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CPRman 2010-07-19 23:08

Telephony Is Sucking
 
In the last few days I've been having lots of lag issues relateds to phopne calls. I get about half a ring before my calls get to Voicemail. Same thing trying to make a call I get a 5-20 second lag while the call connects. ANy ideas?

GreatGonzo 2010-07-19 23:26

Re: Telephony Is Sucking
 
a) Did you install any applications just before that
b) have you rebooted the phone
c) have you checked if other processes max out you cpu
d) Has your ear been sucked into the phone yet
e) apologies -but the title was asking for a smart arse response

atilla 2010-07-19 23:34

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i think its the big and well knowed incoming call glitch.
here is the thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54556
.basicly its a bug in pr 1.2 and surprise surprise you cant do something against that.the only way is too disable the auto rotate by incoming call you can do this in you telephone app at the top,you have to choose always landscape then you havent probs.

Hotshot 2010-07-19 23:39

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Is your phone carrier tmobile? I have them and they service since last tuesday been very spotty but seems to have worked itself out. If thats your carrier I would say call them and they can reset your sim card that might solve your problem.

CPRman 2010-07-20 01:01

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ATT here, tried landscape fix and that's not it.
I've now noticed that the screen lights up when the call begins to come in, but it's a few second after that that the telephony app opens, and by then you have but a second to catch the call before voicemail.

9000 2010-07-20 01:23

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For detail investigation, would you please run the following command and upload the installed.txt here:

Code:

dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | grep -v ^[lib,osso,hildon]  > /home/user/MyDocs/installed.txt

CPRman 2010-07-20 04:16

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My keyboard doesn't have those characters, can't seem to copy and paste from email or browser, man sometimes this phone makes me feel like a ******.

9000 2010-07-20 04:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 757418)
My keyboard doesn't have those characters, can't seem to copy and paste from email or browser, man sometimes this phone makes me feel like a ******.

Slide your pen from outside of the lower left side of the browser to inside, an arrow would appear. Tap on that arrow to allow the mouse pointer to capture text. Ctrl-c to copy and Ctrl-v to paste.

Besides, if you haven't install mscim, then you must be able to open the virtual keyboard.

Be patient, you're doing something that no other phone could offer, so it's normal.

geohsia 2010-07-20 05:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 757418)
My keyboard doesn't have those characters, can't seem to copy and paste from email or browser, man sometimes this phone makes me feel like a ******.

If you're just using the X Terminal and the physical keyboard click on the blue arrow on the far left middle button and then the Sym/Ctrl button far left top. Sym stands for Symbol and all of the symbols you need will pop up on a virtual keyboard and you can click away.

You'll get used to it soon enough. :-) Everyone starts somewhere.

Venemo 2010-07-20 05:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 757273)
In the last few days I've been having lots of lag issues relateds to phopne calls. I get about half a ring before my calls get to Voicemail. Same thing trying to make a call I get a 5-20 second lag while the call connects. ANy ideas?

Perhaps you're running resource-intensive applications in the background?
Or some widgets that are unstable?
Did you install anything from Extras-devel or Extras-testing?

How often do you reboot your N900?

Fargus 2010-07-20 06:30

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i've read the various comments posted here and the OP's frustration. I am also having similar issues whereas prior to PR1.2 I didn't. I am not running anything out of testing or dev repositories. i have virtually nothing on CPU load if at all when incoming calls exhibt this behaviour so it isn't that the device is busy either. as far as I can tell the phone application is playing up now since PR1.2 big time.

CPRman 2010-07-20 06:41

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1 Attachment(s)
Heh, I got some stuff in there ;)
THanks for the tips, the special character keys worked great.

SallyJane 2010-07-20 07:21

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Yes it's sucking big time !!!!!!

I'm also finding this incredibly annoying.

Changing Phone to Landscape only does not work very well.

Whichever orientation I change to works for a day or two and then the blank screen / freezing issues recur.

I usually do not have anything running in the background and my N900 is exceptionally stable in other respects.

I had posted a [Request] for an enterprising coder to map Phone Answer to a hard key (camera key or other).

