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elris 2010-07-01 14:14

Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I've just downloaded it. It seems to be much faster than previous version. Now, I'm going to start playing with it.

lucas777 2010-07-01 14:16

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Thanks for the download link

Dancairo 2010-07-01 14:22

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
'Click downloading'

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/1.1b1/releasenotes/

You're welcome ;-)

elris 2010-07-01 14:22

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Before I had 1.0.1 which I downloaded here:

http://www.mozilla.com/it/mobile/

One hour ago I simply found a software update.

Info page clearly says that it's Firefox Mobile 1.1.
It also upgrades Firefox Sync/Weave to 1.4.

On the first web sites it seems very responsive, almost as MicroB

kevinm2k 2010-07-01 14:23

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Yeah an update has just popped through on mine too! :)

Cue 2010-07-01 14:24

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
its an update you don't need a download link. get it from the ovi store for free if you don't have firefox otherwise just check for updates in the app manager if you do. 1.1 seems faster but it seemed like it was stuck loading "tabs from last time" and 5 of my add-ons are now incompatible with 1.1 hope the add-ons get an update soon.

Mr. Incredible 2010-07-01 14:25

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Can someone please post the mozilla reporitory settings?

elris 2010-07-01 14:29

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
My repository settings are:

http://moff.mozilla.com/maemo/multi/
chinook
release

elris 2010-07-01 14:31

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 737155)
1.1 seems faster but it seemed like it was stuck loading "tabs from last time" and 5 of my add-ons are now incompatible with 1.1 hope the add-ons get an update soon.

I had this problem when I tried the first time. Now not anymore.

Anyway I like it now better than MicroB cause it offers Firefox Sync

CarstenDutch 2010-07-01 14:33

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
So it's still a beta release!

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/maemo/

Download Firefox 1.1 beta:

Visit Firefox.com/m/beta on your Nokia N900

afaq 2010-07-01 14:34

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Lord, App Manager is so slow. 3 mins to scan and load available updates.

kevinm2k 2010-07-01 14:35

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Hm, I went to the bbc football website, and a flash video which is normally always available in microb had a msg saying 'incorrect version of flash'.

Anyone else having same issue?

Blobster2k 2010-07-01 14:36

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
This version seems very very fast - microB fast!

Cue 2010-07-01 14:41

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
noticed you can now click and hold a link to open in new tab. great when the KB is closed.

Exact 2010-07-01 14:44

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Well beta or not, it's looking like a beatdown to MicroB! It's faster, the UI is better ans the addons are great!

Nice job!

stlpaul 2010-07-01 15:00

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
The strange part is that if I run "fennec" from xterm it works, but if I run it from the app menu it doesn't.

Screen turns black for a moment and then it goes back to my desktop. I deleted ~/.mozilla/fennec/ before installing. Maybe I need to reboot? hmm..

stlpaul 2010-07-01 15:04

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
OK, after a reboot now Firefox/Fennec starts up normally. :)

magullo 2010-07-01 15:13

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Looks a bit faster then 1.0 and 1.1Beta, but not as fast as MicroB or even Opera.
I love FF, it's my default browser on bot Mac and Linux (as well as Win at work), and FF Sync is a killer plugin, but on N900 looks a bit too slow for me.

Cue 2010-07-01 15:23

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
portrait mode! it now works in portrait but it seems to do so even with the keyboard open.

aanckar 2010-07-01 15:24

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Is this really new? I think I've had 1.1 some time already and I stil find it inferior to microB (slower and more limited flash capabilities).

birdy 2010-07-01 15:28

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Love ff but this doesnt seem faster than earlier iteration and i guess i will have to stick with microB.

xuggs 2010-07-01 15:37

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
FFS whoever said it was as fast as MicroB needs to really be able to tell a difference. It's still slow and sluggish. I dont hate it and I know what it means when a software is in beta. I hope that eventually when it comes out of beta it would be faster. And yes I dont think it's new it's been out for sometime. MicroB kicks ***!

MOC 2010-07-01 15:43

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I agree, MicroB is still way faster.

FF is barely useable as it is, and I'm seriously doubting that it will ever change.

I have been using Fennec since the alpha days on the N810 and speed has always been the Achilles heel. I thought it would change when 1.0 came, but it's still the same, also with 1.1 as of today.

It has been a huge disappointment, and I'm having a hard time finding out why. Couldn't they learn from MicroB's rendering or is there a deeper tech-issue, that is beyond my understanding?

rm42 2010-07-01 15:53

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I am downloading the update right now. So, I haven't tried it yet. But, I just want to point out that when comparing the speed of MircoB and Firefox you have to take into consideration that MicroB is always going to start faster since it is built in. Therefore, what we need to determine is whether Firefox is fast enough once loaded.

Crashdamage 2010-07-01 15:55

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
First, this not a beta release. It's Firefox 1.1 final, unless you have installed the wrong file.

