Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

You can't just use dd straight from the image, otherwise you end up with just a smaller chunk of the image. You'll need to mount the image as a filesystem. Assuming you've got all the necessary kernel modules built, you should be able to do:

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Well i've reinstalled titans kernel now but can do another restore if you want... wouldn't be a problem

Thats what I thought

Yeah sorry, it just stopped at about 60% and rebooted, then couldn't get it to boot(obviously) and wouldn't reflash with normal flashing procedure(with pr1.2 image + flasher) as would get stuck at byte 1024 saying the 'resource was busy' while flashing. only way i could get it do anything was with flasher + the .img file I made with your menu...

but all good now

Thanks for all your hard work, will try the menu way again next time I have to restore, just in case it was a one off.

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I tried that to with the exception of ubifs.. didn't think it of that it was ubifs. ;)

Thanks!

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When I try this I get:
What did I do wrong?

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Hi,

I am having trouble restoring images.

As you have probably guessed creating the back up images worked okay.

I boot up with the keypad open, BackupMenu starts.
I press 'r' to restore a backup.
I press 'p' to restore OptFS.
I press 'p' to tell BackupMenu to look at eMMC/MyData for the images. (I only have a 1Gb SD card which is pretty full).
I press 'a' to restore the previously saved '20100725-backup-optfs.img'

At this point nothing further happens; the Select File screen remains, I have tried leaving it for a while (4 hours!) just in case something was happening in the background but still the screen remains unchanged.

This happens with both OptFS and RootFS images although I have managed to restore a RootFS image via flasher-3.5.

I would be grateful if anyone can tell me where I am going wrong.

Cheers

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dj_steve -

Just wondering if you've made any progress on this. I know you're doing incredible work on NITdroid and I'm currently waiting for the arrival of a microSD card so that I can test it out, but I'd love to be able to have BackupMenu installed as well, and usable without any conflicts. Do you think that will be possible? Thanks!

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Hm, what -version- of BackupMenu are you using?
Also, what keyboard layout do you have? Does the first row of keys start "qwerty..." or perhaps "azerty..."?
My system is currently only setup to deal with the American layout,
and for that system, the 'A' key is on the second row of the keyboard, second key from the left side(next to the blue alt key).

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

Hi, I am using version 0.31-2 and the keyboard is the qwerty layout and the 'A' key is 2nd row, 2nd column as you describe. I didn't know that was American, learn something new every day.

Thanks for your help.

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Alright then, things should be working right.
Note for future reference that my system is designed such that once it accepts input, you will see something different on the screen - For example, if there was a bug that made it crash when it got a certain combination, it would most likely display "loading xxx", and then crash, not crash at a "waiting for input" screen.

Try pressing B, C, D etc - Perhaps the input-checker counter is off by one?
Also, if that doesn't fix it, make a second dummy ".img" file on the eMMC(contents can be blank) - this will trick it into thinking there's two images, in case its not accepting input due to an error in the "counter-checker" script-chunk.

Let me know how those go; If you can get it working(or not), I will know what to fix and fix it in a day or two.

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Hello, i installed 'bootmenu-n900' from the extras-devel repository and have done a backup of the rootFS and opt, both went well.
My question is: is it supposed to start at once when i boot with keyboard open? I was hoping on having it as an option in the bootmenu instead.
Currently i have moved the script away from /etc/bootmenu.d/ for the bootmenu to show again.

Otherwise seen no problems. If i corrupt my fs again this will save me about 1 day of restoring (reinstalling,configurations etc). Awesome work!

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Hi All

please i need your help,i can not escape or close the script.
how can i open my n900 normally without this screen,every time when i restart the phone i get the same script please help me.

thanks

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hi Almahdi,
please i m not expert and i don t know why this script appear in my phone after restart it,
please can you help me to open my n900 normally.

thanks

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please expert i need your help,i dont know why in the first reboot after taking the phone from the service center in my country this script appear,and from that time for 6 hours know im checking for solutions no results
please i want to open my phone normally without this script.
every time when i restart the handset the script appear i dont know the solutions

please any one can help me.

thanks in advance.

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Close the keyboard when booting? :)

First post:
So to "not use it" close the keyboard and reboot... ;)

And please stop, double, no triple posting... That doesn't exactly speed things up... :)

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thank you verry much Dr Wilken,
but before was not like this,the problem was with the speaker so i send it to the care center. maybe the program was changed.or software updated.

any way thank you verry much,and i m so proud to get friends like you experts.

thanks

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No problem lartistemoez... I'm glad it worked... ;)

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I'm pretty sure that it launches multiple scripts in alphebetical order - Just make your other script named something -before- mine(say add a 1 to the front?), and it should boot that instead.

