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c:drive 2010-07-22 06:09
Re: Nokia has exciting news for N900 users
 
i install uninstall same here,this app didn't open,just blink then gone,and my thought was this cam app is really like it's name Fu""cam.

naabi 2010-07-22 06:19
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Just for information if someone hasn't noticed yet. This doesn't yet work with e.g. Titan kernel. Actually when you check the detail from app manager when installing, it tells you there's a conflict.

stickymick 2010-07-22 06:19
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I tried to install the drivers last night. Got no warnings prior to the install, until half way through when the phone flashed up the message that they couldn't be installed :confused:

Just out of curiosity, I installed the fCam app, and that did the same.
But the icon was there in "Multimedia". When I attempted to open the app it flicked up briefly then shut down again.

Any ideas guys? :confused:

c:drive 2010-07-22 06:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by naabi (Post 760281)
Just for information if someone hasn't noticed yet. This doesn't yet work with e.g. Titan kernel. Actually when you check the detail from app manager when installing, it tells you there's a conflict.
ummmmmmmmmmm maybe this is a reason!!!! but i didn't got any notice while installing?
soo i had to unstall my enhance power kernel?last time i did it brick my phone,

stickymick 2010-07-22 06:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c:drive (Post 760295)
ummmmmmmmmmm maybe this is a reason!!!! but i didn't got any notice while installing?
soo i had to unstall my enhance power kernel?last time i did it brick my phone,
Don't do any overclocking myself, yet. But you did return to stock settings before you uninstalled the kernel, I take it.

But TBH I think this thread needs splitting, because it's hard work sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Dariu5 2010-07-22 07:01
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With what software open dng files from Fcam? I tried with Gimp, but image size is only 640x480, is it real size?

Edit

After instaling http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-99558.html windows picture viewer recognizes format, shows 2592x1968 resolution, but image have to much of green.

stojko007 2010-07-22 07:04
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Hi
how does that fcam work....made a picture and cant look them. How can i look pictures made with fcam. They are in fcam folder but cant open them. Help me please.
Thank you

droll 2010-07-22 07:24
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maverick788us - the fcamera application.

for the rest, i had issues with the app initially. it would briefly startup then shutdown again. i installed the fcam drivers first and then the fcamera application itself and that solved the problem for me.

the dng format files are adobe digital negative format. you can manipulate them with apps on the pc. just do a google search. they are big though - in excess of 10mb. they can come in a pair with one file being a jpeg preview. this is as per the dng specifications.

stojko007 2010-07-22 07:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by droll (Post 760338)
maverick788us - the fcamera application.

for the rest, i had issues with the app initially. it would briefly startup then shutdown again. i installed the fcam drivers first and then the fcamera application itself and that solved the problem for me.

the dng format files are adobe digital negative format. you can manipulate them with apps on the pc. just do a google search. they are big though - in excess of 10mb. they can come in a pair with one file being a jpeg preview. this is as per the dng specifications.
Thank you....mean if i can however look dng files on n900?

Chrome 2010-07-22 07:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exo (Post 760269)
Anyone else getting 'operation failed' when opening the camera app? even after a full reboot (and battery pull)?
Install the original kernel (2.6.28omap1) and camera will work again.

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-07-22 07:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jd4200 (Post 759859)
What is sad is having people like you in this great community. Oh, and learn to spell.
At least, i am not a Maemo expert , so dont know any. But you shame on you , u act like you know everything but in fact u r useless..
you need to repair you mouth.

ETalvala 2010-07-22 08:03
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You can view the DNG files in FCamera itself (just swipe up on the viewfinder to get to the thumbnail viewer) - there's a zoom option there as well.

Or you can change it to save standard JPEG files in the extended settings screen (swipe down on the viewfinder to get there), and they'll be viewable in the normal photo viewer.

xuggs 2010-07-22 08:26
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ETalvala.. thanks for the great work on fcam for N900.

Do you know if there can be anything done about Titan's kernel? A lot of us here have that on and we frankly don't want to lose that but still want to experience and build upon fcam.

I know you mentioned that you guys just discovered about titans kernel this morning but is this something that you can update for fcam so there won't be a conflict?

