way before they made the installer for it so dont tell me N900 is not for me. We get one tower defence game on this and there are 100s of games liek that on iphone including Star Wars Battle of HOTH. Gameloft has gone crazy on iphone with Call of duty series for it.

I'm not gonna argue but i think i'm in better position to comment about both phones than your one sided experience with N900. And to let you know i never liked apple products and never used one before this. I got this off ebay to sell it off in my country since the prices were ridiculous and i thot i could make a quick buck. But within a day of use i dint 'want to let it go even though it's 16gb version and with 50+ apps on it im left with only 3~4 gb. That's 3 weeks of use compared to almost a year's use of N900 having 23GB internal and 5.6gb on external (bal for NIT) still free. How i wish iphone could use my 8GB class 6 i installed NIT on. That's the only negative thing about iphone .

If u guys want to site your opinion do it when you have both teh products not your utter fanboism.

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Why are you posting here, seriously? To troll? To try and convince us that the N900 is bad and we should buy an iPhone?

Until Jobs and Apple stop insisting that they own every iPhone even after sale, I'm going to continue ignoring them. And you should stop, this isn't an iPhone forum. Nothing good will come from continued attacks against the people here or the N900.

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I don't think he's attacking us necessarily, I think he's just defending himself and his opinion, and he has every right to do that. It's a silly argument about preference, and in those games NOBODY wins/concedes. It's like the IT guys at work who argue CONSTANTLY about which is better, OSX or Win7. It's a never-ending bore-fest for the rest of us! Each has their merits and faults. I've had my N900 for 2 days now, and totally regret waiting this long, I think it's awesome. But I'm not about to point and laugh deridingly at my mate's iPhone in the pub tonight. And if he points and laughs at my N900, I'll just plop his iPhone into his pint of girlie light beer.

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Of course everyone has a right to their opinion, but what is the point of talking about how awesome your iphone is on a Maemo forum? Believe me, the response would be equally venomous if I went on an iphone forum talking about how awesome my n900 is.

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Ha ha, could you imagine?! Most of those iPhone owners probably wouldn't even know what you were talking about. Actually, one of my close friends saw my N900 yesterday and said, "is that an iPhone?" to which I said, "no, it's a Nokia N900." He looked at me as if I'd just told him I'd spent $450 on a pre-owned clamshell from 2003. "why didn't you get an iPhone?" he asked me, to which I replied, "I want a physical keyboard and I hate AT&T." So then he says, "So why not an Android, like the new G2?" My response sounded a bit cheesy, but I stand by it: "Because I've always trusted and enjoyed Nokia phones and this one has done nothing but impress me so far, and I'm not interested in trawling through 50,000 apps just to find the 12 that I will actually use". He just shrugged his shoulders, totally unconvinced. Another ignoramus!

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.....and how much did you pay for your Godly iphone?I got mine second hand for 250 (pounds) back in February....'value for money' is not a synonym with apple, try to get an iphone4 with that amount....plus,you have to PAY for your 'wonderful' apps, that`s the big difference with the N900, plus it`s expandability....just today Meego was announced for it....that is why I don`t go Apple crazed.....and because of the stubborness of Mr. jobs not to include Flash or at least give the freedom of open cource to it`s phone.....anyways, enough blabing for today

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I bought my N900 for 600$ back in jan 2010. Expecting it to be a bemoeth of a PDA but alas it's a tinkering toy for the nerds like us but not really practicle. Bought my iP4 for $735 back in sept off ebay, unlocked and Jailbroken.

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When I was trying to decide between iPhone/Nexus One/N900 I was glad to see threads like this one. I spent weeks doing my homework, comparing features, sniffing out the real problems that real users have with it.

Threads like this fill an important niche. Some people really do want to know what they're in for, and threads like this are a good place to hear real complaints. Plus, for the first three pages of every one of these threads, every other post tells 3 easy fixes for each of the problems listed in the OP. This was information I needed.

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

No Flash 10.1 support is the only thing that really annoys me.

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Mybe its just me but:

1.- MicroB s very good, the only one u need for different functionality things are Macuco and/or Firefox, but everything works pretty well

2.- We know about the flash, but you cant tweak it so you
can play/view stuff in 10.1

3.- Video players ARE good, you can download a package for subtitles, i have no problem with the audio (less stutter thanks to brad and mohammads package hack)

4.- All emulators work fine here, even psx4m works fast (just need to configure and thats alla)

5.- Its a phone, not a digital camera, but stil has pretty good quality, you can find very good pointers/tricks in the forum to have less noise.

6.- Fk MeeGo i like a Maemo.

7.- I have no problems with the phone function, i actually love it.

But then again, this is just me.

:D

Re: Want to Give Up N900
 

Amazing how this thread is almost 4 months old, and the OP is still a regular here... guess the N900 ain't as bad as they originally thought...

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Lol did not even realise it was an old thread when I posted. Thought it was like 3 days old.

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Man, you know I always thought you're the most unfortunate human being on earth, as you seem to have to deal with more problems in N900 than the aggregate total of the problems that are reported by the entire N900 communities. And yet you don't seem to want to solve the problems you are facing, instead keep complaining everyday, even when many of those can be easily solved by flashing your firmware.

After all the complaining and ranting, now that you told me you love N900.

Shocked, I'm absolutely shocked. Can you understand my feeling? It's as shock as Bin Laden telling me he loves America, Hilary Clinton telling me she loves China, and Tiger Wood telling me he loves his wife - and they are telling me that all at once.

I can't breath, I can't breath....take my N900 near me please....

The fact that you could still keep complaining how hard N900 is during the time you sent your N900 back to Nokia for repairing amused me. Then I assumed that you own an extra N900 to complain with. While you complain N900 you never fail to compare it with iPhone, so I also assumed you owned two N900 and multiple iPhones.

You're the most blessed unfortunate human being on earth.

Well you must have mistaken me for someone else. I've never said I'm objective, and I've never said iPhone is crap. iPhone sucks, but that doesn't make it crap. I'm sorry to say you're wasting time on getting into something too personal.

You know the differences between N900 users and iPhone users?

N900 Users: When you cry out loud N900 is difficult and keep complaining and ranting, you would be excused and some even come to help you even when you weren't asked for one.

iPhone Users: You look like an absolute idiot when you cry for help.