Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

If server responds with 404 not found (or any other error) for non existing tiles CloudGPS handles it correctly.

But server can also serve a map filled with junk ('this tile does not exist, try zooming out') and CloudGPS will politely present it as a map to user. CloudGPS just does not care what the tile contents is as long as it is a valid image.

Well it would be quite tough to detect if an image is a valid part of one of many kind of maps available or satellite imagery or traffic or weather or whatever else. The problem is not really solvable in general case.

But for specific servers it is solvable - maybe some support for that will come in future. As a workaround for now you can try lowering maxZoom value in /opt/cloudgps/providers.ini to prevent going to some zoom level for given provider.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Hi,

Thanks for this great program!

I have a mapset with a lot of tiles, generated by Mobile Altas Creator. To save directory entries on the file system, these tiles are in a tar file for each level.

Can CloudGPS support tarred tiles?

Thanks

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

There is no support for tarred tiles right now.
Mobile Atlas Creator is compatible with CloudGPS if you select "OSMTracker Tile Storage" format. I plan to support sqlite tile storage in future.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

You are right, it is not reasonable to expect cloudgps to detect if a tile from the server is a 'no more zoom levels' tile.

However it is feasible to allow cloudgps to zoom +1 step more than the maximum zoom (as set in providers.ini) and to simply stretch the current tile.

This would allow us to 'zoom in' on the last tile, this would make thinks slightly easier when using maps with limited zoom features (stoppng at level 16 for example) in the car while driving.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Well this is exactly how it works now. When you are at max zoom you can go to zoom + 1 and CloudGPS will simply resize max zoom tiles. It is also possible to have tiles resized on other zoom levels using custom scaling. Just press shift and tap zoom out icon and you will see it.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Holy ****, I didn't even know that!

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Hurray! I am on the list of people accepted in N9 Devkit Community Program. That means few things:
1. I am very happy because I will be playing with N950 soon :)
2. CloudGPS will be there for N9 soon.
3. Development in upcoming months should gain in pace and making all functionalities accessible using touchscreen only has higher priority now.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Well done, i was hoping to see your name on the list :D

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I wont be buying an N9 (I suspect) but I'm happy to see you get some small bonus for all your efforts with this amazing app :-)

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

dwaradzyn, you may wish read what this guy has to say about extracting global elevation data from online several databases to create 3d maps.

part 1
part 2
part 3

I can think of NO currently available map program open source OR commercial on a mobile device that offers this feature. Holy **** it would be a killer feature.

Just saying.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Indeed, 3D terrain and globe view (as in Google Earth and Marble) is planned and I hope my implementation will deliver it without sacrificing smooth operation. It requires a lot of work though. It will surely be educating and fun to do that.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

A little teaser from next version:
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4...dgpsver053.png

Will be released in next couple of days.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

What do you mean by very old maps?

Very basic route planning will be there in next version - it will allow to select route start and end and it will get directions from Google Maps or CloudMade and draw them. Full TSP (in other words routing with waypoints) will be there in one of next versions.

Support for sqllite tile storage is also comming (this summer). App menu (at least with few functions) is planned before end of current month.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I am not ashamed. I love you Dwaradzyn. (no homo).

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I have noticed that Open Street Map has maps that are outdated by several years in some areas. I think that is what he means.

Will it be able to share the sqlite tile storage with other apps (like modRana for example)?

an option to keep backlight on would be nice too, I want to do a comparison between different apps and also compare how the use of 3d hardware acc. affect battery useage.unfortunately i havent had very much free time to do it myself yet, has anyone else done some comparison on that?

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

As the name suggests CloudGPS uses cloud based services. For example routing algorithm is handled by external web service (such as Google Maps Directions). For now I do not have to implement low level algorithms.

In distant future I plan to start working on vector rendering and all-offline functionality using OSM data. Even then I would not be coding everything from scratch. There is for example a ready to use routing daemon for OSM called monav.

Some areas have much better coverage than commercial alternatives but others lack. Well OSM works like Wikipedia. Everyone can contribute.

Yes.

Backlight keeping is already implemented but does not work due to some bug. I will investigate it.

