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dwaradzyn 2011-10-09 12:15
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Thanks to slender we now have a wiki page: http://wiki.maemo.org/CloudGPS.

I encourage everyone to contribute and update this wiki page. I will surely be updating it in the new few days.

And again thanks slender for starting the page.

maemomatic 2011-10-11 16:10
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Great software, thanks so much!

I would love for it to become cycle-friendly. OpenCycleMap is great but lacks routing.I am not aware of global projects in this area, but it would be great if you could add Cyclestreets for bicycle routing in the UK: http://www.cyclestreets.net/api/

It works very well, and it's already used by a number of mobile apps for Android/iPhone for routing.
It even gives a number of options (ie. balanced, fastest, quietest, or shortest) - but even just implementing a standard 'balanced' one would be great.

Thanks a lot!

Musta susi 2011-10-11 22:04
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Works a treat. Smooth and handy interface. Keep up the excellent work!
However, one thing I'm worried about is my phone gets overheated after a continuous usage (causing a drastic battery drain) and so, when I open QCPUFreq, where the CPU temperature is usually shown, now says "unknown". Is that normal?

Finally an up-to-date GPS that works and routes in my area...

arne.anka 2011-10-11 22:31
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
am just aboput to try cloudgps.
two questions:
- w/o inet connection for every move an illegible red message appears on top of the screen (where a number of already hard to read elements exists) and disappears before i even get a chance to understand, what it tries to tell me. is there a chance to actually get the meaning of that message? i guess it has something to do with no map and no inte connection ...
- which brinsg me to question two: how do i get a map, where do i store it and how do i tell cloudgps to use it? the wiki is silent and from glancing over this rather lengthy thread i don't find any information

maemomatic 2011-10-12 13:57
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Two additional suggestions:

- when searching for a place, you can enter numbers only if you press Alt + a number key at the same time. This is not consistent with the N900's behaviour in stock applications (ie - double press Alt then add numbers, or press Alt followed by a number). I suggest to make it consistent with the default apps

- I would also increase the font size by 20-30% in the search form, currently it's quite hard to read

ps: should I report bugs/suggestions here, or you'd like me to do bug reports or on the wiki?

Thanks a lot!

xes 2011-10-26 12:58
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
...Any news?

...a strange question....
Maybe that the gps's fix time can change with different navigation apps?

In the detail....
After many weeks of tests i found that opening cloudgps with a cold start, without internet connection, without other running, apps the fix time is about 5-6 minutes.

In the same situation, using a tool called gpsrecorder the fix time is less than 3 minutes...

Also keeping cloudgps running and launching gpsrecorder you can obtain a fix in less time.

I have repeated this test more than 10 times in different days with the same result...
Only a coincidence? ...i don't believe...

Maybe that a different app can manage the gps chip in a different way reaching a better fix time?

If someone would repeat this test, install gpsrecorder and let me know... (no internet connection, cold start)

dwaradzyn 2011-10-26 20:13
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Sorry for being so quiet. I have been very busy lately. I hope to have some more time to catch up with forum and wiki this weekend.

5spdvl 2011-10-27 09:06
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
The wiki seems to be written in Italian (or similar, not sure), and it's just the same text over and over again?

Rob1n 2011-10-27 09:10
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5spdvl (Post 1114435)
The wiki seems to be written in Italian (or similar, not sure), and it's just the same text over and over again?
That's latin, and it's a standard sort of "filler" text, indicating that there should be some details added there. It's not usually used in wikis, but is common in applications where the overall layout is important but the actual text isn't (e.g. desktop publishing, advertising screenshots, etc).

noetus 2011-10-29 22:41
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Feature request: breadcrumbs, like what Mappero has. I would like to generate a trail on the map showing where I have been. Any chance of implementing that?

dwaradzyn 2011-10-30 09:05
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maemomatic (Post 1107152)
Great software, thanks so much!

I would love for it to become cycle-friendly. OpenCycleMap is great but lacks routing.I am not aware of global projects in this area, but it would be great if you could add Cyclestreets for bicycle routing in the UK: http://www.cyclestreets.net/api/

It works very well, and it's already used by a number of mobile apps for Android/iPhone for routing.
It even gives a number of options (ie. balanced, fastest, quietest, or shortest) - but even just implementing a standard 'balanced' one would be great.