Second, I've been using Firefox as the default browser since the 1.0 release. I don't know where some people get the idea it's slower than MicroB or runs flash any differently. I'll admit I've tweaked FF a bit - increased cache memory, etc. but by seat-of-the-pants it's always run as well as MicroB for me. I haven't done any formal testing to speak of though.

MicroB seems to load quicker because it pre-loads into memory at boot, but after both get going I can't tell a significant speed difference. If anything, FF should be faster due to being based on the FF 3.6 engine while MicroB is based on the FF 3.5 engine.

I just prefer the FF UI and it handles some business websites I use better than MicroB.

MOC 2010-07-01 16:00

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 737306)
I'll admit I've tweaked FF a bit - increased cache memory, etc. but by seat-of-the-pants it's always run as well as MicroB for me.

Can you give a quick rundown of your tweaking? Cause by the seat of my pants, there's no doubt, MicroB is waaay faster.

xuggs 2010-07-01 16:04

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Verification is needed for this one but I think MicroB is installed on the 256MB NAND flash while FF is installed on eMMC so naturally MicroB is going to be faster.

By slow I refer to scrolling down a webpage where it would pause for half a second and then continue to render. This IMHO is horrible. It spoils the experience and I have never faced this with MicroB. I frankly dont care how long it takes to startup a browser but the browsing itself should be reasonable.

Like I said I will give it the benefit of doubt being in beta but sorry it's not as fast as MicroB.

Edit: and yes I have tweaked FF myself since 1.0 days.

abarrow 2010-07-01 16:12

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I'm using it on my N800. Has anyone noticed a problem with clicking on links in online apps like Gmail?

Cobra 2010-07-01 16:13

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 737306)
First, this not a beta release. It's Firefox 1.1 final, unless you have installed the wrong file.

Second, I've been using Firefox as the default browser since the 1.0 release. I don't know where some people get the idea it's slower than MicroB or runs flash any differently. I'll admit I've tweaked FF a bit - increased cache memory, etc. but by seat-of-the-pants it's always run as well as MicroB for me. I haven't done any formal testing to speak of though.

MicroB seems to load quicker because it pre-loads into memory at boot, but after both get going I can't tell a significant speed difference. If anything, FF should be faster due to being based on the FF 3.6 engine while MicroB is based on the FF 3.5 engine.

I just prefer the FF UI and it handles some business websites I use better than MicroB.

How did you get flash working?

maemomatic 2010-07-01 16:18

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MOC (Post 737313)
Can you give a quick rundown of your tweaking? Cause by the seat of my pants, there's no doubt, MicroB is waaay faster.

Same here - I love the UI and it's definitely faster than FF 1.01, but still seriously behind MicroB in usability, especially for scrolling web pages. Also, it's often unresponsive when tapping on the url bar. I need t tap 2/3 times before being able to input a new url. Too bad, because it has a great interface. MicroB speed + Firefox UI would be the best...

xuggs 2010-07-01 16:23

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 737336)
How did you get flash working?

there is a plugin for that. I think its called "Youtube enabler".

droll 2010-07-01 16:26

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
it's an add-on called youtube enabler.

HellFlyer 2010-07-01 16:27

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
This new version is awesome , espcailly on overclocked N900 , check you addons! Low Quality flash and fastest scroll in the west are amazing!!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/

cmonman 2010-07-01 16:40

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
i had used firefox 1.0 n it was really slow in terms of browsing compared to microB but now after the 1.1 i installed.. something seems to hav changed apart from d add ons... the browsing is same as micro B if not better n the ui acc was anytime better than microB so i this apart from flash i think any site shud open equally on both ff n microB.. n now u also hav youtube enabler... though wud stil use microB for flash but this is a gud development by mozilla.

erniadeldesktop 2010-07-01 16:49

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
it's amazing. takes ages to load the first time but then it works fine. It's going to be my default browser

quipper8 2010-07-01 16:56

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
i think it is pretty good. still a little slower than microb but it is way better interface and way better in portrait and way better zooming to divs or spans correctly

liking it

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 17:02

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
where is the release version? all I see is a beta.

slvr32 2010-07-01 17:06

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
BTW, the most generic link would be...

http://mozilla.com/mobile

and you'll be redirected to your localized page

ZShakespeare 2010-07-01 17:09

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
ahh indeed it is. They need to change the extra link they have on that page to the 1.1b1 version. That's what was confusing me. Why would they have a special link to an old beta?

DonPIZI 2010-07-01 17:15

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
It runs with max cpu usage (1GHz) on my N900 :(
With FF I can't use the ovi store and the scrolling speed is quite slow :( MicroB is much faster and I can't visit flash sites ( yes I've installed the plugin) like http://s4.sfgame.de, there is only a black screen. MicroB opens this site!


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