I do not know about any battery life comparisons done for different apps. I suspect that CloudGPS will be the most power hungry app in test like that. It is easy to see why: smooth transitions and animations are equal constant redrawing. For now this is exactly what I want - use full device potential to deliver smoothness even at the cost of battery life.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

@dwaradzyn i wish i could send you some cake for awesome work on cloudgps keep up the great work mate

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

This app is great!!! I use it every day.
BTW. Can You do something with entering numbers in search?
Because now You have to press and hold blue arrow to enter number.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I was a longer trip with car, I used your app, and there is some practical advice (in preference order):

- Full offline mode (I preload the map tiles, but the app every half hour pop a connect window).
- Zoom (not map zoom), to see the letters. Maybe double pixel mode? N900 have good screen resolution, but in a moving car you can't read the label of cities or streets.
- Set contrast. In some map there isn't enough contrast, so you can't see the streets in a sunny summer day.
- Upside down portrait mode. (As I wrote before: because N900 charger's placement)
- If you set a marker as a target, you need an arrow, which is show the target's position if it isn't in screen.
- Permanent markers (or POIs). (To find those quick.)

I know these are many works, so I am patient, and if you share the source, I try to help you. May I get the current sources? I want to help you with implement some simple features, but the sources in the garage are 6 months old. (Or I can't found those...)

I like your app, it was very helpful the last some days, I will send you some donation today. :)

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Will be there soon (this summer).

Double pixel mode is already there. Hold Shift and tap zoom out icon to see it. Bigger font for menus and status bar needs proper TTF and unicode support. TTF support will be quite easy (because of SDL_TTF) but there are problems with unicode.

SDL 1.2 does not have full support for unicode, and SDL 1.3 does not work on N900. This is something I would like to be helped with - deliver national characters input with hw keyboard and SDL. Anyone willing to help?

If you can live with OSM maps you can use CloudMade with custom map style. I planned to provide inverted colors (because its performance cost is zero). Adjusting image without shaders would be pretty CPU intensive. I will consider adding contrast setup in future. For now there are more needed features like multiple layers support.

Will be there soon.

Please wait a few days and when 0.5.x will be released the sources will be available in extras-devel. Right now I am working on them and they are not really ready to be released. If you want latest published sources (for version 0.4.8) you can find them here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ce/c/cloudgps/

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Once again, awesome job. My country is not eligible for paypal but i'm going to ask my little brother who lives in the US to open a paypal account and donate, again, awesome!

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

wow this is awesome! very fluid and smooth. brilliant! cant wait to see more of this. searching for locations is right on. cannot wait for route tracking to be added.



some testing feedback that ive not read in any of the posts thus far.

- when zoomed in moving around with your finger can quickly accelerate or be over responsive.
- loving the caching of google tiles! but when going through some of the open streetmaps it comes up with a 404 error and a long line of barely readable text.
- on start up and gps active and gathered a position, it should automatically center 'there' and track. instant bearings.
- when in 3D mode, the 'tracked position' or 'centre' should be in the lower 1/3rd of the screen, and not the center as it currently is. this gives you greater perspective of whats coming up. i dont think we need to see where we have been that much.

possible future options ?
- from determining the speed traveling it could change the zoom level to reflect what visibility you should have of where you are ?
- when route tracking is in, could also choose an address from a contact in contact list if they have an address loaded.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Thank you for your kind words. As a matter of fact I have just uploaded version that has preliminary support for routing (changelog in a minute).

Fixed in 0.5.5.
Please try running it from x-terminal using this command:
and collect errors on terminal. Then paste them here and I will try to help.
It was that way on some early versions but I disabled it on purpose. Sometimes (ie. right after a reboot) N900 reports current position based only on cellular operator. This gives startup location accuracy of hundreds of kilometres and I was not really happy with it jumping in the centre of Poland all of a sudden.

I am happy with having last used location and tapping "big blue dot" after I see that GPS has fix. Perhaps this will be configurable in future.

Completely agree. This will be improved in future releases.

