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peter@instinctiv.com 2010-12-08 18:56
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kate (Post 892245)
That's completely different than "discouraged from developing for Maemo" . If you look back to history, we announced LinuxTag 2008 that next Maemo platform, Harmattan will be Qt based so going to Qt is no longer any new issue. We had Qt for Maemo 5 since beginning, we supplied it with first beta SDK beginning of 2009.
Harmattan was at beginning called as Maemo6 and in practice going to MeeGo was in technical sense just renaming it. MeeGo was in practice merge of Maemo and Moblin and both of them were based on same components, so no major change were needed.

If you today develop for N900/Maemo5 using Qt, Qt Quick, Qt Quick Components and Qt Mobility, your application will run unmodified in MeeGo.

Nokia has given information about Maemo development directions a log time ago, we have also provided developer viesions of new technologies as early as possible so that any new technology won't become as surprise to developers.

Kate
Kate, thanks for participating in this thread. Unfortunately, there are many good reasons why we were explicitly discouraged from developing any further on Maemo and I've shared some of those reasons with you in a private message. They are the same reasons I've shared here but I've added some more sensitive background info to help clarify.

SalmanAbbas 2010-12-08 19:21
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
cmon that aint fair. we also deserve to know the background behind all of this...

marxian 2010-12-08 19:33
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmanAbbas (Post 892526)
cmon that aint fair. we also deserve to know the background behind all of this...
Why? They haven't taken any of your money, so they are under no obligation to provide any more information than they have already.

M00NB34M 2010-12-08 19:49
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
I think Instinctiv is AWESOME, been using it for a while now and i love it!

But one MAJOR fault in it...

If the phone is set to Silent, no sound comes out of the speakers or headphones!

There are apps that override this feature, because its a default thing in Maemo. Silent shuts apps up! But Mediabox can bypass this and output sound in either situation!

Another thing would be PLEEEEASE get rid of the Maemo bar at the top! Its uuuugly! Is there no way to make integrated X and App Manager buttons on the app itself? See Tweego or most Offscrn Apps to know what im on about! But i just think this is such a beautiful player so yeah, lets keep it that way :)

Oh and a "Search for new media" button would be nice! It takes a little long for the program to find new media itself so yeah that'd be nice :)

But seriously keep this up! Its one of my FAV apps :)

marxian 2010-12-08 19:58
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M00NB34M (Post 892556)
I think Instinctiv is AWESOME, been using it for a while now and i love it!

But one MAJOR fault in it...

If the phone is set to Silent, no sound comes out of the speakers or headphones!

There are apps that override this feature, because its a default thing in Maemo. Silent shuts apps up! But Mediabox can bypass this and output sound in either situation!

Another thing would be PLEEEEASE get rid of the Maemo bar at the top! Its uuuugly! Is there no way to make integrated X and App Manager buttons on the app itself? See Tweego or most Offscrn Apps to know what im on about! But i just think this is such a beautiful player so yeah, lets keep it that way :)

Oh and a "Search for new media" button would be nice! It takes a little long for the program to find new media itself so yeah that'd be nice :)

But seriously keep this up! Its one of my FAV apps :)
I think you need to read the last couple of pages of this thread. ;)

M00NB34M 2010-12-08 19:59
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Sorry :/ Didn't read that the project is being Discouraged!

Kinda sad to hear that...but as many have agreed on this thread it was inevitable and is fully understandable. A company needs funding to operate...without such funding...why bother?

But i talk on behalf of many people on this thread, that we all really appreciate the work that the Instinctiv team have put in, and the effort they have submitted to create a new benchmark in Meego/Maemo App creation!

All we can wish for now is that people see this example, and work towards it!

We all wish this company the best and hope to see you guys one day come to complete/refine this App for Maemo/Meego! You never know, Meego may very well turn out to be the profitable OS that might just do the job for you guys!

Nevertheless thank you for creating work at such a high standard! And yeah...just keep on going!

SalmanAbbas 2010-12-08 20:05
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 892540)
Why? They haven't taken any of your money, so they are under no obligation to provide any more information than they have already.
i meant no offence it was just an request to satisfy the curiousity of all the instinctiv fans over here who have been following this thread for a long time v just wanna know what actually happened ...given that they already are leaving it wouldnt do much harm would it (although i desperately want them to stay)...or maybe v could learn something and try to solve it that would prevent others devs from leaving maemo.

thats why

cheers

clovis86 2010-12-08 20:18
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
just have to say that in few times, we'll have to boot nitdroid to use new instinctiv version :D

peter@instinctiv.com 2010-12-08 20:23
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmanAbbas (Post 892576)
i meant no offence it was just an request to satisfy the curiousity of all the instinctiv fans over here who have been following this thread for a long time v just wanna know what actually happened ...given that they already are leaving it wouldnt do much harm would it (although i desperately want them to stay)...or maybe v could learn something and try to solve it that would prevent others devs from leaving maemo.

thats why

cheers
Apart from our tech, we generally don't have many secrets of our own and as difficult of a decision as it was, we've tried to be completely transparent about why we're winding down development on Maemo. That said, it's not for us to share those secrets that Nokia has been very generous in sharing with us.

SalmanAbbas 2010-12-08 20:34
Re: Ovi Store - Instinctiv
 
this whole maemo and nokia business is like that frankenstein story...first nokia spents much time and effort in creating(developing) maemo and then in the end they are trying to destroy(finish) it...so i guess no instinctiv for future meego then or you guys have plan for returning sometime later?


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