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gerbick 2010-07-29 11:22

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Odd that some still have yet to reappear.

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 11:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 769053)
Odd that some still have yet to reappear.

Hi, Gerbick!

Do you still not see your own comment in the post? Did you also submit yours either during 18.7 or 19.7?

-Niini

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 11:34

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Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769060)
Hi, Gerbick!

Do you still not see your own comment in the post? Did you also submit yours either during 18.7 or 19.7?

-Niini

OK hold on, I'm checking also our spam queue. We're using this rather strict WP spam plugin that might (although very rarely, but it happens) mistakenly label something as spam :)

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 769053)
Odd that some still have yet to reappear.

What about now?

Ginge52 2010-07-29 12:38

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Don't know if this has been mentioned but its a new comic strip that Ovi is starting tomorrow on the 30th. http://blog.ovi.com/2010/07/29/tomor...inet-and-lose/

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 12:48

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Originally Posted by Ginge52 (Post 769141)
Don't know if this has been mentioned but its a new comic strip that Ovi is starting tomorrow on the 30th. http://blog.ovi.com/2010/07/29/tomor...inet-and-lose/

Man, you're fast! I posted that like 2 minutes ago! :D

Ginge52 2010-07-29 12:49

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Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769155)
Man, you're fast! I posted that like 2 minutes ago! :D

Saw it on Twitter and thought i'd spread the wealth.

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 12:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginge52 (Post 769158)
Saw it on Twitter and thought i'd spread the wealth.

Awesome, thanks!! You planning to check out the actual comic tomorrow? ;-)

Ginge52 2010-07-29 12:55

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Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769164)
Awesome, thanks!! You planning to check out the actual comic tomorrow? ;-)

If it pops up in my Twitter feed then I might have a little look.:)

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginge52 (Post 769165)
If it pops up in my Twitter feed then I might have a little look.:)

You've got yourself a deal!! ;)

Ginge52 2010-07-29 13:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769168)
You've got yourself a deal!! ;)

How about sending over one of those Ovi skateboards or Waterbottles?? ;)

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginge52 (Post 769170)
How about sending over one of those Ovi skateboards or Waterbottles?? ;)

LOL, we've totally hijacked this thread, by the way... ;) Yeah, our floor is pretty much littered with all kinds of cool Ovi stuff (such as the skateboards, water bottles, T-shirts, even friggin' snowboards!!...) so I'll definitely give out some more through the Ovi Blog very soon! So you'll have to tune in... ;)

gerbick 2010-07-29 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769090)
What about now?

I didn't post a comment. I was talking about the photo evidence of the ones that disappeared.

I kept a copy, just in case (not my screenshot) of the screenshot.

I'm not saying it's intentional and I appreciate you taking time out to explain the disappearance - glad it's not something as malicious as Apple actually deleting folks posting links and comments about the Consumer Reports inability to recommend the iPhone 4.

If they've all been put back, I just didn't see it earlier. I'll check in a bit.

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769175)
LOL, we've totally hijacked this thread, by the way... ;) Yeah, our floor is pretty much littered with all kinds of cool Ovi stuff (such as the skateboards, water bottles, T-shirts, even friggin' snowboards!!...) so I'll definitely give out some more through the Ovi Blog very soon! So you'll have to tune in... ;)

Sorry y'all, didn't mean to make that into a marketing pitch... :o I'll shut up now.

Helmuth 2010-07-29 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769035)
I want to make this very clear: we here at the Ovi Blog do not delete comments based on their content; we welcome all and every opinion and want to encourage, not stifle discussion. So my deepest apologies for the Ovi Blog #serverfailpanic last week =) I will also repeat what my colleague Pino said in the comments section of the post: we're absolutely listening to your feedback and have forwarded all of the N900 comments to the responsible team.

I like the fact that all comments are appeared again. And mistakes happens... Your servers are surely as perfect as mine. :p

Sadly, this old blog entry has no longer the attention that it has in the first days after it appears. I don't like the feeling that now it is not so important that the disliked comments are not shown. But feelings are only feelings and not facts.

Thanks for posting and inform the maemo community.

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 769179)
I didn't post a comment. I was talking about the photo evidence of the ones that disappeared.

I kept a copy, just in case (not my screenshot) of the screenshot.

I'm not saying it's intentional and I appreciate you taking time out to explain the disappearance - glad it's not something as malicious as Apple actually deleting folks posting links and comments about the Consumer Reports inability to recommend the iPhone 4.

If they've all been put back, I just didn't see it earlier. I'll check in a bit.

OK. Yeah, it was actually this thread that helped me uncover some of the lost comments from cyperspace so it's really good that you guys here keep an eye on these things, we really do appreciate it. And no, the disappearance was definitely NOT intentional. I do understand that it may have seemed that way at the time, but no one (?) here probably noticed that most of our posts from the same week also "lost" some of their newest comments at the same go... :) Fortunately the comments are now working smoothly and all that was once in 'Pending' mode has now been approved!