Thanks a lot!
I am planning to add this in one of future releases.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Musta susi (Post 1107283)
Works a treat. Smooth and handy interface. Keep up the excellent work!
However, one thing I'm worried about is my phone gets overheated after a continuous usage (causing a drastic battery drain) and so, when I open QCPUFreq, where the CPU temperature is usually shown, now says "unknown". Is that normal?

Finally an up-to-date GPS that works and routes in my area...
That is normal - I have the same. N900 eats its battery in no time when used fully. The battery that I got with my first N900 two years ago holds only for 15-20 minutes when used heavily and it is heating. When it was new I could use it heavily for about 4 hours.

Quote:
Originally Posted by arne.anka (Post 1107288)
- w/o inet connection for every move an illegible red message appears on top of the screen (where a number of already hard to read elements exists) and disappears before i even get a chance to understand, what it tries to tell me. is there a chance to actually get the meaning of that message? i guess it has something to do with no map and no inte connection ...
As a part of creating new interface for N9 the things you mentions should all be resolved. Just give me some time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by arne.anka (Post 1107288)
- which brinsg me to question two: how do i get a map, where do i store it and how do i tell cloudgps to use it? the wiki is silent and from glancing over this rather lengthy thread i don't find any information
Maps are stored in /home/user/MyDocs/.maps. Please refer to first post for map downloading questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maemomatic (Post 1107574)
- when searching for a place, you can enter numbers only if you press Alt + a number key at the same time. This is not consistent with the N900's behaviour in stock applications (ie - double press Alt then add numbers, or press Alt followed by a number). I suggest to make it consistent with the default apps
I know that - input is causing a lot of problems when developing using SDL only. I am struggling to make QT text input capabilities working within CloudGPS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maemomatic (Post 1107574)
- I would also increase the font size by 20-30% in the search form, currently it's quite hard to read
New UI will fix that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maemomatic (Post 1107574)
ps: should I report bugs/suggestions here, or you'd like me to do bug reports or on the wiki?
The best place for that would be the CloudGPS bugtracker.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xes (Post 1113939)
I have repeated this test more than 10 times in different days with the same result...
Only a coincidence? ...i don't believe...
Programs using liblocation can choose the method of determining the location. CloudGPS uses whatever you have set in location settings in control panel. There is no difference in fix time between apps for me.

The fix time is significantly longer if there is no Internet connection while starting GPS module. AGPS in practice timeouts getting the data before N900 is able to make the connection. This affects all GPS apps. A workaround for that is to restart the GPS app and the AGPS module will work as intended.

Quote:
Originally Posted by noetus (Post 1115744)
Feature request: breadcrumbs, like what Mappero has. I would like to generate a trail on the map showing where I have been. Any chance of implementing that?
This is quite easy and I it planned for one of next releases.

dwaradzyn 2011-10-30 09:08
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xes (Post 1113939)
...Any news?
I have been very busy for last couple of weeks with work and private stuff. But I am working on a new release for Nokia N9 which will include new UI to compensate for lack of qwerty keyboard. Planned release time is beginning of December.

Edit: I have updated http://wiki.maemo.org/CloudGPS page with basic project information.

_invisible_ 2011-11-08 20:26
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
First thanks for the good job :).
I have this problem.
I have created a map with mobile atlas creator using setting "OSMTracker tile storage" and copied the tile to /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/<Provider Name>, where <provider name> is : - OpenStreetMap I. I have put the tiles there but there aren't shoing in the cloudgps. Does the folder name has to be a specific name? I've read through the post's and didn't find and answer. Can you guys give me a little help?

dwaradzyn 2011-11-09 07:16
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _invisible_ (Post 1120236)
First thanks for the good job :).
I have this problem.
I have created a map with mobile atlas creator using setting "OSMTracker tile storage" and copied the tile to /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/<Provider Name>, where <provider name> is : - OpenStreetMap I. I have put the tiles there but there aren't shoing in the cloudgps. Does the folder name has to be a specific name? I've read through the post's and didn't find and answer. Can you guys give me a little help?
You can find a hint in /opt/cloudgps/providers.ini:
Code:
# fileFormat and urlFormat are used with sprintf with three integers: zoom, x, y
       
