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yukop4 2010-10-07 11:04

Re: [Announce] Telescope: Graphical task switcher with thumbnails
 
POC i dare say

Mitrandir 2010-10-07 11:59

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Onyros, i was able to reproduce the bug on recently reflashed n810. Thanks, i will try to fix this.

yukop4, what does it mean? :)

Onyros 2010-10-07 13:17

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We can only hope he meant Piece Of Cake ;)

Thanks, Mitrandir! Keep up the great job! Telescope + Diablo theme are simply a killer combination for the N8xx.

Kroll 2010-10-07 13:39

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Telescope and Telescope Launcher applets works fine for me.

Mitrandir 2010-10-07 14:16

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This issue seems to be caused by incorrect syncronization of X11 and D-Bus handlers... And like any other syncronization problem it appears only sometimes and sometimes hides.
I need to build more consistent event subsystem for telescope...

Mitrandir 2010-10-08 10:28

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Telescope 2.0~rc6 (extras-devel)
  • Fixed interaction with statusbar applet. Onyros, please check this.

fpp 2010-10-08 12:38

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Actually I had that happen to me a while ago. As it was the first time I thought it was a problem with my N810 and didn't report it -- just uninstalled the taskbar applet and forgot about it :-)

Will try again with the new version...

Onyros 2010-10-09 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitrandir (Post 836212)
Telescope 2.0~rc6 (extras-devel)
  • Fixed interaction with statusbar applet. Onyros, please check this.

Working for me! Thank you very much :D

Mitrandir 2010-10-09 21:56

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Great!

Who came up with this stupid 10-chars limit!?

Onyros 2010-10-09 22:08

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Hahaha, I think it's meant to avoid all the "+1", "+2" answers.

Mitrandir, you should really develop something like this meant for the desktop. I'd love to have something as fast to switch between open windows on the desktop.

I've tried Skippy and everything, as I'm using very minimalist WMs (DWM and sometimes Fluxbox on Arch Linux) but Telescope is just so fast and working perfectly that I'd love to use something like it, with no bloat whatsoever and all the functionality.

Kroll 2010-10-09 22:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyros (Post 837385)
Hahaha, I think it's meant to avoid all the "+1", "+2" answers.

Mitrandir, you should really develop something like this meant for the desktop. I'd love to have something as fast to switch between open windows on the desktop.

I've tried Skippy and everything, as I'm using very minimalist WMs (DWM and sometimes Fluxbox on Arch Linux) but Telescope is just so fast and working perfectly that I'd love to use something like it, with no bloat whatsoever and all the functionality.

There is a desktop version of Telescope (at least for Ubuntu)...

Onyros 2010-10-09 23:00

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Can you point me to it, Kroll? I don't seem to find it anywhere. If it's working with Ubuntu it won't be a problem with Arch, I suppose.

Kroll 2010-10-09 23:28

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I can't, but Mitrandir can. I know one guy who uses Telescope on Smartq with Ubuntu.

Mitrandir 2010-10-10 04:27

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Yes, Telescope can be easily ported to desktop, and one guy have successfully integrated it into mobile ubuntu running on SmartQ tablet.

But, why you don't like compiz or skippy? They are much more tested on desktop :)

Onyros 2010-10-10 04:58

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Well, Compiz is overkill for what I want and Skippy is slow, unmaintained for a long time, old!

I bet you you'd have lots of adopters if it is ever introduced at Arch.

Mitrandir 2010-10-10 13:21

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Okay, i will try to check how it will work on desktop

What is the packaging system on Arch linux?

Onyros 2010-10-10 18:51

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Arch uses its own packaging system, its a ports-like system which builds packages from source. So whatever you can build from source and satisfy dependencies (which will be easy since Arch is a rolling-release, bleeding-edge distro) you can most certainly build in Arch.

It also has its own package manager (pacman), which does the binary package management.

Mitrandir 2010-10-10 19:04

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Ok, thanks. Anyway, integrating to Arch is certainly a long-term task :)

I will try to find time to test Telescope on desktop linux. Actually, i have already tried to run it under KDE and it was working well, except the F5 hotkey to show telescope is not suitable for desktop.

Kroll 2010-10-10 21:44

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Usually I use one of the extra buttons on the mouse (for example forward) or corner of the screen to show open windows in Compiz thumbnails task switcher.

elliott 2010-10-10 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitrandir (Post 837862)
Ok, thanks. Anyway, integrating to Arch is certainly a long-term task :)

If you can get it to build on Ubuntu or whatever and provide build instructions and a source tarball, I can make an Arch package, or at least a PKGBUILD so other Arch users could build the package easily.