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 08:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c:drive (Post 760295)
ummmmmmmmmmm maybe this is a reason!!!! but i didn't got any notice while installing?
soo i had to unstall my enhance power kernel?last time i did it brick my phone,
The developers weren't aware of the Titan kernel while developing the software.

ossipena 2010-07-22 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c:drive (Post 760295)
ummmmmmmmmmm maybe this is a reason!!!! but i didn't got any notice while installing?
soo i had to unstall my enhance power kernel?last time i did it brick my phone,
doesn't titans kernel prompt that it might break something when installed or in the future? it really should.....

e: you just can't install any app anywhere and expect that everything else works perfectly...

pthomas22 2010-07-22 08:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 760282)
I tried to install the drivers last night. Got no warnings prior to the install, until half way through when the phone flashed up the message that they couldn't be installed :confused:

Just out of curiosity, I installed the fCam app, and that did the same.
But the icon was there in "Multimedia". When I attempted to open the app it flicked up briefly then shut down again.

Any ideas guys? :confused:

I presume you rebooted after installation as the reboot loads the drivers

droll 2010-07-22 08:45
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you can't open the dng file directly on the n900. but as someone said earlier in the thread, if you drag the top of the fcamera window down, there is an option in there to save a jpg preview in the regular folder for pictures on the n900. you can then use the photos application to view the jpg.

however, do note that your original DNG file is still there. the jpg is just a "preview" of the DNG file.

pthomas22 2010-07-22 08:53
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I see lots of posters on the forums complaining about lack of applications etc and then when something like this comes along they moan that it's not what they want!
It must make developers want to give up. If you have ideas for an app then make a request and see what comes out of it. Don't just sit back and moan.
I'm not a developer and don't have a clue how to write an app for Fcam but anyone can see the huge potential for this. It is big news and the developers get a huge thanks from me for it.
I would love to see apps to get full control over the camera.
Control shutter speed
Control aperture
Time lapse photography
trigger camera remotely

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 09:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pthomas22 (Post 760444)
I see lots of posters on the forums complaining about lack of applications etc and then when something like this comes along they moan that it's not what they want!
More importantly, who sets tags on a thread? Because the current set of tags is childish.

ysss 2010-07-22 09:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdstrowes (Post 760454)
More importantly, who sets tags on a thread? Because the current set of tags is childish.
It's the same pitfall for 'democracy'. Uniting vision and objectives is part of the challenge. Some may feel they're better informed and know better where to lead the pack; but to get there they must also realize that everyone is on the same boat :)

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 09:21
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 760470)
It's the same pitfall for 'democracy'. Uniting vision and objectives is part of the challenge. Some may feel they're better informed and know better where to lead the pack; but to get there they must also realize that everyone is on the same boat :)
Sure, but my question still stands :)

eiffel 2010-07-22 09:48
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Originally Posted by sdstrowes (Post 760489)
Sure, but my question still stands :)
Who sets the tags? Anyone who clicks on the "Edit Tags" link.

abill_uk 2010-07-22 09:51
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Does it not tell you about if the thread is a good lead or not or just rubbish talk? got to have some fun sometimes on this boring community ha ha.

Love the Nokia is GAY bit hehehe.

pthomas22 2010-07-22 09:52
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Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 760516)
Who sets the tags? Anyone who clicks on the "Edit Tags" link.
I have no "Edit Tags" link

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 09:53
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Originally Posted by pthomas22 (Post 760522)
I have no "Edit Tags" link
Indeed, nor do I. Hence the question. Who has this privilege?

abill_uk 2010-07-22 09:55
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Just above the "quick reply" is a grey bar... one side says Tags and the other side of the bar says Edit Tags... look and you will see.

ossipena 2010-07-22 10:02
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limit of tag amount has been met.

are you blind or do you have broken theme or something?

