Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Hi, I'm new to the N800 and new to Rapier. Could somebody point me to a place to learn more? I installed Rapier on OS2008, and it mostly is working, but I have a couple of problems/questions. It doesn't seem able to read non-Bible modules (e.g. Josephus), and uninstalling a module doesn't work. Thanks.

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

This is true, only Bible text module are taken care of.

This is also true and should be fixed in next version.

Current workaround is to use installmgr in a terminal.
You need to use the SWORD_PATH environment variable to tell where you store the modules.

By example:
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[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > SWORD_PATH=/home/user/sword/ installmgr -l

Installed Modules:

[ESV] - English Standard Version
[Josephus] - Josephus: The Complete Works
[KJV] - King James Version (1769) with Strongs Numbers and Morphology

[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > SWORD_PATH=/home/user/sword/ installmgr -u Josephus

Removed module: [Josephus]
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Next release should be ready next week or the week after (i just need to fix some bug when reinstalling after a backup and it should be ready).

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Yes, I was able to remove the module manually. (And move the others--I had put them in the internal memory instead of on the memory card!) Looks good now. Thanks! I look forward to the update.

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

The Strong's double click feature is great - I've been using it constantly in my Bible study. Reading the definitions, seeing how the same Gk/Heb word is used in other passages using the search pane. Thanks, this software is my most used app on the N800 now (along with maemopad+ to write notes - oneday if Rapier includes notes, that'll be replaced too!) :D

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Pamadio, thanks for your work on Rapier! Works fine for me! Additionally, I was able to locate instructions for making my own modules and got NIV and NASB working on Rapier (disclaimer: yes, I know these translations are licensed, but I had already purchased a license through laridian.com for my pocketpc, which I'm no longer using). Instructions here:

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/develop/swordmodule/
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index....vTools:Modules

Basically, I found the text online and wrote a simple C++ program to parse the text into the verse per line format and then grabbed the vpl2mod.exe program from:

http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/

You have to create your own .conf file but it's not hard at all when you're importing a module of the rawText type. I had to transfer the modules and the conf files onto my external mini-sd card.

Indexing my ESV, NIV, and NASB modules took about 15-20 minutes and that kinda freaked me out, and then when I tried a test search for "man" I thought the machine hung cause it was taking so long, but it ended up taking around 70 seconds.

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Ran into some snags the other day while attempting to import the NAB. The vpl2mod.exe program that is available apparently checks text versification against the KJV schema. The NAB had quite a few extra verses that are not found in the KJV and threw a bunch of warnings at me. Come to think of it, I don't recall whether or not it threw flags for extra *books* in the NAB.

Anyways, this helped me find some bugs in my original parser and when I fixed it and re-ran my NASB text on it, I discovered that 3 John 1:15 only exists in the NASB! That is to say, 3 John 1:14 is 1 verse in KJV but it's split into 2 verses in the NASB. And because 3 John 1:15 is not recognized as being a valid KJV reference, you get a warning. Yay.

After doing some googling this morning I found many posts and threads pointing this to be a known concern within the Sword community, though I'm not sure of how they're moving to resolve it. I took a look at the source for Sword as well and found that the versification validation schema is hardcoded into canon.h and therefore modifications to vpl2mod.cpp to ignore validation or canon.h to accomodate extra verses has implications not only for importing certain modules but also accessing them as the tree-based GUI is undoubtedly referencing canon.h as well.

So, I'm going to drop my attempts to import NAB and content myself to reading it online when comparing notes with Catholic friends. However, I still need the NASB for seminary, so I'm just going to modify the NASB text to merge 3 John 1:14-15.

Also while researching into this topic, I discovered some bash script utilities that allow users to download the text from online Bible sites and compile them into modules for import into Sword. They can be found here:

http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/scripts.tar.gz

There's an interesting text.bugs file included that describes other deviations from the standard KJV versification schema and suggests reasonable means of accomodating them.

Pamadio, don't know how active you are here on the forums. May I suggest creating a thread for Rapier specifically in the Apps section? I'd like to contribute towards getting dictionaries and concordances working on Rapier, as well as other features such as personal markup. As in, formatting key words or phrases as we read so we'll remember them, as well as adding notes. I see a lot of potential for the internet tablet to be used as a personal Bible study tool and think it'd be great to have this capability built into Rapier =)

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

I would welcome a new thread as a place to find help...I would like to port the NRSV text to Rapier, but have no clue how to do so...I would like to have some references (as has been contributed in past posts) to help me through this.

Thanks for sharing!

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Hi there.

I have created a new thread (http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...d.php?p=149571) in the Apps forums for question specific to rapier.

Help is welcome :-)

Redshift, please create a login on http://garage.maemo.org and click the "Request to join" button on the rapier page (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/rapier/) or send me your garage login.

Please also subscribe to the rapier-devel mailing list (https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/rapier-devel)

You may also want to subscribe to the sword devel mailing list (http://crosswire.org/sword/lists/index.jsp) and hang out on irc (freenode #sword) to get in touch with sword developpers.

As far as creating NIV or NASB sword compatible modules is concerned, Crosswire would not be allowed to distribute them for copyright reason (I feel really weird that copyright can be set on bible translation, but hey, this is the world we live in :-) ) .

The site you mentionned (http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/) contain enough information to let you create such module that you can use for yourself (but not distribute). I made a NIV module successfully with them.

I'm not currently coding on rapier, but was thinking of rewriting it again, with gettext support and libglade, and making something more finger friendly as requested by Antoine.

Trying to use a html rendering (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/python-gtkhtml2/) instead of a gtk textview could also be a good idea.

Thanks for your feedback and help proposal !

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

I almost started a new thread on this-

I tried Rapier on my 770 (using OS2007HE) and abandoned it as Rapier seems unfinished compared to Gnomesword or Bibletime. It also is very demanding of resources. (Seems to be a 800 or 810 suited program more than the 770)

I installed Garnet VM (Formerly Palm OS) and Bibleplus with the settings the way I had them on my Tungsten E I sold to buy the 770. My wife and I had twin Palm and I had them both set the same way. I have the advantage that all my Bibles were on the SD Card in the Palm.

I set the VM background image the same as my home page and so the top and side bars disappear, the background is still there and the Palm looks like my Tungsten E did. It appears seamless on the 770. It also appears the same as my wifes with the program running.

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

If anyone has the scripts for creating sword modules would it be possible for you to send them to me, the ones from http://karl.kleinpaste.org/sword/scripts/ as he has taken the scripts off because of people not following the rules,
I previously had them, but rebuilt my computer and when I went to get them again they were missing

So If anyone can get them to me that would be great

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

In case you missed this post earlier, this is another bible program

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17526

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Redshift, did I read your post correctly, that you found a way to use Laridian bibles in Rapier?

I've been a Laridian customer for years, and own NIV for both the Palm platform and Windows mobile. I installed Rapier on my N800 but have since taken it off due to the lack of the NIV.

I looked at your references but the wiki does not specifically mention the Laridian file format that I could see. Is it actually one of the ones listed by another name?

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, I would be very grateful for some fairly explicit instructions on converting the Laridian modules.

Walt

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 

Hi Walts,

Sorry for the very late reply, I'd sold my N810 a while back and had stopped checking the forums. In answer to your question, no, I did not convert from a Laridian Bible module into a Crosswire one.

Thanks,
Jerry