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HellFlyer 2010-07-07 23:47

Youtube goes mobile , real MOBILE
 
So guys great news from Google. They updated mobile version of Youtube which now plays ALL videos through standard media player. Quality is not great but website is very fast and media player plays without any issues :) , one thing though ( I seems you need to install extra codec pack ) but afaik most people have it so enjoy :)

http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2...ick-start.html

HeavyComponent 2010-07-08 00:10

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Thanks for the update and it's about time. It would be nice if the player automatically pics the best quality at start up.

HellFlyer 2010-07-08 00:14

Re: Youtube goes mobile , real MOBILE
 
Well video is in 3gp format mostly that's why it looks bad however in that blog they mentioned couple of times that soon all vidoes will be in Web M format which looks promising

mokkey 2010-07-08 00:22

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very nice :D

dsawhney 2010-07-08 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 744341)
Well video is in 3gp format mostly that's why it looks bad however in that blog they mentioned couple of times that soon all vidoes will be in Web M format which looks promising

There are two video quality options - HQ & Normal. HQ one looks fine on N900.

Mgamerz 2010-07-08 00:40

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The N810, does it have this codec pack available?

quipper8 2010-07-08 00:57

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man, i wonder what kind of compute power is required to convert all of youtube to another format?

i ha*v like 600GB of video and converted it once and it took forEVER!

giannoug 2010-07-08 01:05

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Youtube Mobile doesn't even look remotely close to the one on the video for me.

altorn 2010-07-08 01:07

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"all of youtube to another format"? Wut? Normal computers can convert videos to webM easily. just the upload time that will be slow.

Anyway, 600gb is too much.. i dont believe you. unless it is a RAW movie film. (you know, the rolling film they use in movies)

gregoranderson 2010-07-08 01:10

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The new leanback feature works surprisingly quite well on the default browser too.

http://www.youtube.com/leanback

buurmas 2010-07-08 01:15

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dup:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=744295

buurmas 2010-07-08 02:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mgamerz (Post 744355)
The N810, does it have this codec pack available?

I tried it and it didn't work. I went to www.m.youtube.com and opened a video. It opened up in the Nokia Media Player. It gave an error message something like this:
Quote:

File format not supported:
video.3gp
Looks like I'm sticking with mYTube.

somedude 2010-07-08 02:34

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youtube pissed on iphone with this coz iphone dont have any keyboard or any form of joystick.nice

ysss 2010-07-08 06:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 744424)
youtube pissed on iphone with this coz iphone dont have any keyboard or any form of joystick.nice

But they use an iPhone in their demo video?

marcdxn 2010-07-08 08:04

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Software Keyboards on iphones do just a goood of a job dont they?

I'll be updating my links to use this... i've been after a decent youtube app for then n900 that includes options for likes, playlists ect... and we have nothing that uses all the functions.

This for me is a god send !

linuxeventually 2010-07-08 08:53

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Wow.

We have come back full circle to the WMV-era.

Embedded videos launching, streamed in external media players.

marcdxn 2010-07-08 08:58

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when i visit m.youtube.com i get the old mobile site ? =(

xuggs 2010-07-08 09:01

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I think i get the old site too.. any video i click on opens media player with file not found error.

xuggs 2010-07-08 09:04

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I guess its only for Android and Iphone.

marcdxn 2010-07-08 09:06

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I get the old plain listing mobile site. New site works but you need to install the extra decoders pack if you read above.

But i don't actually get to view the newer site.

Can users confirm if they are doing this in the Micro Browser ?

Reffyyyy 2010-07-08 09:22

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I managed to get it working by changing the User Agent to the same as Android 2.2 (Froyo)

EDIT: Nevermind, doesn't let me watch the video.

marcdxn 2010-07-08 09:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 744654)
I managed to get it working by changing the User Agent to the same as Android 2.2 (Froyo)

how do you go about changing the user agent ?

ivanzorkic 2010-07-08 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xuggs (Post 744638)
I guess its only for Android and Iphone.