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 10:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 760526)
Just above the "quick reply" is a grey bar... one side says Tags and the other side of the bar says Edit Tags... look and you will see.
Trust me, I've looked :)

http://sdstrowes.co.uk/img/tmo.png

"Edit tags" doesn't appear anywhere in the source for the page. Some people get fed the option presumably based on their accounts. So what is it? Age of account? Number of 'thanks'?

danramos 2010-07-22 10:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by droll (Post 760242)
i just downloaded it this morning and was fooling around a bit with it. coming from a nikon dslr, what fcamera does on A FREAKING PHONE IS BLOODY AWESOME. the level of control it offers is pretty amazing.

i have never seen this on any phone camera before.

the out of focus shots you can take make for great subject / portrait images where you want the subject to be in focus while the background is blur. sure you can do it with the default camera app but that is automatic and it doesn't always get it right. having manual control is what makes this app excellent!!

kudos to the team that developed this.
I've seen several like this... on a phone. :P I use Camera360 on my Droid. You're just pointing out that YOU haven't seen this on any phone camera before, but I've seen it--this N900 app isn't quite as good as the ones I've seen and used, but I do agree with the sentiment that this is a GREAT development for the N900. It's a little late to the game.. but still, a major step. It's far SUPERIOR than the other apps I've used/seen in that it's completely OPEN SOURCE, however. THAT counts for a LOT to me. Although I've seen better, it certainly has far greater potential and value to me for being open-source alone.

truslack 2010-07-22 10:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdstrowes (Post 760537)
Trust me, I've looked :)

http://sdstrowes.co.uk/img/tmo.png
Same, I've never had an "edit tags" link.

AlMehdi 2010-07-22 10:11
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This is great news! Hope you solve it so it can be runned with the Enhanced Kernel.

imperiallight 2010-07-22 10:16
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Good app it may be but what I see is someones homework being sold as nokia software development. Have they ever tried to solve a problem this forum actively wanted?

pthomas22 2010-07-22 10:20
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No "Edit tags" link on the bar
Must be based on number of posts I guess

sdstrowes 2010-07-22 10:21
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Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 760553)
Good app it may be but what I see is someones homework being sold as nokia software development.
This came out of research work to be published at SIGGRAPH. It's a collaboration between Stanford and Nokia Research Centre. They've released an API for advanced development, and an example application which uses this API, and all the source for all of this. Which part of this is "homework"?

Quote:
Have they ever tried to solve a problem this forum actively wanted?
Sure. There have been many threads about the poor quality of the N900's built-in camera app. This is a great opportunity for something better.

danramos 2010-07-22 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sdstrowes (Post 760565)
Sure. There have been many threads about the poor quality of the N900's built-in camera app. This is a great opportunity for something better.
Now if Nokia would REPLACE their ugly-as-mortal-sin proprietary crap camera app with this as part of the actual OS image, so you don't have to have your precious app installation space occupied by that worthless version, instead blessed with this much better open-source version... Nokia would garnish that TINY bit more respect and be able to claim they opened a tiny bit more of the OS to the community. (Mind you, as I've always kinda suspected.. they would be claiming openness credit on someone's else's efforts despite inconsiderately CLOSED-SOURCE coding their own applications and drivers from the start.)

Anyway, it would help that TINY bit for Nokia. I feel like Stanford gets most of the credit for this, considering how Nokia coded their own crap closed. Props to the Stanford guys! A little grudging props to Nokia--at least they FINALLY did the right thing.

imperiallight 2010-07-22 10:33
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it is a fundamental fix i guess. and good work too.

ysss 2010-07-22 10:39
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You need a minimum of 200 posts to edit tags, if I'm not mistaken.

markallan 2010-07-22 10:42
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is anyone else having problems with it stuttering and taking 2 shots instead of 1?? quality is brilliant.

abill_uk 2010-07-22 10:53
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This app is or should be the start of DECENT apps for the N900 so let's hope Nokia (thick as pigswill) learn by the fantastic work by these guys and start to get the "we WILL support the N900" in their dopey support dept going !!.

God knows we need this and many many more so come on get moving Nokia !!!.

c:drive 2010-07-22 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 760418)
doesn't titans kernel prompt that it might break something when installed or in the future? it really should.....

e: you just can't install any app anywhere and expect that everything else works perfectly...
i know the warning which prompt while having titans kernel thats why i am asking u !if u don't have any answer or gonna help then leave it,this forums for users and beta apps users for all including developer to root bugs and further improvement,seeing ur profile u even not a dev and predenting like ones,if we did not try extra,devels or other repo. then how could we have usefull apps for free,
Maybe,it is better u should hang more in OVI store then here.


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