Will consider it but with lower priority. There are still plenty of important features to implement.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Version 0.5.5 uploaded to extras-devel.

• Route calculation using CloudMade and Google Maps (press R to cycle): press and hold on map to invoke popup menu, select Directions from/to here. You can also tap and drag route start or end and route will be recalculated.
  
• Turn by turn instructions are displayed on locations near route (within 30 meters). Distance to next turn by turn direction is calculated as well as distance to route destination (this one is not accurate due to some bug).
  
• Route is rendered with rounded lines. Line thickness is calculated automatically based on current zoom level.
  
• Last calculated route is stored locally and reloaded (without using network) on next startup.
  
• Route overview flyby – camera will follow route from start to end. Press D to activate. Works best on high zoom levels (>=17)
  
• Off-line mode (press Z to toggle).
  
• Added UNICODE to ASCII conversion on every string returned from search and routing providers.

This version is the one submitted to Meego Coding Competition 2011. This means that during competition there will be feature freeze. I had to rush hard to make it on time with this release so expect bugs in this version. Do you think it stands a chance in competition?

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I think the 0.5.5 package is missing json as dependency.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Daradzyn, I think this almost certainly deserves to win its catagory. You have my vote.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Nice catch. I think I have disabled dh_shlibdeps rule because it was troubling me with packaging for N950. There are no new depedencies in this version so those who are upgrading will not have any problem. I will try to reupload a package with fixed dependencies tomorrow.

BTW. I have uploaded preview video which will show how to use route setup and how route overview looks like: http://vimeo.com/27126585. It shows slightly older version with quite a few bugs visible even on the video. The version uploaded is better but still not bug free - distance to destination is not calculated correctly.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I am anxiously awaiting the fix for the dependancy problem. If there is another way to resolve it let me know. Thanks.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

I have uploaded version 0.5.6 with (hopefully) fixed dependecies to extras-devel. Please update and let me know if it installs fine.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Just finished testing the flyover route feature - just awe inspiring. I congratulate you on what is already a brilliant effort! i'll bet I'm not the only one all-too-regularly checking back here, anxious to hear about the next build.

The only issue I'm experiencing relates to the CSSU I think - so i realize that it may not be a priority or even a possibility to amend at this stage. I've set it to force autorotation as certain applications require it for usable portrait mode. When i rotate cloudgps, it simply maintains a landscape layout so that what you see is the left half of the (landscape) map display and a blank space below it. Interestingly, the interface rotates perfectly as normal if i keep the keyboard open.

This could be related, as it happened after the rotation issue, but I also noticed that the long-press dialog box would no longer visibly show up beneath the applied finger - however, i think i noticed a corner of it at the edge of the screen, suggesting that it was showing up; just not where it was supposed to be.

thanks again for brilliant work.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

cloudgps is just awesome and very fast even on a 3G connection but there two things if you dont mind me sayin that wud make it even better... firstly to have improved search results for a location cause sometimes it produce a result in a whole another country lol... secondly to have a keyboard shortcuts listed somewhere within the program :)... keep up the fab work mate

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Installed fine. Looks impressive. Looking forward to playing around with it tomorrow. Will report back.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

change the search engine to 'google local search' for a more uh, localised search. ('s' button).

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

How have you managed to download the latest version, as I cannot get it via HAM or FAM and even apt-get install shows the old version?

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Enable development repository.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Cheers but it looks like the repos might be down for me in the UK at the moment.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Does that mean, now we can have search based on the Google Maps??? If Yes.. Where do i make the editing???

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

WTF are you talking about?

Do you mean 'where do I type search terms?' In that case you press the binoculars button on the bottom left area of the screen.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

Relax Mate.... Sorry for nooby question.. Just wanted to know how to change the search provider from CloudSearch to Google. Juts noticed that pressing the 's' does the trick.

Thanks anyway for ur time..

EDIT: Was under the impression that i need to edit some backend files to enable this search.

Re: [WIP] CloudGPS 0.4.8 - smoothest maps for N900
 

One of the best map applications. Even though its in beta and features are being added the fluid experience has been there from day one.

Thanks you very much for developing this :)