Maybe it's just not possible ?

9000 2010-07-20 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 757480)
Heh, I got some stuff in there ;)
THanks for the tips, the special character keys worked great.

Got your file and I suspect recaller has something to do with it. Remove it clean and try again:

Code:

sudo apt-get autoremove recaller --purge
However I also see pluseaudio server. What do you use it for?

CPRman 2010-07-20 20:11

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sudo apt-get autoremove recaller --purge
also did
sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio --purge

Didn't give me any errors on doing that, but also didn't give any type of response. Rebooting now to test.

CPRman 2010-07-20 20:17

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same thing. when the call is made from another phone, my screen lights up but doesn't goto telephony for sevral seconds.

qwerty12 2010-07-20 20:35

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1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyJane (Post 757503)
I had posted a [Request] for an enterprising coder to map Phone Answer to a hard key (camera key or other).

The camera key doesn't work well: Seems that when the display goes off, either rtcom-call-ui is unresponsive or that the camera button is disabled.

Anyway, I attach my quick hack. Untar, "stop shortcutd" (if it's running) and run a.out. Since I don't keep a SIM in the N900, I have no inclination to work on this.

Varanus261 2010-07-20 20:55

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I have also been experiencing these issues but not straight after pr1.2

Also more n900 users have asked me about this since vodafone uk rolled out pr1.2

(i do not have a vfuk n900)

9000 2010-07-20 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 758353)
same thing. when the call is made from another phone, my screen lights up but doesn't goto telephony for sevral seconds.

Sorry I've to get the flight now. I'll re-investigate as soon as I get back.

CPRman 2010-07-20 22:27

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Yea, this has only been in the last week it's been acting lik,e this, not sinse 1.2

Most of the time now I just notification I have a voicemail, I don'[t even get the "missed call". Could it really be getting worse?

SallyJane 2010-07-21 08:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 758381)
The camera key doesn't work well: Seems that when the display goes off, either rtcom-call-ui is unresponsive or that the camera button is disabled.

Anyway, I attach my quick hack. Untar, "stop shortcutd" (if it's running) and run a.out. Since I don't keep a SIM in the N900, I have no inclination to work on this.

qwerty12, thanks for posting this.

Before I install, a couple of questions :

I presume I need to have shortcutd installed for this ?

Which directory do I install it to ?

Once installed, do I run a.out once off only?

Do the changes persist through reboot ?

How do I uninstall, should I need to ?

(Sorry to push for details, but I'm a linux noob. I'd love to learn more - neurosurgery is just keeping me a little busy ATM ;) )

qwerty12 2010-07-21 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyJane (Post 758877)
I presume I need to have shortcutd installed for this ?

No. Unless you turn off "Use the camera key" in Shortcutd's settings, they'll most likely conflict (nothing adverse, just Shortcut'd would also execute its configured action).

Of course, the ideal course of action would be to integrate it into Shortcutd itself as I have no plans to work on this - and that is what I was doing, but I couldn't figure out libdbus and went back to my beloved DBus-GLib. I'm also glad I didn't as being able to use the camera key seems to depend on what position the moon is in...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyJane (Post 758877)
Which directory do I install it to ?

Doesn't matter, as long as it's not /home/user/MyDocs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyJane (Post 758877)
Once installed, do I run a.out once off only?

Do the changes persist through reboot ?

Nope, you'll need to run it after each reboot(and leave the Terminal window open... unless you run it with nohup).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyJane (Post 758877)
How do I uninstall, should I need to ?

(Sorry to push for details, but I'm a linux noob. I'd love to learn more - neurosurgery is just keeping me a little busy ATM ;) )

rm -rf pimp2 ;)

Hey, I use Windows ;P

CPRman 2010-07-22 23:25

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Hmm, still no good solutions? I'm seeing many other threads related to this bug now.

fareed_xtreme 2010-07-24 11:03

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I am fasing the same problem too. I tried flashing my device. Seems to be fine for a few minutes or hours i must say. Then suddenly after a few reboots etc, back to the same old situation where the phone light turns on and after approx five seconds (2 rings on the callers side) the phone starts ringin.

