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aiyush 2010-07-05 06:18
How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Is it possible to stop an SMS from getting transmitted after user has hit the sent button, but the SMS is still not picked up by the provider. This would be equivalent to deleting the message from the Outbox in Symbian devices.

Thanks!

~@!

ToJa92 2010-07-05 06:26
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Try opening the conversation, if you see the unsent message press and hold on it and from the menu select delete.

dana.s 2010-07-05 06:47
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
if you are fast enough, switch to offline mode and delete the message in Conversation.

aiyush 2010-07-05 07:05
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
This doesn't stop the message from transmitting, just removes it from the conversations. Exact steps I followed:

1. Phone mode > Offline
2. Typed SMS to a colleague and pressed SEND
3. Opened Conversations. Deleted the top message (this has a gren circle showing unsent)
4. Phone mode > Online

Result:

Message got delivered to the colleague, though I don't have a copy of it in Conversations. Is it not how your phone behaves? Thanks!

ossipena 2010-07-05 07:19
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
removing stuff from conversations probably doesn't affect the sending at all.

e: just as I suspected: rtcom-eventlogger and sms sending aren't connected at all. (well, conversations triggers them both when sending a message but thats as close as they get)

ee: only thing that crosses my mind would be tampering with dbus -strings but that also can't be done afterwards. and the delays we are talking about are so small that you would probably not make it in time anyway...

dana.s 2010-07-05 07:31
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiyush (Post 740935)
This doesn't stop the message from transmitting, just removes it from the conversations. Exact steps I followed:

1. Phone mode > Offline
2. Typed SMS to a colleague and pressed SEND
3. Opened Conversations. Deleted the top message (this has a gren circle showing unsent)
4. Phone mode > Online

Result:

Message got delivered to the colleague, though I don't have a copy of it in Conversations. Is it not how your phone behaves? Thanks!
If the phone is sending messages while it's in offline mode then this should be reported as a bug.

ossipena 2010-07-05 07:34
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dana.s (Post 740951)
If the phone is sending messages while it's in offline mode then this should be reported as a bug.
you didn't quite understand. did you notice that last step was to put device to online mode and as a result the message got delivered?

dana.s 2010-07-05 07:51
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 740956)
you didn't quite understand. did you notice that last step was to put device to online mode and as a result the message got delivered?
My apologizes, but still there is a bug, he removed the message @ step 3 but still got delivered.

EDIT: I'm not sure if the message got delivered before step 3 or after that, in both ways it should not be delivered.

imacmillan 2010-07-05 08:19
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
This seems like a relevant thread to ask a quick question...

I have thousands of sms's sent to a contact and the problem i have is because some time ago the message failed to send, the icon in conversations is stuck showing an error icon. Is there a way to clear this or do i have to scroll through thousands of messages deleting the ones which didn't send? Obviously im not going to do that because it will take forever!!

Hope that makes sense!!

ossipena 2010-07-05 09:14
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dana.s (Post 740964)
My apologizes, but still there is a bug, he removed the message @ step 3 but still got delivered.

EDIT: I'm not sure if the message got delivered before step 3 or after that, in both ways it should not be delivered.
it isn't a bug imo. which handset has the ability to cancel sending of message? afaik every handset allows deletion of sent message but message is sent anyway. best way is to not send the sms in the first place.... second best is to misconfigure the sms center number.

Joorin 2010-07-05 09:20
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dana.s (Post 740964)
My apologizes, but still there is a bug, he removed the message @ step 3 but still got delivered.

EDIT: I'm not sure if the message got delivered before step 3 or after that, in both ways it should not be delivered.
No, the saved record of creating and sending the SMS was deleted. That is something else. The list of messages in Conversations is just a view of database entries. It's not a window into the SMS sending mechanism.

aiyush 2010-07-05 09:28
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 741028)
it isn't a bug imo. which handset has the ability to cancel sending of message? afaik every handset allows deletion of sent message but message is sent anyway. best way is to not send the sms in the first place.... second best is to misconfigure the sms center number.
I could do that in N95 (and I suppose other symbian phones too). Steps would be:

1. Mode > Offline
2. Type a message and SEND
3. Go to folder Outbox (this is different from folder Sent items). You will see your message sitting there. Delete it.
4. Mode > Online

No message gets sent this time.

In case anyone is wondering why I send messages in offline mode, I actually used to do 2 and then very quickly 1. The procedure here just explains the concept better!

jsa 2010-07-05 09:32
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiyush (Post 741038)
I could do that in N95 (and I suppose other symbian phones too). Steps would be:

1. Mode > Offline
2. Type a message and SEND
3. Go to folder Outbox (this is different from folder Sent items). You will see your message sitting there. Delete it.
4. Mode > Online

No message gets sent this time.

In case anyone is wondering why I send messages in offline mode, I actually used to do 2 and then very quickly 1. The procedure here just explains the concept better!
Why are you sending messages and then canceling in the first place..?

ossipena 2010-07-05 09:33
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiyush (Post 741038)
I could do that in N95 (and I suppose other symbian phones too). Steps would be:

1. Mode > Offline
2. Type a message and SEND
3. Go to folder Outbox (this is different from folder Sent items). You will see your message sitting there. Delete it.
4. Mode > Online

No message gets sent this time.

In case anyone is wondering why I send messages in offline mode, I actually used to do 2 and then very quickly 1. The procedure here just explains the concept better!
I stand corrected but still don't see any point cancelling already sent SMSes...

techie 2010-07-05 09:46
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsa (Post 741045)
Why are you sending messages and then canceling in the first place..?
Probably because he was sending a message to his girlfriend, but in the hurry hit the contact above it (of his dad) and pressed 'send':D

cjard 2010-07-05 11:17
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
What happens if you:

Go offline
Write SMS
Send SMS
Open xterm
Gain root
CD to /var/spool/sms/outgoing
Delete the contents
Go Online

aiyush 2010-07-05 11:49
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjard (Post 741133)
What happens if you:

Go offline
Write SMS
Send SMS
Open xterm
Gain root
CD to /var/spool/sms/outgoing
Delete the contents
Go Online
Works! Thanks cjard.

e: Thanks techie too, you got it right. Sometimes I just push the power button too long to switchoff and trap SMS from escaping!!!

techie 2010-07-05 12:37
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiyush (Post 741155)
Sometimes I just push the power button too long to switchoff and trap SMS from escaping!!!
You might also want to use tweaker to switch actions of powerkey short press and long press,so that short press switches off the phone.

dana.s 2010-07-05 12:51
Re: How to stop unsent SMS from getting delivered
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjard (Post 741133)
What happens if you:

Go offline
Write SMS
Send SMS
Open xterm
Gain root
CD to /var/spool/sms/outgoing
Delete the contents
Go Online
using this along with Desktop Command Execution Widget will make removing outgoing sms much easier.


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