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DonPIZI 2010-07-02 12:04

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I´ve run this benchmark for each browser I´ve installed on my N900. Here are the scores:

MircoB
14352 (with flash)
13592 (without flash)

Firefox 1.1
0 (with flash, I had canceled the test, because it doesn´t load the flash test)
23295 (without flash) :eek:

Opera 10
21145 (without flash, not supported)

so Firefox is the fastest browser... but the flash support ist quite bad

HowHH 2010-07-02 13:37

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Firefox 1.0 is in the repositories for the N800, but not 1.1. Any one know if 1.1 will install on the N800, or is it only compiled for Freemantle?

StOoZ 2010-07-02 14:18

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
something i dont understand, since flash is a plug in (on pc...),why cant we install the latest flash as a plugin on FF1.1???

zerone 2010-07-02 14:29

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I have noticed that performance is much better with Sync extension disabled. I am currently keeping it disabled and only enable it once or twice a day to sync with my desktop.

poka64 2010-07-02 14:50

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysire (Post 738465)
Really? I am using the "Finnish" keyboard and it's working great... I would think they are the same! We even have the letter "å".

Do you have white arrows left and right or do you have to press the "blue button" to get them? One caveat is that you can't see that you've selected the beginning of a line. Just press the first letter (or immediately left of it) that you want to select - then you just start pressing shift-arrow-right to copy characters.

Jag är dessutom svenskspråkig själv...

It works, I'm the one who was stupid :)

Tackar!

mooninite 2010-07-03 01:33

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonPIZI (Post 738494)

so Firefox is the fastest browser... but the flash support ist quite bad

Install the Flash Enabler add-on. It ran a few Flash tests but then bombed. Plays YouTube videos smoothly, though. I finally deleted the MicroB shortcut on my desktop.

pctek 2010-07-03 01:54

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
In the app manager where you can uninstall apps on the n900 theres a app called mozilla runtime, is this used by microb or just firefox? and can i uninstall it since I already unistalled firefox?

kureyon 2010-07-03 02:24

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StOoZ (Post 738631)
something i dont understand, since flash is a plug in (on pc...),why cant we install the latest flash as a plugin on FF1.1???

Because the Flash plugin needs to be specific for the OS (eg windows/linux) and the cpu architecture (ie intel x86/arm).

hordeman 2010-07-03 03:36

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
1.1RC1 is blazing fast for me on the N810... I got it via this blog post: http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/20...aemo-1-1-rc-1/

It's faster than the 2.0beta that I had been using and all the 1.0 plugins work! I also did not have to tweak it AT ALL; e.g., increasing the memory to 8gb. Very close to microB speeds. I will gladly trade off a bit of speed for greater compatibility.

And again, for you peeps wanting a better gmail experience on this browser, use the microB link. For the n810 it is https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1&ui=1&ov=0

jaysire 2010-07-03 08:03

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Darn it. I wanted to like this, but longer testing has shown it's just a tad too slow and sluggish for me. I found myself dragging the page a lot without anything moving because the system was so busy. Doesn't happen in Microb after overclocking - at least not very often.

I absolutely love the ff interface, but it's back to Microb again. Speed trumps almost everything.

Sash 2010-07-03 09:50

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Is there any keyboard shortcuts to scroll to the Top or to the Bottom of a page? That would make it almost the perfect browser

NvyUs 2010-07-03 20:04

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
the guys have done a great job on version 1.1 its a 100% improvement over 1.0, it's actually on par with MicroB now b/c the added functionality it offers, keep the improvements coming and it will rival my desktop

neotalk 2010-07-03 20:08

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 739801)
the guys have done a great job on version 1.1 its a 100% improvement over 1.0, it's actually on par with MicroB now b/c the added functionality it offers, keep the improvements coming and it will rival my desktop


oh dear me....it's an improvement...i will give you that.

PdxDoug 2010-07-03 20:23

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sash (Post 739394)
Is there any keyboard shortcuts to scroll to the Top or to the Bottom of a page? That would make it almost the perfect browser

Up/Down arrow keys. However, the Up arrow key doesn't seem to scroll all the way to the top to reveal the address area.

And, Ctrl Up/Down zooms in and out.

gabby131 2010-07-03 20:30

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
i followed one's post here to enable flash, played with both settings to be change but i still cant play flash vids aside from youtube.

i think it was crashdamage who posted that one :D

stickymick 2010-07-03 20:56

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I can't get the soddin thing to run on my N900.

Installed OK, and on first run it wanted to check for plugin compatibility, so I let it do so. After all plugins were updated, the damn thing shuts down, never to run again. Tap the icon, up comes the positioning requester followed by the network connection selection. At this point I see FF shut down in the background, but I still select the APN I want to use (GPRS), then I cancel the positioning requester without allowing GPS access, and lo and behold the damn thing still displays the GPS icon in the status area. No sign of the Firefox window though, but Conky tells me it's running. And the only way to disable the GPS is to restart the phone.