[OpenStreetMap I]

fileFormat=/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/%d/%d/%d.png
So for example the tile with whole world on zoom 0 should be named:
/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/0/0/0.png

It would be very helpful to show us your file structure. You could for example run those commands in x-terminal and paste the output here:
Code:
cd /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/
find . | head -n 20

_invisible_ 2011-11-09 16:09
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1120448)
You can find a hint in /opt/cloudgps/providers.ini:
Code:
# fileFormat and urlFormat are used with sprintf with three integers: zoom, x, y
       
[OpenStreetMap I]

fileFormat=/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/%d/%d/%d.png
So for example the tile with whole world on zoom 0 should be named:
/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/0/0/0.png

It would be very helpful to show us your file structure. You could for example run those commands in x-terminal and paste the output here:
Code:
cd /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I/
find . | head -n 20
Hy thanks for the help :)
this is the output for the command


/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I # find . | head -n 20
.
./14
./14/9356
./14/9355
./14/9357
./14/9358
./14/9359
./14/9360
./0
./0/0
./1
./1/1
./1/0
./2
./2/2
./2/3
./2/1
./2/0
./4
./4/9
/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I # 2

Rob1n 2011-11-09 16:20
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _invisible_ (Post 1120735)
Hy thanks for the help :)
this is the output for the command


/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I # find . | head -n 20
.
./14
./14/9356
./14/9355
./14/9357
./14/9358
./14/9359
./14/9360
./0
./0/0
./1
./1/1
./1/0
./2
./2/2
./2/3
./2/1
./2/0
./4
./4/9
/home/user/MyDocs/.maps/OpenStreetMap I # 2
There doesn't look to be any actual files in there, just directories (that or there's a level missed out). Can you try "find . -type f | head -n 20"?

dwaradzyn 2011-11-09 16:21
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _invisible_ (Post 1120735)
Hy thanks for the help :)
this is the output for the command
There is not a single *.png file in this list - maybe you only have directories there?

_invisible_ 2011-11-09 16:28
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1120745)
There is not a single *.png file in this list - maybe you only have directories there?
there are the png files there :(
now i have another problem :(
it say's " 2 batteries founddrawGLScene GL_ERROR: 500
it stars but after 2 minutes it crash :(
any idea?

dwaradzyn 2011-11-09 16:35
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _invisible_ (Post 1120751)
there are the png files there :(
now i have another problem :(
it say's " 2 batteries founddrawGLScene GL_ERROR: 500
it stars but after 2 minutes it crash :(
any idea?
Please do the following:
1. Paste here the contents of your /home/user/.cloudgps/config.ini.
2. Delete/rename above mentioned file and start CloudGPS again. Post back here if it helped.

_invisible_ 2011-11-09 16:47
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1120754)
Please do the following:
1. Paste here the contents of your /home/user/.cloudgps/config.ini.
2. Delete/rename above mentioned file and start CloudGPS again. Post back here if it helped.
Here it is
"
[CurrentView]
zoom=1
tilex=5
tiley=2147483644
x=131.47897338867188
y=-inf

[Options]
tileProvider=OpenStreetMap I
geocodingProvider=CloudMade
routingProvider=Google
loadLastRoute=0"

I deleted and it work again :) verry thansks

in a few moments i will isue again the command for folder structure that Rob1n givit to me.


PS. Also the offline mode with tiles is now working :) many thanks for the help guys .
Tomorrow i will donate to your aplication because is zaaa best :)
I don;'t have money on the card today :( but tommorow you are on my list :)

Thanks again

dwaradzyn 2011-11-09 16:59
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _invisible_ (Post 1120761)
tiley=2147483644
Thanks for your report. This shows that value of tilex and tiley can go way out of range due to some bug. If you are able to reproduce this issue it would be very helpful to put some info about it here. Currently I have no idea how to reproduce this.

Because this is not the first time I see a user with this issue and the reason for this bug still remains unknown I will simply remove the bug outcome in next release. I will limit those values to valid range during config file load so next time it will be enough to restart the app after this bug occurs.