Then, you can probably launch mine by simply adding "/etc/bootmenu.d/BackupMenu.item" where its needed in the other script.


:P Added to first post.

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thank you guys you are the best.
:)

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I tried pressing B, C, D etc, but if I press any key - apart from the ones suggested in the current menu - the screen returns to the main menu.

If I create an empty .img file it is found and offered as a menu choice (b). As soon as I press 'b' the screen returns to the main menu.

I get the same behaviour if I choose the rootfs image (c) file rather than the optfs image.

I will try creating another fresh image from scratch later.

Thanks

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Thanks. Fixed in 0.32-1
It seems I had a bit of an error in my "button press value -> usable letter code" line. That has now been fixed.

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you did nothing wrong, the mentioned way does not work!

correct way of ubifs handling: http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/f...l#L_loop_mount

cheers

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0.32 seems to stall out after reaching 251MB when dd'ing out the rootfs.

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Hi and thank you very much for this great app!

I successfully created backups for my Opt FS and my Root FS. I have no memory card so they were stored in MyDocs. Nevertheless, I messed up something with my applications and I need to restore the Opt FS now. And the problem is that, when I reboot in Backup mode by keeping the keyboard slided out, I can't restore the img which were created because I can't see them in the menu. They exist though and they are not empty (one of 4 Go and the other of about 260 Mo). The only file listed in the restore menu is an img file which is actually a rom for PSX4ALL. :/

Any idea on how to restore my system? I have a job travel on saturday and it would be great if I could have a full working phone before leaving, because I'm not that serene when having to travel without any communication mean! :]

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Does it finish though? Remember, the numbers given are approximate - good for a rough estimate of time remaining, but not much else.
if it jumps to the next screen, it copied it all.


Ok, lets see.
One, what version are you running?
Two, can you check if the files actually do/still exist by:
1. Reboot with the keyboard open to get into my script
2. at the main screen, plug the N900 into your computer via USB
3. hit the key for USB mass storage mode, then on your PC, wait for it to mount and check to make sure the files *do* exist.
4. Write down the names of the files, if they exist, and paste them here.
Also, you may want to see about running chkdsk when you connect to it via USB - It can't hurt.

Let me know how these turn out; I'll do my best to try to fix it for you.
So long as the files exist, and you are running a recent version(with the terminal mode), we can do a "manual restore" from there if the normal restore won't work.

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Many thanks Robbie for your quick answer. I don't know how to check it, but as far as I know, I'm running the last version of Maemo (I flashed in late July), PR 1.2, and I think that BackupMenu is up to date because it was therefore installed in late July too).

I haven't my USB cable here with me, but I'll try what you said tonight (18H30 @ GMT -3 hours) at the hotel and I'll keep you in touch!

I leave tomorrow so perhaps you won't have time to help me before the departure, but thanks anyways for your concern about my problem!

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OK I finally wen't back to the hotel for lunch and I did what you said:

The files do exist. They are named 20100725-backup-optfs.img (4.19 GB) and 20100725-backup-rootfs.img (257 MB). When I explore the N900 with Windows in USB Mass Storage mode, they are at root (same directory as .documents, .videos, and so on).

The CHKDSK didn't find any error.

As the backup files may be compatible with the Maemo-flasher, perhaps I can restore them by copying them on my laptop and flashing the N900 with them? Too bad I run Seven x64. :/

Maybe it is noteworthy to mention I run an European version of the N900 (Azerty keyboard and so on, I don't know if European N900 are different on the software-side)

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OK. The version should be shown at the top of my app, in white text on blue background.

I think the problem is the EU version.
My app's been designed for the US layout(I only get the key-numbers, not the letters they are attached to, software side), which is:
-QWERTYUIOP,-
-ASDFGHJKL.--
-ZXCVBNM ---

When asked to press a key, press the key that -would- be that letter on the US layout.
So, when asked to press "Q", press the key that would be row#1, key#2 from the left.

I'd bet that will solve the problem. If not, let me know.

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Ok, so my version of BackupMenu is the 0.32.

To restore both RootFS and OptFS (which I want to do since I screwed up the dpkg system and I don't think that restoring OptFS will fix it), correct me if I'm wrong, I have to press successively R, T then P keys. If right, then my problem might not be due to the keyboard layout since these keys have the same row/column coordinates on both QWERTY and AZERTY layouts, as you can see on this picture (dont pay attention to the circles, I just found this picture on Google):

http://www.maemofrance.fr/wp-content...900-Qwerty.png

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Ok, when I reboot and press R, P, and T:
1. it waits for a few seconds after pressing T
2. It shows "Select file: RootFS image", and gives a list.