I'm open to ideas to get it running for a couple days before I uninstall it and fire up a file manager to clear out all the garbage it leaves behind.

imperiallight 2010-07-03 21:08

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/03/f...d-ons-save-to/

Crashdamage 2010-07-03 21:25

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gabby131 (Post 739815)
i followed one's post here to enable flash, played with both settings to be change but i still cant play flash vids aside from youtube.

i think it was crashdamage who posted that one :D

See my post #48 in this thread to enable flash in Firefox. No need to install a flash plugin - it's already on the phone.

Some heavy flash stuff - Hulu for instance - will stil not play, or of course stuff requiring flash 10. That still leaves a lot of flash content that will play just fine on a 3G or wifi connection.

I'll be glad when flash is gone and we can all forget about it.

RWFarley 2010-07-04 03:20

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Does anyone know where the Sync "Secret Phrase" is stored? I have a ton of bookmarks that I synced from my old PC. I can sync my N900.

I wiped my PC and wanted to sync back the bookmarks. I know the password, but not the "Secret Phrase" Without that< I can't login on my PC.:-(

Wikiwide 2010-07-04 04:11

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
About Secret Phrase:

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/...what_can_I_do_

in Fennec: Options->Sync->Secret Phrase or Addons->Sync->Options->Secret Phrase
(I don't know much about it, because I don't use Sync, because I don't have Internet, because {{I don't have WiFi, because my LAN is wired} and {I haven't learnt how to give N900 Internet from PC through USB}}...)

Does it help?

About Scrolling: Fastest Scroll In The West
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/addon/53305/

If anybody misses Find from MicroB: Find in Page
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/addon/130877/

If you would like something else, more features, don't hesitate to write.

RWFarley 2010-07-04 04:52

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 740040)
About Secret Phrase:

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/...what_can_I_do_

in Fennec: Options->Sync->Secret Phrase or Addons->Sync->Options->Secret Phrase

Where's "Options" in the N900's Firefox?

On the left there's an Add-on (puzzle piece) button and a Preferences (2 sliders) button.

From Add-on/Sync there's an options button, but that just shows 2 more buttons:
Disconnect
Sync Now

There's no hint of all the items in the PC version. :-(

Wikiwide 2010-07-04 05:21

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Options=Preferences=Settings
for me
(In Fennec 2 Sync is included into browser, and there is textbox Options->Sync->Secret Phrase; but it's alpha, and crashes frequently, at least for me; so please, don't try installing this alpha until you have all the bookmarks backup-ed)

Where did you enter Secret Phrase into Fennec when you synced Fennec first time? Try to look for it here.

Edit: I'm going to ask question on
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla-labs-weave
about this problem.

mbrubeck 2010-07-04 06:57

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 737306)
MicroB seems to load quicker because it pre-loads into memory at boot, but after both get going I can't tell a significant speed difference.

That's correct, and hopefully Firefox 2.0 for Maemo/MeeGo will be using the same "faststart" pre-loading once https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572329 is ironed out.

xuggs 2010-07-04 10:29

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I faced some laggy browsing with 1.1. I realized there was some junk from last version 1.0 because my add-ons and bookmarks were still in place after installing 1.1. I wanted a fresh start so i backed up and removed /home/opt/mozilla/fennec folder and then reinstalled 1.1 which has quite a decent performance now.

Still I hope 2.0 brings faster scrolling and rendering and mouse cursor support.

RWFarley 2010-07-04 18:18

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 740090)
Where did you enter Secret Phrase into Fennec when you synced Fennec first time? Try to look for it here.
.

Too long ago. If I could remember that much I'd be able to remember the phrase... :-)

My mysty recollection was that it was a popup request box, but Ireally couldn't say.

taril 2010-07-04 18:21

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
How can I enable adobe flash plugin?

DonPIZI 2010-07-04 18:48

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 737750)
1. Type 'about:config' in the address bar.
2. Type 'plugin' In the search bar on top.
3. You should see some options popup.
4. Need to change these 2 (scroll down a bit):
plugin.default_plugin_disabled
and
plugin.disable

5. Tap on each one (or use the arrow keys) and hit enter. This will change the value from true to false.
6. Close Firefox and restart.

Must I change it in true or false?

shaf 2010-07-04 20:22

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
its defo slower than microb altho the features are cool but operas prob 2nd choice after micro b

geneven 2010-07-04 20:45

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
I HATE the secret phrase feature! As if I care so much about the security of my bookmarks that I need TWO password like features. I am always forgetting my secret phrase, so my browser treats me like a spy...

RWFarley 2010-07-04 23:08

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 740640)
I HATE the secret phrase feature! As if I care so much about the security of my bookmarks that I need TWO password like features. I am always forgetting my secret phrase, so my browser treats me like a spy...

I don't see the purpose. If it's to create a seed for encryption, you'd think the ID&Password+(some other fixed elements) would be sufficient.