_invisible_ 2011-11-09 17:02
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1120771)
Thanks for your report. This shows that value of tilex and tiley can go way out of range due to some bug. If you are able to reproduce this issue it would be very helpful to put some info about it here. Currently I have no idea how to reproduce this.

Because this is not the first time I see a user with this issue and the reason for this bug still remains unknown I will simply remove the bug outcome in next release. I will limit those values to valid range during config file load so next time it will be enough to restart the app after this bug occurs.
I will try to reproduce and if i have success i will post here what i did exactly.
Thanks :)

dwaradzyn 2011-11-13 23:17
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
A little progress update. I have uploaded a quick and dirty made video (http://vimeo.com/32046349) in which you can see how a few of newly developed features for N9 will look like, including:
- new onscreen menu,
- changing map provider,
- new popup menu,
- multitouch support,
- compass support.

Work still need to be done for onscreen keyboard and some settings menu.

After N9 release I plan to work on N900 release too.

xes 2011-11-14 09:27
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
@dwaradzyn
hey man.... what can i say.... LOOKS REALLY GREAT!!! :eek:

PS.
waiting your N900's release ...wishing you could release it just before someone offers you a job in n a v i g o or t o m t o m software house.... ;)

Keferen 2011-11-16 08:15
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
wow the N9 version looks epic. but i think there needs to be a way to change 2D/3D on the map view without having to go to settings. mayne ot can replace the zoom slider as cloudgpsN9 version has pinch zoom and rotate ?

dwaradzyn 2011-11-16 18:32
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keferen (Post 1124253)
wow the N9 version looks epic. but i think there needs to be a way to change 2D/3D on the map view without having to go to settings. mayne ot can replace the zoom slider as cloudgpsN9 version has pinch zoom and rotate ?
You can change zoom to desired level very quickly using onscreen buttons and zoom slider. I would rather leave this useful feature as it is.

I was concerned about removing 3D button from main screen also. But in practice you can enter menu and toggle 3D mode very quickly (do not have to wait for the animation to be finished - the menu also works during the animation). It takes a quick "tap tap" to toggle 3D in a fraction of second.

I am also considering adding new gestures: two fingers swipe down to enter 3D mode and two fingers swipe up to enter 2D. What that be OK?

xes 2011-11-18 13:37
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
...impatience is a bad disease..... but curiosity maybe worse!! :)

Any news for the N900's lovers? ;)

pskoczylas 2011-11-18 17:35
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
I'm impressed!

dwaradzyn 2011-11-18 22:21
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xes (Post 1125504)
...impatience is a bad disease..... but curiosity maybe worse!! :)

Any news for the N900's lovers? ;)
I do not have much news to share... I really hope that after a week full of work I will have strengths to finish all tasks necessary to make a release to OVI store for N9 by the end of this weekend.

Provided that I am successful at this I will start working on N900 release next weekend. The porting should be fairly easy, so I will hopefully be able to release 0.6.X for N900 by 27th this month. But I presume that some aspects will be not very smooth on N900 in first release.

Next steps will include optimising the menu and route handling and adding tracking capabilities (by this I mean recording your GPS movement as a track, importing tracks from file). After that is done simultaneous releases for N900 and N9 are planned with new features.

dwaradzyn 2011-11-20 14:56
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Little progress report: VKB is almost done. It is not using system VKB but instead it is an implementation from scratch. It looks like this:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/83/keyboarden.png

There is also support for other layouts and national characters:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/825/keyboardpl.png

And the config for layout looks like this:
Code:
{
  "layouts":[
      {
        "name":"English",
        "abbreviation":"EN",
        "lowercaseChars":[
            "qwertyuiop",
            "asdfghjkl",
            "zxcvbnm",
            ", ."
        ],
        "uppercaseChars":[
            "QWERTYUIOP",
            "ASDFGHJKL",
            "ZXCVBNM",
            ", ."
        ],
        "alternateLowercaseChars":[
            "~@#123_%()",
            "&$456+:;\"",
            "!7890/?",
            "- '"
        ],
        "alternateUppercaseChars":[
            "~@#123_%()",
            "&$456+:;\"",
            "!7890/?",
            "- '"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name":"Polish",
        "abbreviation":"PL",
        "lowercaseChars":[
            "qwertyuiop",
            "asdfghjkl",
            "zxcvbnm",
            ", ."
        ],
        "uppercaseChars":[
            "QWERTYUIOP",
            "ASDFGHJKL",
            "ZXCVBNM",
            ", ."
        ],
        "alternateLowercaseChars":[
            "  ę    ó ",
            "ąś      ł",
            "żźć  ń ",
            "- '"
        ],
        "alternateUppercaseChars":[
            "  Ę    Ó ",
            "ĄŚ      Ł",
            "ŻŹĆ  Ń ",
            "- '"
        ]
      }
  ]
}
I hope it is easy enough to figure out how the format works. Would you care providing layouts for other languages (not necessary in the format presented above - I can do the conversion)?

