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kojacker 2010-07-23 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 762270)
Well, everybody can ease up and go home... It's a bit... underwhelming. IMHO the Web Runtime, QtMobility and FCamera are orders of magnitude bigger news than this, but then, maybe it's just me.


So, one week from today, look out for Old School!


http://blog.ovi.com/2010/07/23/ovis-...es-old-school/

We already got Old School, it's rmerren's entry to the coding comp! Get your own name Nokia!

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1275538001
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54994

gerbick 2010-07-23 18:05

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Maybe that angry man is rmerren?

Rauha 2010-07-23 22:28

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 762279)
A comic? Shocking, really shocking, verging on embarrassing - it just beggars belief.

Nokia marketing is run by people who took the web 2.0 fluff way too seriously. The amount of mysterious and totally useless web campaigns during last 4 or so years is mind bogling. Add non-fat latte drinking artsy fartsy british creative people+ Flash heavy webpage + Youtube video watched by 200 people, and you get the average Nokia-"leading in marketing 2.0"-campaign. Better yet, let's add Bruce Lee video clips or cyborg penguins in the mix, just in case the mass market might get our message.

I don't think that OPK should be fired because of Nokia's software or OS platform strategy, both of which I happen to like. But he slaughtered Nokia's brilliant traditional marketing and design strategy, which made it global market leader, and gave it to these people. And he paid them ridicilous amounts of money to to pump up tasteless as water industrial designs and utterly useless web-campaigns.

Helmuth 2010-07-23 22:40

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Are those people behind this Idea the good old web site printers or are they the sort of people which gave a hand written email to their secretary to send it "to the internet"? :confused:

gerbick 2010-07-24 03:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 762270)
Starting next Friday (July 30), we’re premiering an original comic series here on the Ovi Blog called “Old School”. We won’t tell you too much more about it, but it’s fun and we hope you love it.

It's a mother-lovin' comic book?

My god. Does Nokia's marketing department have a clue or are they just throwing darts at random ****?

ysss 2010-07-24 04:06

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Well I just want to know which t-shirt design inspired this boner.

gerbick 2010-07-24 04:38

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 762867)

Probably something like this...

ysss 2010-07-24 04:52

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Oh they're going down so hard if they try to make a web copy of The Office...

....at the very least, copy the UK version....

ddiscodave 2010-07-24 05:48

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maybe he just found out his son was ghey

HtheB 2010-07-24 09:31

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After a long "fight" they give up and tell us what the deal was about.....

If you saw the blog, almost all the users that replied on the topic was from maemo.org. The OVI Bloggers realized that we really want some ACTION for the N900 too (OVI Store updates?, Firmware upgrades etc...)

Pino Benotti, blogger on OVI, mentioned something in his post:

From the OVI Blog:
Quote:

Pino Bonetti:
July 23, 2010 at 3:20 pm:

Thank you all for your guesses! Some of them are really fun :D

I would also like to thank you for product related feedback: we are feeling your frustration and we are going to forward your comments to the teams.
source

Seems to be the (huge) feedback for the N900 will be forwarded to the team....... I hope ........
And then I hope the team will do SOMETHING USEFUL about the feedback.... I hope......

ossipena 2010-07-24 09:50

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Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 758997)
Not really, there is still a Bug with in my opinion only a dirty workaround:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9500

Haven't seen a fix for this... and I'm sure we won't see. It's based on this one: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9476
And this is a WONTFIX for Nokia. Perhaps we will see this in maemo6 Harmattan / meego 1.0 by default. But not at Maemo 5.

I wan't a proper working autoconnection (W-LAN / GPRS) and don't want to select my connection 20 times a day manually. So, for me we have no working MMS implementation.

And now back to the topic. :)


what about checking your fmms settings? (word of the day: havoc)

did you read both reports through and test my workaround?

ossipena 2010-07-24 10:05

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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 763001)
After a long "fight" they give up and tell us what the deal was about.....

If you saw the blog, almost all the users that replied on the topic was from maemo.org. The OVI Bloggers realized that we really want some ACTION for the N900 too (OVI Store updates?, Firmware upgrades etc...)

Pino Benotti, blogger on OVI, mentioned something in his post:

From the OVI Blog:

source

Seems to be the (huge) feedback for the N900 will be forwarded to the team....... I hope ........
And then I hope the team will do SOMETHING USEFUL about the feedback.... I hope......

"sweet dreams...."

you think that the maemo5 -team isn't working on some things with all the resources they have?

gerbick 2010-07-24 10:06

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I don't think the Maemo 5 team is working on Maemo any longer, personally.

ossipena 2010-07-24 10:07

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 763031)
I don't think the Maemo 5 team is working on Maemo any longer, personally.

sources or ********.

gerbick 2010-07-24 10:09

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 763032)
sources or ********.