-Niini

Ovi_Blog 2010-07-29 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 769182)
I like the fact that all comments are appeared again. And mistakes happens... Your servers are surely as perfect as mine. :p

Sadly, this old blog entry has no longer the attention that it has in the first days after it appears. I don't like the feeling that now it is not so important that the disliked comments are not shown. But feelings are only feelings and not facts.

Thanks for posting and inform the maemo community.

Thanks for your feedback, Helmuth! You're right, we definitely should have commented here sooner, our bad on that one :( In the future we'll definitely react much quicker to these things!

Helmuth 2010-07-29 14:36

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Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769215)
Thanks for your feedback, Helmuth! You're right, we definitely should have commented here sooner, our bad on that one :( In the future we'll definitely react much quicker to these things!

Thanks! :)

In my opinion the community would like to see for excuse a OVI Blog entry that sumarizes why N900 owners are so extremely unhappy at the moment although they own the best mobile internet tables you can currently get for money.

Something like this at example: http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...teps-for-2010/
(but additionally with some plans how to solve it without forcing their customers to spend again 600€ to get the bugs and missteps, indebted by NOKIA, fixed)

Milhouse 2010-07-29 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 769277)
In my opinion the community would like to see for excuse a OVI Blog entry that sumarizes why N900 owners are so extremely unhappy at the moment although they own the best mobile internet tables you can currently get for money.

Something like this at example: http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...teps-for-2010/
(but additionally with some plans how to solve it without forcing their customers to spend again 600€ to get the bugs and missteps, indebted by NOKIA, fixed)

Also, 75% of N900 users that visit this forum are dissatisfied with with Ovi Store (according to the poll, 93% do not believe Ovi Store even ranks as "good"). The aforementioned thread has plenty of suggestions as to how Ovi Store can be improved.

giecsar 2010-07-29 15:11

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Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 769286)
Also, 75% of N900 users that visit this forum are dissatisfied with with Ovi Store (according to the poll, 93% do not believe Ovi Store even ranks as "good"). The aforementioned thread has plenty of suggestions as to how Ovi Store can be improved.

I can't believe that someone out there IS satisfied. There's only a dozen or so apps, most of them are trash, while the really good ones took an eternity to receive approva,

sepehrsfmech 2010-07-29 15:18

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angryman is angry because noone is answring his post
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...302#post769302

demos 2010-07-29 15:40

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Angry as I left both a note to the users forum and sent email and there isn't even a recognition response about the unbearable situation where you cannot buy from OVI with a card having an other address than the country you live in.

giecsar 2010-07-29 15:42

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Originally Posted by demos (Post 769341)
Angry as I left both a note to the users forum and sent email and there isn't even a recognition response about the unbearable situation where you cannot buy from OVI with a card having an other address than the country you live in.

Really? Damn...looks like there are fare more issues than I thought.

danramos 2010-07-30 18:22

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Originally Posted by sepehrsfmech (Post 769317)
angryman is angry because noone is answring his post
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...302#post769302

Don't f*** with Angryman

http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpre...4482938107.jpg

bchliu 2010-07-30 22:57

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Sorry.. maybe but I am missing the point.. But it is rather insulting to N900 users that this stupid comic is out given we have been left in the cold without a decent version of OVI maps that does navigation.

Comic is not even funny.. Once again, OVI hyped up something that is useless, and we aint getting any traction on any support from Nokia.

I've been using Nokia for a long time and never in my life have I wanted to walk away from Nokia.. But it is become more so by the day unfortunately..

imperiallight 2010-07-30 23:00

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Originally Posted by Ovi_Blog (Post 769035)
Hi, Helmuth (+ everyone else in this thread!)

My name is Niini and I work with the Ovi Blog. Sorry for my belated reply, but I wanted to clear out the issue of missing comments discussed in this thread. Between Sunday July 18th and Monday July 19th we experienced some issues with the server that hosts the Ovi Blog. The Blog was actually down for a short period of time, and during Sunday and Monday some of our already approved comments to this post in question (and to some of our other posts as well) were pushed back to the 'Pending' queue. We noticed this late Monday evening and by Tuesday morning (Finnish time :)) we had approved *all* the incoming comments.

I want to make this very clear: we here at the Ovi Blog do not delete comments based on their content; we welcome all and every opinion and want to encourage, not stifle discussion. So my deepest apologies for the Ovi Blog #serverfailpanic last week =) I will also repeat what my colleague Pino said in the comments section of the post: we're absolutely listening to your feedback and have forwarded all of the N900 comments to the responsible team.

Also, the "Old School" comic is simply something nice we wanted to do to our fans who follow the Blog and keep showing us their support :) So if any of you are still interested, tune in this Friday to see what we have come up with!