Thanks in advance.

dwaradzyn 2011-11-21 06:54
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Version 0.6.4 was submitted to QA at OVI Store yesterday.

Jaykie 2011-11-21 08:25
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Awesome! Can't wait.
Is it possible to use same map source as Mapsi is using (Paikkatietoikkuna WMS)?
Check config here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=122
Mapsi is great but smoothness of CloudGPS is something unique :)

dwaradzyn 2011-11-21 09:30
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
From the first glimpse those maps are completely different thing compared to OSM or Google. It is not supported now but I will look into it and try to add support in future releases.

Do we have a link to Mapsi source code?

Jaykie 2011-11-22 12:07
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1126715)
Do we have a link to Mapsi source code?
I asked orava and he said that Mapsi source code is not open but he's working on some other maps application which will be open source. His initial comment was that it may require a lot of work for cloudGPS to support different style of map tiles that mapsi is utilizing.

dwaradzyn 2011-11-24 14:50
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Version 0.6.4 is available in OVI Store: http://store.ovi.com/content/222534

dwaradzyn 2011-11-27 22:22
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Version 0.6.4 for N900 uploaded to extras-devel. This release will not be promoted to extras - its a development release and it introduces performance and stability problems.

On my N900 pure map panning is 45-50 fps, map zooming is 54 fps, onscreen menus are 35 fps and onscreen keyboard is 37fps. All those numbers are 60 on N950 with only a little frames dropped on CPU heavy moments - mostly unnoticeable and overall smooth. I will try to make it work smoother for N900 too in next release.

Also note that search textbox does not work in landscape mode. It works in portrait with new onscreen keyboard. Changing search/route service in Options can lead to application crash - still hunting that bug.

All GPS related code is now QtLocation based instead of liblocation from Maemo 5. Please provide feedback if that transition introduced any issues with GPS on N900. The same goes for accelerometer.

ade 2011-11-27 23:19
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1129761)
Version 0.6.4 for N900 uploaded to extras-devel. This release will not be promoted to extras - its a development release and it introduces performance and stability problems.

On my N900 pure map panning is 45-50 fps, map zooming is 54 fps, onscreen menus are 35 fps and onscreen keyboard is 37fps. All those numbers are 60 on N950 with only a little frames dropped on CPU heavy moments - mostly unnoticeable and overall smooth. I will try to make it work smoother for N900 too in next release.

Also note that search textbox does not work in landscape mode. It works in portrait with new onscreen keyboard. Changing search/route service in Options can lead to application crash - still hunting that bug.

All GPS related code is now QtLocation based instead of liblocation from Maemo 5. Please provide feedback if that transition introduced any issues with GPS on N900. The same goes for accelerometer.
Beautiful designed app. The portrait keyboard on the N900 is also very welcome.

However, I notice that zooming in after a search results end up rather out of scope of the actual location (and the location itself is also a bit shifted). Can't remember I experienced that in older versions, but I could be mistaken.

youmeego 2011-11-27 23:25
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
ui is not yet optimized for the meego harmatta. am i right

handaxe 2011-11-28 01:41
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
On my n900 CloudGPS does not start the gps. From CLI it reports that "GPS satellite info source initialised" but it does not run.

If I start the gps with say gpsjinni then Cloud still does not receive pos info.

tnx

superpj101 2011-11-28 02:15
Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 
I see on the FAQ that it can use modrana to download tiles. Can I use the db-storage based modrana tiles to here? thanks!


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