Edit: Nevermind. Whatever angry wolverine that's pissed in your cereal for the last entire month or so seems to have made you one bitter dude.

Not even worth it...

jd4200 2010-07-24 10:58

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 763036)
Edit: Nevermind. Whatever angry wolverine that's pissed in your cereal for the last entire month or so seems to have made you one bitter dude.

Not even worth it...

I giggled :o

cjp 2010-07-24 12:24

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http://store.ovi.com/content/42450?clickSource=homepage

I think they released whatever those pics are about early.

Now we can wait for MeeGo in peace.

imperiallight 2010-07-24 12:47

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In this application, you can tease the angry man by clicking on him. Clicking on different places makes angry man look and sound different.
Classy program.

kaos_king 2010-07-26 13:02

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First of all, rofl @ gerbick!


Secondly,
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 763155)
http://store.ovi.com/content/42450?clickSource=homepage

I think they released whatever those pics are about early.

Now we can wait for MeeGo in peace.

This really cant be it.....If it is, no doubt the guy is mad

ossipena 2010-07-26 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 763036)
Edit: Nevermind. Whatever angry wolverine that's pissed in your cereal for the last entire month or so seems to have made you one bitter dude.

Not even worth it...

it was sources or bs. whats wrong with that?

kaos_king 2010-07-26 16:25

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 765179)
it was sources or bs. whats wrong with that?

It sounded like an opinion to me, and thus sources are not needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 763031)
I don't think the Maemo 5 team is working on Maemo any longer, personally.


gerbick 2010-07-26 18:16

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 765179)
it was sources or bs. whats wrong with that?

'Twas opinion lad. I list my source as myself.

If you have sources that state otherwise, I'm prepared to be proven wrong.

ossipena 2010-07-27 10:09

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 765521)
'Twas opinion lad. I list my source as myself.

If you have sources that state otherwise, I'm prepared to be proven wrong.

what use does an opinion have if it is against information available?

this took me about 30 seconds:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3659
(see target milestone)
ee: and better one in a minute:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10900#c3


e: and keep in mind that we all aren't native english speakers so don't ruin your day if you use not-so-straight-forward language and find yourself in a situation that the point is missed.

kl2010 2010-07-27 18:44

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Originally Posted by te37v (Post 756379)
oh the suspense! :P

ovi is just too crappy to be of any suspense for me.

danramos 2010-07-27 18:52

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Originally Posted by kl2010 (Post 766782)
ovi is just too crappy to be of any suspense for me.

Considering all the ovi mentions and the general experience of using ovi, from what I've read, he's probably angry because he's stuck USING ovi.

gerbick 2010-07-28 05:45

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 766211)
e: and keep in mind that we all aren't native english speakers so don't ruin your day if you use not-so-straight-forward language and find yourself in a situation that the point is missed.

Here's straight-forward English for you, Grumpy Smurf.

5.0+ means absolutely nothing until it arrives. Until then, vaporware.

And if you claim PR1.3, that's only bringing Qt Mobility for the most part; however per usual, Nokia does not really make that information, among so much other stuff, known beforehand.

Now. Here's another straight-forward statement for you. I stated an opinion that you've taken way too seriously for some reason. Let's see what happens and then let's chat. As it stands, I will fall back on my Diablo 4.1+ dreams that never came true.

Let's hope it doesn't happen yet again. And... learn to lighten up.

Bis dann.

ossipena 2010-07-28 06:56

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 767350)
Here's straight-forward English for you, Grumpy Smurf.

5.0+ means absolutely nothing until it arrives. Until then, vaporware.

And if you claim PR1.3, that's only bringing Qt Mobility for the most part; however per usual, Nokia does not really make that information, among so much other stuff, known beforehand.

Now. Here's another straight-forward statement for you. I stated an opinion that you've taken way too seriously for some reason. Let's see what happens and then let's chat. As it stands, I will fall back on my Diablo 4.1+ dreams that never came true.

Let's hope it doesn't happen yet again. And... learn to lighten up.

Bis dann.

weren't we talking about if M5 team was working or not a while ago?

at least in week 22 has been one build, and the build that has this bug fixed, has been done probably after week 22....
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10900#c3

gerbick 2010-07-28 06:58

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Thank you for proving my opinion wrong. Thank you kindly sir. You have fully proven your point and I have failed at stating my opinion.

