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geneven 2010-07-22 18:41

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivek5000 (Post 761166)
Once I overclock the phone, say to 800MHz, is it possible to go back to the factory default setting or the original settings without the overclocking ???

And will the performance be the same once I go back to the original way..

Yes, you can easily go back to settings without overclocking. And your performance should be the same unless you've burned up your N900 or something, which hasn't happened to anyone yet.

However, Nokia has said that overclocking voids the warranty, which is a consideration.

vivek5000 2010-07-23 09:17

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Thnx geneven.. Once I overclock using custom kernel, then how to go back to the default settings..

And once I go back to the default settings & take my phone to Nokia, they wouldnt know right that the phone was overclocked?/

Switch_ 2010-07-23 09:28

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Do plenty of research before overclocking. Nokia will know because the EEPROM in the chip will state that for x-period of time it ran with a core frequency of, say, 800Mhz and not the stock 600Mhz. Nokia will know and they have the tools to find out.

In answer to all of your questions, I would have to ask that before you ask too many you gather all the research data that you can. Start in the overclocking thread, and then check the overclocking Wiki. Read, understand, digest and then make the decision which way to go. After that, bear in mind that either custom kernel you download will not allow the recently released fCamera to run properly, and they need to be uninstalled.

If you uninstall incorrectly, your phone will be bricked, requiring re-flashing. Do not go down this road unless you are comformtable with it.

vivek5000 2010-07-23 10:10

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Very true Switch_ . I am currently very happy with the default speed of phone & just got a little tempted reading all the threads on overclocking.. So I stay on with the default settings as I have already paid for an extended warranty too.. Tnx

Pyro1099 2010-07-23 23:37

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
If I overclock using this tutorial "http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=595582&postcount=774"

Will I still be able to use the AM and updater?

geneven 2010-07-23 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivek5000 (Post 761912)
Thnx geneven.. Once I overclock using custom kernel, then how to go back to the default settings..

And once I go back to the default settings & take my phone to Nokia, they wouldnt know right that the phone was overclocked?/

You read the overclocking docs and they give you a simple way to get back to the standard kernel.

You can use the custom kernel without overclocking -- when you install it you aren't overclocking. Until you tell it something like kernel-config limits 500 850 it isn't overclocking. Then if you stop telling it that, it isn't overclocking any more.

But it isn't 100% sure that going back to the standard kernel would make it impossible to tell that the phone has been overclocked. Some people claim that there are ways for Nokia to tell.

I have read that the N900 is ALREADY overclocked, by Nokia, so it would seem to me that they CAN'T tell that WE overclocked it.

My bet is that if you go back to the standard kernel they can't tell.

I think that you are on your honor not to be demanding a lot of support from Nokia if you have problems that might have been caused by overclocking. However, I have seen no such problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro1099 (Post 762745)
If I overclock using this tutorial "http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=595582&postcount=774"

Will I still be able to use the AM and updater?

Jakiman is an authoritative source of information. In other words, I trust him.

Yes, you will be able to use App Mgr and the updater.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch_ (Post 761924)
Do plenty of research before overclocking. Nokia will know because the EEPROM in the chip will state that for x-period of time it ran with a core frequency of, say, 800Mhz and not the stock 600Mhz. Nokia will know and they have the tools to find out.

In answer to all of your questions, I would have to ask that before you ask too many you gather all the research data that you can. Start in the overclocking thread, and then check the overclocking Wiki. Read, understand, digest and then make the decision which way to go. After that, bear in mind that either custom kernel you download will not allow the recently released fCamera to run properly, and they need to be uninstalled.

If you uninstall incorrectly, your phone will be bricked, requiring re-flashing. Do not go down this road unless you are comformtable with it.

This is interesting. Since you say that Nokia can tell, can you estimate how many support requests have been denied by Nokia because the phone has been overclocked? My personal estimate: zero.

I have not seen one single posting claiming that Nokia has rejected a support request due to overclocking, have you? After all, most support requests are about things like a broken usb port, which overclocking doesn't affect.

geneven 2010-07-24 00:21

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Question: if I do as suggested here:

edit/multi-quote instead of multi-posting, please.

When I go back and edit (after I have paused and done other things), how will people who already read my post know that I have edited it?

I think they won't know. So I guess since my messages aren't worth anything, that's ok. :)

Pyro1099 2010-07-24 04:09

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 762757)
You read the overclocking docs........

Thanks :), so nothing is restricted after the overclock, except for voiding warranty?

and last question:

If I use the "Enhanced Linux Kernel for power users" from the System catagory in the app manager is it completely reversible? Can I return the N900 to its stock state without any side effects (exempt CPU damage)?

Pyro1099 2010-07-24 04:26

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 762779)
Question: if I do as suggested here:

edit/multi-quote instead of multi-posting, please.

When I go back and edit (after I have paused and done other things), how will people who already read my post know that I have edited it?

I think they won't know. So I guess since my messages aren't worth anything, that's ok. :)

I don't think they can, check my comment reply to you on the other overclock thread, I just edited it adding the last 2 lines.

If you can't tell I edited it then you have your answer :)

geneven 2010-07-24 05:11

Re: Overclock using the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro1099 (Post 762868)
Thanks :), so nothing is restricted after the overclock, except for voiding warranty?

and last question:

If I use the "Enhanced Linux Kernel for power users" from the System catagory in the app manager is it completely reversible? Can I return the N900 to its stock state without any side effects (exempt CPU damage)?

Yes, after overclocking you can go completely back to not overclocking, with no restrictions except for being out of warranty, and no sideffects I've ever heard about.


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