When you press that sequence, what do you see?
Do you just see nothing at that select file screen, or does it not -get- to that select screen?

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I get to that select screen, but the only file I can select is the PSX4ALL rom I mentionned in my first post here. However, it is not in MyDocs but in MyDocs/Roms/PSX.

Now I have another serious problem, not related at all I suppose: my N900 is chain rebooting. It occurs unplugged (no way to get the PIN code screen), USB plugged, and it even occurs when booting in BackupMenu mode (I can actually see the menu and I can navigate, but it finally reboots after several seconds). It really worries me because I'm affraid this is CPU-related and I see no way to fix it since the problem persists when the phone is USB connected, thus I can't flash it.

The world's against me. :|

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Can you try moving those two files to a different location on MyDocs? Say put them in your Roms directory.

I'm trying to figure out whats wrong, but even if I -do- solve the issue code-wise, it won't help you - You'd have to upgrade to a new version, and thats nigh impossible from your current status - So, we are going to have to see if we can't hack it into working right.

Chain rebooting - Hm... Sounds like something to do with the watchdog timer(which reboots things if it thinks things have gotten locked up).
With the OS, I'm betting its because the OPTfs is gone or damaged, and it won't boot without it .
With my backupmenu, have you had it reboot when you were actually -doing- something, or only after a period of inactivity?

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

just one quick question before making install and back up my stuff, does this app really work i mean to restore verything u backup , OS,apps, setting.....

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Generally, yes. I have successfully done it, a couple of others have too.
There have been a number of glitches over time though, but I think I fixed them; you should be able to backup and restore with no issues.
In order to back everything up, you need to backup both the RootFS and the OptFS. Same for restoring.

If you want to check and make sure, make a backup, change a few settings, then attempt to restore that backup - I'd definitely do this, especially with potential problems on non-US-keyboard layouts.
Let me know if it doesn't work; I'll fix it. But, unless I know of problems, I can't fix them.

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No, I can't figure out how to move the files because of my rebooting problem. I can't get into Mass Storage Mode since I can't even get to the PIN code screen.

You're probably right about watchdog because when booting BackupMenu, it says that /dev/twl4030_wdt and /dev/watchdog were not found. It boots anyway and everything seems to work normally, but it reboots after several seconds, without calling a particular fonction to trigger the reboot. So no inactivity nor particular command to get into rebooting state, juste a given delay and *poof*, it reboots. Actually, it doesn't reboot when I am in BackupMenu, it just shutdown.

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That doesn't sound good. I'm pretty sure that means that the low-level OS files on the RootFS are damaged and or missing, at least some of them.

You are probably going to want to:
1. Flash to PR1.2(Do -not- use the eMMC image, just the main image)
2. reboot. Assuming everything goes well,
3. Enable extras-devel and install my application
4. reboot into my app, see if the files are detected -now-. If you are still having trouble, then reboot into your (blank) system, change the names, and try again.

Let me know how that goes.

Re: [Announce] BackupMenu - Backup & restore OS images(+ other features)
 

I finally managed to solve my boot problem using Maemo-flasher 3.5 to flash the RootFS. I did that because it doesn't alter MyDocs, so my boot issue disappeared (as well as my dpkg issue) but my data are still there, including the backups files I created using BackupMenu.

I'll try moving the files into the Roms directory as you said, but if it still doesn't work I think I'll just manually reinstall all my apps, or restore them using the built-in option of the Application Manager. It won't be as good as a full restore from BackupMenu, but it will help.

Of course, I'll keep you in touch for the BackupMenu attempts as soon as possible, but for now... Time to prepare my luggage! :D

[Edit] Oh, you just answered me to flash when I posted to say I flashed. Cool, happy to see this was the right idea. :D I'm updating Maemo 5 right now but the wifi is extremely slow here and there are 113 MB to download, I'll of course install BackupMenu just after that and try again.

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Ok, great.
Now, just so you know, how my script finds image files to list at that menu is it literally runs(for mydocs):
Then formats the resulting list. This means it *should* find -any- .img files on the whole partition.

Edit:
As I promised I was going to do:
A user sent me a copy of his RootFS and OptFS backups so that I could test them on my N900, see if the whole system works.
I have named them "other20100729-backup-rootfs.img" and "other20100729-backup-optfs.img".
I have backed up my own OS and files, and will (attempt to) restore them later.