You can probably use the hide agent app to trick the site into showing the iPhone/Android version.

marcdxn 2010-07-08 09:42

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Doesn't appear to work with hide usr agent either. I'm not 100% sure who has had this working on there n900 but if you could report back here how you did it :)

weißelstone 2010-07-08 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by altorn (Post 744377)
"all of youtube to another format"? Wut? Normal computers can convert videos to webM easily. just the upload time that will be slow.

Anyway, 600gb is too much.. i dont believe you. unless it is a RAW movie film. (you know, the rolling film they use in movies)

It's not one movie but several I guess. As one HD movie can be anything from 4Gb to 30Gb it's not that hard to get Terrabytes of movies.
Also I don't think they converted all videos but just the new ones on uploading and the old ones on demand when someone wants to see them (real time transcoding is not that much of a problem, and there shouldn't be too many transcodings as you can save the converted movie once someone saw it).

cjp 2010-07-08 10:03

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Well everything (leanback & m.youtube.com) seems to work just fine for me.

But I still don't get how any of this can really benefit anyone using MicroB. I mean the original site is the easiest to use and MicroB opens that site up perfectly.

I guess I'm missing something here... Sometimes I feel that people are forcing themselves to treat Maemo as if it was Android ( = less developed in web browsing terms) :D

marcdxn 2010-07-08 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 744682)
Well everything (leanback & m.youtube.com) seems to work just fine for me.

But I still don't get how any of this can really benefit anyone using MicroB. I mean the original site is the easiest to use and MicroB opens that site up perfectly.

I guess I'm missing something here... Sometimes I feel that people are forcing themselves to treat Maemo as if it was Android ( = less developed in web browsing terms) :D


Users here sometimes want a good finger friendly alternative while on the move. MicroB is great... websites on it... sometimes not so great !

travla 2010-07-08 10:37

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Best YouTube experience on N900 (considering Quality & Speed) is latest version of MediaBox. It has integrated YouTube in to the Videos section, and the search works a treat, and you have an integrated player.

marcdxn 2010-07-08 10:56

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Changed my user agent to Android Froyo - loads the new mobile you-tube but non of it works using it like this.

Unable to play videos, unable to click majority of buttons :)

cheetos316 2010-07-08 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 744414)
I tried it and it didn't work. I went to www.m.youtube.com and opened a video. It opened up in the Nokia Media Player. It gave an error message something like this:

Looks like I'm sticking with mYTube.

Got the same thing on my N810. Anyone know why media player isn't working? It does have native support for 3gp. I have mytube installed but I'm more curious about infrastructure. Or is there a way to get mplayer to load automatically instead of media player?

poka64 2010-07-08 17:14

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I don't get a HQ button on http://m.youtube.com

I can play the videos but the quality is at a very low quality, I bet this is just a adjustment so that the android and iphone users get the same "experience"

buurmas 2010-07-08 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetos316 (Post 745094)
Or is there a way to get mplayer to load automatically instead of media player?

If the Diablo media player is being launched using file associations, then presumably DBus Switchboard could be used to point 3gp to mplayer. Haven't tried it, though.

ZShakespeare 2010-07-09 00:21

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it's because the new site uses html5 and microb has poor html5 support. using one of the webkit browsers may yield a better experience.

rmerren 2010-07-09 01:14

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I tried this today and the audio/video was very jumpy and skippy. That was over 3g...I should try it on wifi.

I am not happy with performance, but I will give youtube kudos for breaking out of the siloed app-store world and offering a universal mobile client. I'm sure it will get better.

buurmas 2010-07-11 05:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rmerren (Post 745585)
I will give youtube kudos for breaking out of the siloed app-store world and offering a universal mobile client.

Amen to that. I hope this ridiculous iPod trend of having Apple-specific apps for a website (instead of a mobile version of the site that could benefit other mobile devices) dies a quick death. Interestingly, the influence of Android might help us here.

Mgamerz 2010-07-15 17:41

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Anyone care to explain these codecs?


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