Mgamerz 2010-10-24 15:01

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This ever going to come out of extras-devel?

Mitrandir 2010-10-24 16:21

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There are still a few issues in 2.0 branch that i must fix before releasing in to Extras...

Mgamerz 2010-10-26 00:45

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I see. Would love an update, telescope feels dead...
And waiting for a better menu still.

cstryon 2010-10-26 00:50

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Maybe my Diablo5ers and Telescope user comrads can help me on this. I only noticed this after starting to use Diablo 5 and Telescope, when I boot up my n810, the startup sound once it shows the desktop is "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as Linux!". But for the life of me I can't find the audio file. Is this something with telescope or Diablo5? Or have I just been missing this sound byte till recently?

tso 2010-10-26 00:58

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Did you install any kind of dual booting setup? I think its related to that. The file is a classical audio system test btw, used by various distro during late 90s, early 00s to check if the correct driver had been selected.

cstryon 2010-10-26 01:23

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Oh that makes sense. Yes I do have it booting from mmc1 with clone on the flash. Is there a way I can tell that to stop. I appreciate the proper pronunciation, but I think I've had enough >.<.

tso 2010-10-26 02:10

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i suspect this may be of help:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23558

Mitrandir 2010-10-26 03:43

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Haha, i think you have installed some sound package. I don't think this can have something to do with dualboot, because with dualboot the OSes cannot affect each other

Mgamerz, i will try to find time for telescope... You know, Telescope is anyway the hobby project. It would be great if somebody with coding skills could help to speed it up

Mgamerz 2010-10-26 15:51

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I have no coding skills yet, gonna be taking objective c in spring.
And that remove linux from boot thread is from me, its made from console tools. You just need an emput file in something under /usr... don't remember what.

cstryon 2010-10-27 03:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 851135)
i suspect this may be of help:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23558

Yep, this thread did help. Was able to disable and remove wave, less annoyance, and more space :)

Addison 2010-12-30 12:54

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One request?

I usually only have 2 or 3 windows open at one time.

If it's that low, could Telescope use this command instead of displaying the windows on the screen?

matchbox-remote -next


Please? :)

Mitrandir 2010-12-30 12:57

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You mean run this command on F5 press instead of showing UI?

Addison 2010-12-30 13:01

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Absolutely!

I think you'll love this idea! :D

Mitrandir 2010-12-30 13:04

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Doesn't it means that you don't need telescope completely? :)
If F5 will call matchbox-remote, then there is no way for you to show telescope's UI, right?

Addison 2010-12-30 13:10

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Yep!

Exactly!

It still would make an awesome feature for those who are using their tablet lightly while having only like 2 or 3 windows currently running at the time. :)

Addison 2010-12-30 13:13

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Honestly, there's really not much of a reason to see Telescope's UI with that few of windows running.

Just my opinion though.

auouymous 2010-12-30 19:41

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It would be really cool to cycle through windows using F5 but then there is no way to open the launcher.

Kroll 2011-02-24 17:58

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Here I made a picture of Telescope I wanna see on my tablet :P

P.S. Icons from Diablo 5 theme for Diablo, release soon!

http://s2.itrash.ru/idb/2b4ca91abf37...oDiablo5_1.png

auouymous 2011-02-25 01:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 954721)
Here I made a picture of Telescope I wanna see on my tablet

Would be nice to have that icon bar to select categories and replace the category name at top and the dots at bottom. If the category spilled over into a second page it could display the current page number and max page number on the selected icon and tapping that icon would cycle through the pages for that category.

Only problem would be assigning icons to categories and only showing icons for the installed categories. I assume there would be a default icon that is bound to any category it doesn't know about. But if I rename the internet category I should be able to manually bind the globe icon to it.

There is also the problem of too many categories. I only have six but what about those that have more than eight? Do the icons get smaller (not good for finger tapping) or do left and right arrows appear on the ends or does a single icon appear on one end that cycles through icon bars?

Addison 2011-02-25 01:22

Re: [Announce] Telescope: Graphical task switcher with thumbnails
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 954721)
Here I made a picture of Telescope I wanna see on my tablet :P

P.S. Icons from Diablo 5 theme for Diablo, release soon!

I loves it! http://http.cdnlayer.com/cf/images/s...nion/love2.gif


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