Crashdamage 2010-07-04 23:33

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xuggs (Post 740240)
Still I hope 2.0 brings faster scrolling and rendering and mouse cursor support.

Try the add-on 'Fastest Scroll in the West'.

It actually does have cursor support (kinda), but unfortunately the cursor is not visible.

Crashdamage 2010-07-04 23:37

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonPIZI (Post 740554)
Must I change it in true or false?

The default is 'true' which is disabled. You must change both to 'false' to enable flash. It sounds kinda backwards, but that's how it is.

Wikiwide 2010-07-05 00:46

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Hello, RWFarley!

I have thought about a workaround, which in best case works, in middle case does nothing, in worst case erases bookmarks from mobile.
So make a backup of bookmarks first.

1. On PC: enter your login, password and NEW Secret Phrase. It will erase all bookmarks from server; that's why bookmarks from mobile should be back-uped.
2. On mobile, somehow make Sync to be aware of the new Secret Phrase and then click "Sync now". It should merge (I hope; I don't know exact functions of the button, and I cannot test it myself, because I cannot log into Sync on mobile, because mobile has Internet not more than one minute in a month, because...) bookmarks from mobile and computer. In worst case, it will replace bookmarks on mobile with bookmarks from computer (that's why I pledge you to backup mobile bookmarks before starting).

RWFarley 2010-07-05 06:10

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 740754)
Hello, RWFarley!

I have thought about a workaround, which in best case works, in middle case does nothing, in worst case erases bookmarks from mobile.
So make a backup of bookmarks first.

How do I back up the bookmarks. "Preferences only has 8 items:
)About FireFox
)Language
)Start Page
)Show Images
)Enable Javascript
)Allow Cookies
)Remember Passwords (Y/N)
)Clear Private data


If I can back up the bookmarks from my N900, is there any way to "restore" them onto my PC? If so, where is the file saved on the N900?

xuggs 2010-07-05 06:18

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RWFarley (Post 740893)
How do I back up the bookmarks. "Preferences only has 8 items:
)About FireFox
)Language
)Start Page
)Show Images
)Enable Javascript
)Allow Cookies
)Remember Passwords (Y/N)
)Clear Private data


If I can back up the bookmarks from my N900, is there any way to "restore" them onto my PC? If so, where is the file saved on the N900?

You can use the Weave Sync add-on instead?

DonPIZI 2010-07-05 06:25

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 740733)
The default is 'true' which is disabled. You must change both to 'false' to enable flash. It sounds kinda backwards, but that's how it is.

Hi,
both I have now set to false and for example http://www.flashearth.com don't work.

Wikiwide 2010-07-05 07:53

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
@xuggs: RWFarley has wiped PC and forgotten Secret Phrase, so he cannot take bookmarks to PC from Sync; if he makes new Secret Phrase, he deletes all data from Mozilla Sync server; the only place where he can access his bookmarks now is N900 (PC wiped, server encrypted with forgotten Secret Phrase).

@RWFarley:
All settings and bookmarks and extensions of Fennec are stored in /home/user/.mozilla/fennec
I hope you can copy this folder and all its contents to a safe place
Like in XTerm

cp -R /home/user/.mozilla/fennec /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/fennec

Then the backup will be stored in Documents->fennec. You can see it in File Manager. It can then be accessed from PC by USB in Mass Storage Mode.

In Firefox 3, bookmarks are stored in the places.sqlite file. As you have nothing to lose on PC, I recommend you to try and copy places.sqlite from Fennec on N900 to Firefox on PC. It's stored on PC in folder

%APPDATA%/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxxx.default

and on N900 in directory

/home/user/.mozilla/fennec/xxxxxxxx.default

You can try copying "places.sqlite-journal", together with "places.sqlite", to your PC.

xuggs 2010-07-05 09:47

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonPIZI (Post 740903)
Hi,
both I have now set to false and for example http://www.flashearth.com don't work.

You will need to restart firefox after making those changes.

DonPIZI 2010-07-05 10:30

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xuggs (Post 741064)
You will need to restart firefox after making those changes.

I restarted it a few times but it don't appear... and I've restarted the whole device, too. But no flash... what do I wrong?

ste-phan 2010-07-05 10:51

Re: Firefox 1.1 is out
 
This 1.1 release is definitely fast.
My N900 loads the page faster then http://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/mo...hone-smackdown

around 11:30 something they are loading www.technobuffalo.com and my N900 is just a fraction faster than the Droid X and way faster than the iPhone

-my internet connection is considered avarage good adsl
-add ons to FF 1.1: Noscript (total lockdown) and adblock plus - which might be speeding up page loading as well

One remark though: I had to overclock the device to make 1.1 smooth. I simply could not expect to receive incoming calls in the minutes I following the opening of a new webpage in a tab in FF1.1. No ringing sound, missed call afterwards. The phone application didn't seem to get through. Only a while after webpages had been loaded the device was displaying incoming mobile phone calls.
Now with overclock to max 850mhz everything is smoother and no more such problems.


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