-Niini

Were you really hosting a promotional piece on AngryMan?!

danramos 2010-07-30 23:11

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Don't make him angry. You wouldn't want him using Ovi when he's angry.

HellFlyer 2010-07-30 23:22

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http://blog.ovi.com/wp-content/uploa...P3-MAPS-v3.jpg


LMAO so this is a pure representation of what N900 users do when they open Ovi Maps :D

danramos 2010-07-30 23:26

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Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 770886)
LMAO so this is a pure representation of N900 users :D

Here, I corrected that extraneously wordy sentence for you. ;)

gerbick 2010-07-30 23:30

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The comic needs more Mel Gibson.

PradaBrada 2010-07-30 23:31

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Rejected Ovi advertisements shoehorned into a fail webcomic... THIS is what they were hyping for weeks???

This is worse than Angryman

danramos 2010-07-30 23:32

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Also... why does it say,"Using Maps - only on Ovi by Nokia?" Isn't there a Maps on Google? You know..a Google Maps and Google Navigation to go with it for the turn-by-turn directions? I always hate the way promotional material feels the need to sound exclusive about something that isn't.

PradaBrada 2010-07-30 23:40

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I really don't understand, why hype this ****?
Is the Ovi Team really that full of bad taste and illogic?

This must be some sort of sick joke on N900 users

danramos 2010-07-30 23:47

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Ahem. http://www.namedevelopment.com/blog/...okia_laid.html

That last bit hit me as particularly appropriate, given the Angry Man:
"On top of that, in Ohio, OVI stands for 'Operating a vehicle while impaired.'"

Milhouse 2010-07-31 01:14

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The "Comic" idea might work if the end users had any sort of affection for Ovi, as they would then be more willing to see the "funny" side to this "bit of fun". However as Ovi is pretty much reviled (certainly by N900 users - 75% at last count) this unfunny venture is instead considered somewhat distasteful, even patronising, certainly puerile.

Unfortunately the mere existence of this "Comic" idea leads me to believe that the people behind Ovi have absolutely no idea how badly they are perceived by end users, which is *extremely* worrying. Instead of trying to engage with end users and address the very severe issues at the root of Nokias abject failure to compete in services at the high end, they waste their time pumping out this kind of cr@p.

Head. In. Sand.

kureyon 2010-07-31 04:17

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 770902)
Also... why does it say,"Using Maps - only on Ovi by Nokia?" Isn't there a Maps on Google? You know..a Google Maps ...

Because "Maps" is the name of the program (or maybe was, as it might be called "Ovi Maps" these days), Google's similar offering is called "Google Maps" :rolleyes:

ysss 2010-07-31 04:35

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I hope Ms.Niini and the team are not put off by the more emotional comments in this thread and instead continues to make use of it (and this forum) as a valuable channel for feedback and open communication.

I, for one, appreciates that a Nokia representative takes the time to plop his/her head in here to say hello to us :)

danramos 2010-07-31 04:42

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Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 771012)
Because "Maps" is the name of the program (or maybe was, as it might be called "Ovi Maps" these days), Google's similar offering is called "Google Maps" :rolleyes:

Heh... but that's not how it reads on there. Maps? Unique to Ovi? :rolleyes:

bchliu 2010-07-31 11:45

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 771016)
I hope Ms.Niini and the team are not put off by the more emotional comments in this thread and instead continues to make use of it (and this forum) as a valuable channel for feedback and open communication.

I, for one, appreciates that a Nokia representative takes the time to plop his/her head in here to say hello to us :)

Actually feeling as insulted by the OVI team with this Bull***** in the same way that iPhone 4 users can be insulted by Steve Jobs telling people how to hold a phone. The level of ignorance is the same in all this and realistically, if you want to hype something up, then make sure its something damn good. Not a lame P.O.S cartoon, thats not funny and rubs salt on N900 users. Absolutely distasteful in every sense of the word.

I wonder where Ms Niini is now? Is there any "Official" word from Nokia/OVI on some levels of support for N900? Or the fact that they blotched up the OVI store, stopped decent software from being released (on time - such as Angry Birds Level Packs, Docs to Go, 3D Rollercoaster) and releasing some dumb***** "Angryman" application thats not worth the electricity used to run it.

Personally, I would like to see an apology directly from OVI just on this matter. Yes, I am going a bit overboard and like the Angry Man in the picture - but I am sure as shite not happy with the way that us customers are being treated!

PradaBrada 2010-07-31 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 771012)
Because "Maps" is the name of the program (or maybe was, as it might be called "Ovi Maps" these days), Google's similar offering is called "Google Maps" :rolleyes:

On Android, the Google Maps app is also called just 'Maps'

And the same thing goes for every official Google XYZ app just being called 'XYZ' (Earth, Goggles etc)


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