Glad to see that they've built a new build of the OS. I assume it will be out very soon, right?

ossipena 2010-07-28 07:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 767424)
I assume it will be out very soon, right?

just read the link, it should give you an answer.

personal opinion: it probably will be out some day.

gerbick 2010-07-28 07:03

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I saw no definite dates; yet you wish for me to follow your opinion and discard my own opinion.

I can't be the only person that see the ****ing irony in that.

danramos 2010-07-28 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 767350)
Here's straight-forward English for you, Grumpy Smurf.

Were you talking to me? ;)

ossipena 2010-07-28 09:38

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 767430)
I saw no definite dates; yet you wish for me to follow your opinion and discard my own opinion.

I can't be the only person that see the ****ing irony in that.

well, my opinions are backed up by Andres comment in the bugtracker, but of course you can always choose whatever you want to believe.

Larswad 2010-07-28 13:17

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Originally Posted by Keir (Post 756473)
surely it can't be over that. It looks like such a crap thing.

Yeah, and that angry man scetched picture looks like someone that wants to take a dump.

But I think he's so angry because:

The N900 bluetooth hardly works at all with most car handsfree kits.

The N900 has no flash 10.1 and Nokia doesn't announce any news about it.

The N900 has like 10 crappy and buggy games in the ovi store, he has waited for like 5 months for the 3d rollercoaster rush and the iPhone users are already bored with it.

The N900 USB OTG support was dropped by Nokia.

Most N900 applications suffer from audio skipping when the screen starts dimming.

HtheB 2010-07-28 13:42

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Do you think that they will announce some things for the N900 in the Nokia Event which is very soon?

Larswad 2010-07-28 13:48

Re: Angry man...... This time, he's really angry...
 
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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 767772)
Do you think that they will announce some things for the N900 in the Nokia Event which is very soon?


They will focus on the N8, you can count on that.

optimistprime 2010-07-28 14:16

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maybe he is mad because he is the the guy who messed up the spelling on this nokia china sign.



http://www.geekologie.com/2010/07/27/nokia-fail.jpg

John McClane 2010-07-28 14:33

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Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 767812)
maybe he is mad because he is the the guy who messed up the spelling on this nokia china sign.
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/07/27/nokia-fail.jpg

What :eek:
PS. It should have the Nokia Hands with the poopie between them :D lol

optimistprime 2010-07-28 18:27

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yes i find it really funny that they're "connocting poopie". Thats pretty bad when you cant even get a basic sign right.

gerbick 2010-07-28 18:47

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 767545)
well, my opinions are backed up by Andres comment in the bugtracker, but of course you can always choose whatever you want to believe.

You do know that further builds of Diablo existed that never came out, right? I'm sure more knowledgeable folks will answer that for you.

Some fixed portions of the still existing problems in that platform. There were fixes that were done on Nokia's side that never came out. That's why the Community SSU exists - the fixes never came out but they existed.

And re-read Andre's answer. He has a disclaimer about how Nokia has no guarantee of when/if those fixes will come out.

So again, I'm falling back on prior experience and the fact that they have yet to come out yet. Thus, vaporware.

Believe whomever you wish that justifies your position. I truly hope they do come out. But at the same time, I have no expectation that they will. Been there, done that before.

Either way, I don't wish anybody harm. Those fixes need to come out or need to be made available.

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 11:10

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Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 757181)
Yes, there was a reply to the comment of wampyre. The arguments were reversed. The one for the LED flash was far-fetched. At the rest of them I was able to agree.

EDIT: Oh, the two of mine are also removed. But they were already approved and there about 6 hours ago.

Is this already the next (small) Nokia misstep?

Hi, Helmuth (+ everyone else in this thread!)

My name is Niini and I work with the Ovi Blog. Sorry for my belated reply, but I wanted to clear out the issue of missing comments discussed in this thread. Between Sunday July 18th and Monday July 19th we experienced some issues with the server that hosts the Ovi Blog. The Blog was actually down for a short period of time, and during Sunday and Monday some of our already approved comments to this post in question (and to some of our other posts as well) were pushed back to the 'Pending' queue. We noticed this late Monday evening and by Tuesday morning (Finnish time :)) we had approved *all* the incoming comments.

I want to make this very clear: we here at the Ovi Blog do not delete comments based on their content; we welcome all and every opinion and want to encourage, not stifle discussion. So my deepest apologies for the Ovi Blog #serverfailpanic last week =) I will also repeat what my colleague Pino said in the comments section of the post: we're absolutely listening to your feedback and have forwarded all of the N900 comments to the responsible team.

Also, the "Old School" comic is simply something nice we wanted to do to our fans who follow the Blog and keep showing us their support :) So if any of you are still interested, tune in this Friday to see what we have come up with!

-Niini


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