Alex Atkin UK 2010-07-24 15:07

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I assume by 2 rings you mean two cycles (ie ring ring, ring ring) because in my experience its perfectly normal for most phones to not ring for 2 rings (caller side), even landline phones. Its simply lag between call initiated and received.

However the N900 does have real problems in PR1.2 with calls. I almost always now seem to get the phone ringing, the screen lights up as I take the phone out of my pocket, then it turns off again and I am left trying to get it to come out of standby so I can answer the call.

Why there is this obsession with NO buttons on touchscreen phones I do not know. I would much prefer it to be like the N97 or 5800XM where you at least have pickup/hangup buttons so you do not have to rely on the touchscreen.

fareed_xtreme 2010-07-25 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 763296)
I assume by 2 rings you mean two cycles (ie ring ring, ring ring) because in my experience its perfectly normal for most phones to not ring for 2 rings (caller side), even landline phones. Its simply lag between call initiated and received.

However the N900 does have real problems in PR1.2 with calls. I almost always now seem to get the phone ringing, the screen lights up as I take the phone out of my pocket, then it turns off again and I am left trying to get it to come out of standby so I can answer the call.

Why there is this obsession with NO buttons on touchscreen phones I do not know. I would much prefer it to be like the N97 or 5800XM where you at least have pickup/hangup buttons so you do not have to rely on the touchscreen.

Well you are right about the rings as cycles. Well I own an N95 too with this. So I actually can make out the difference. If anyone tries to give u a miss call, and the ring cycle is less than 2 cycles, the phone doesnt register a miss call while my N95 does it. Well I aint trying to be picky or something but i do understand that this firmware has a lot plugins for it to go through before registering the call on the phone. But I guess it is some software or some package causing the problem coz if i reflash the device, the phone will ring before the the second cycle starts.

9000 2010-07-26 02:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CPRman (Post 758499)
Yea, this has only been in the last week it's been acting lik,e this, not sinse 1.2

Most of the time now I just notification I have a voicemail, I don'[t even get the "missed call". Could it really be getting worse?

Hi, recap your case. I found 'per-contact-ringtones' in your installed list. May be you should remove any contact related packages like that for now, as it's reported that it has issues with the delay until next update.

Also, my further recommendation to you is that if your calls are very important then you should really take extra care when installing anything from extras-devel or extras-testing as they'd put your phone into very unstable status. For me I'd test the most critical functions prior to attending to some important business trips as I play heavily on the extras-repo like you.

CPRman 2010-07-27 07:01

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purged 'per-contact-ringtones' testing now.

fareed_xtreme 2010-08-16 20:10

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Guys, I know what I may say may sound extremely silly, as i found it doesnt make sense either. 2 weeks back,I flashed (rootfs and eMMC) my N900 which was a lil annoying at that point cause it had got friggin slow. So after all the things were done, (Restored backup etc) it was still havin the sucked up telephony. Yesterday I installed the update of the Custom per Contact Ringtone (I guess thats the name) and the updated actually screwed everything. when the phone came, there was no ringtone in the general mode at all. So after the uninstallation, it seemed to be ringing faster than before. Rings before the first cycle on the callers side. I have no clue what has happened or why this happened. The custom ringtones does not work on my mobile now even if i reinstall them, but who cares, it fixed something that I needed to get fixed badly.

Also My mobile is overclocked by titans kernel at 850 MHz

egoshin 2010-08-16 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fareed_xtreme (Post 788486)

Also My mobile is overclocked by titans kernel at 850 MHz

Get back from overclocking and see again. Overclocking is good but sometime may not work well.

fareed_xtreme 2010-08-16 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 788518)
Get back from overclocking and see again. Overclocking is good but sometime may not work well.

Even after bringing it back to normal state, It is still better. The custom ringtones application doesnt seem to work anymore even after reinstallin it. I think some packages might have got corrupted causing some activities during call to get bypassed or something (Just a guess. I have no clue about Maemo OS as I am a noob in it.)


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