1. I copied both of these files to my N900's MyDocs partition.
2. I rebooted into BackupMenu, version 0.33(0.32 + a minor bugfix I added today).
3. I pressed R for restore, T for both RootFS and OptFS, P for the eMMC.
4. I was asked to select the RootFS image, and I pressed F for the "other....rootfs.img", Same for the OptFS, and I pressed E for the "other....optfs.img".
5. I was asked "are you sure?", with the full location/path to each file shown. The files selected were correct, so I pressed P to proceed.
6. The process started, restoring RootFS first. I'm getting 3-4MB/sec usually.
7.Process finished, attempted to checksum - but no output. Bug in the checksum code I guess. I'll have to figure it out later.
8. I pressed a key to continue, and it started restoring OptFS.
9. Process continued with around 4mb/sec overall, occasionally dropping down to 2 and 1.
10. Um... Some time during this whole process, it started saying "0mb copied, 0% complete" and hanging there. I had to reboot it by removing the battery.
11. With the screen closed, I rebooted it. I got the nokia logo, it hung there for a minute or two, then shut off. Same with the keyboard open.
12. I opened my flasher directory and ran "sudo ./flasher-3.5 -r ../Backups/other20100729-backup-rootfs.img -f" from the console.
It started to flash, then I got "usb_bulk_write: resource temporarily unavailable. - Looks like I'm gonna need to flash PR1.2 first.
13. I flashed PR1.2, then with the USB still plugged in, ran the above command. This time, it flashed entirely. I did get:
But this may still be OK - I'm pretty sure I have at least one bad block on my RootFS.
14. I opened my keyboard, unplugged the USB cable
15. The device rebooted into BackupMenu 0.31!
16. I restored optFS -only- this time, and it finished restoring - It didn't take long enough though, I don't think.
17. I got a checksum of the Backup file, but not of the OptFS itself, so I can't see if they really match or not.
18. Rebooted with the keyboard closed, got nokia screen > blank > reboot loop.
19 Trying to flash the OptFS again. Again, it only got to like 500mb before saying done. why? Only thing I can think of are bad blocks in the OptFS, and DD erroring out.
20. Connected to N900 vis the "read-only usb mass storage device" mode of BackupMenu. All partitions on the eMMC showed up to fdisk -l, and I ran cksum on both my backup file and the optFS partition:
612834623 2147483648 other20100729-backup-optfs.img
2389094843 2147483648 /dev/sdd2
On the one hand, this shows that the checksums are different. On the other, it shows that the -sizes- are the same, so it should have worked.

21. Now I'm going to try the previous steps with my own backup, see if its the method, or if it was a damaged file I got.
22. Flashing PR1.2, then my own rootfs.img. Both completed, and I got:
when flashing my own image(this is what makes me think I have a bad block).
23. Opened keyboard, loaded BackupMenu(ver 0.33 this time).
24. restoring Optfs. I am getting 4mb/sec average. It went over 2024mb, and I think it finished successfully. Cksum of OptFS... blank. I think there's a glitch.
25. Checksum of Backup... Nothing. Yup, some sort of glitch.
26. Rebooted. I got the 5 loading dots, then it shut off. Rebooted, got the 5 loading dots... then it booted fully! I'm guessing it shut off before after FSCKing the optfs, but I dunno.
27. Everything seems to be back where it was before - even the book position in FBreader. This is good.

This means that:
1. Potentially, current backups may be more or less tied to the N900 they were made on - due to bad block locations and such.
2. The foolproof method I talked about in the first post -seems- to work.
3. I have bugs in the checksum code, and I think that I'm gonna change the method of backup/restoring the OptFS to solve this problem.
I think instead of unmounting the OptFS and copying it byte-for-byte, I think I'll mount it and copy all the files instead using tar.
For restoring it, then, I will format the partition(it is EXT3 after all, no big deal), then restore the files.
Unless you have every byte filled in your 2GB partition, this should mean that badblocks will be rerouted by the eMMC and or the EXT3 FS.
This will mean however that backups made in the next version won't be compatible with older versions(Edit: without mounting the image, copying the files out, adding them to a .tar file, and importing them. It would work, but would require a Linux, and or possibly an OSX box. I doubt you could do it on Windows, at least without Cygwin).

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Can't restore the rootfs image, neither with the tool nor flasher-3.5
Flashed PR1.2, then the rootfs from the backup, nothing.

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It's strange... i've flashed my rootfs image more than 10 times and everything worked pretty well.... =S

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I can`t mount whis this commands: