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mido.fayad 2010-08-08 09:58
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
you can do it by changing lcd density from 160 to 200 or 240 but i prefer 240 because with it most of games and app working in full screen while with 200 some games crash and not being in full screen

to know how read this topic which describe it
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...141#post765141

leetut 2010-08-08 10:03
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
when booting droid on my n900, there is no flash10
keeps asking me to install it

and i cant exit the web browser, i have to turn phone off

would love the overclocking info too
tried for over an hour to get that IRC helproom chat link thingy to work
and something called a 'java plugin'
but gave up due to not knowing what im doing with that!

can the overclocking info not just be posted on a forum somewhere?

and how do i access/change the boot anim:
/system/media/bootanimation.zip

dj_steve 2010-08-08 10:06
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
lock switch is back, cam button should take you back to home screen :)

ill pm you the overclock info.

flash you have to install by hand

download a file manager from market (any will do) then go and enable unknown sources in settings apps then open the file manager and go to the /extras folder and tap the file to install :) reboot may be required after install

porselinaheart 2010-08-08 10:37
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
hi dj_steve, was wondering if you could pm the the OC info, wanna give it a test, :D

byte_76 2010-08-08 12:59
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Hi all devs.

Great work so far, the current public release of Nitdroid is very usable. Thank you for the many hours of work that all of you are putting into this project. It means a lot to many of us!

Can you please give us an update on the phone support? I think having the ability to make calls will probably mean that lots of members will actually move over to Nitdroid as their main OS regardless of the bugs. For me, I'm not concerned about 3G or using the cell modem for Internet access since I just use wifi when I need Internet access however the ability to make and receive calls and sms's is very important and missing that functionality prevents moving over to Nitdroid.

Again, thanks for all the effort, it is really appreciated from us non-developers.

tom047 2010-08-08 13:16
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by byte_76 (Post 779494)
Hi all devs.

Great work so far, the current public release of Nitdroid is very usable. Thank you for the many hours of work that all of you are putting into this project. It means a lot to many of us!

Can you please give us an update on the phone support? I think having the ability to make calls will probably mean that lots of members will actually move over to Nitdroid as their main OS regardless of the bugs. For me, I'm not concerned about 3G or using the cell modem for Internet access since I just use wifi when I need Internet access however the ability to make and receive calls and sms's is very important and missing that functionality prevents moving over to Nitdroid.

Again, thanks for all the effort, it is really appreciated from us non-developers.
I'd like to second the call for an update but with not so much importance on how close you are. I just want to understand if you've made much progress. I understand how ridiculously difficult what you're trying to achieve is and I know it cheapens the work to a degree if all anyone asks about is an ETA.

I'm also one who will likely migrate to NITDroid once it's completed but I'm in less of a hurry - I just want to do my bit to support the guys behind this, particularly dj_steve.

Also, just a query relating to the post I've quoted - if you crack 2G connection, is 3G/modem pretty much done too? Or is there a significant difference in getting both functioning regularly?

Thanks all, hope to hear back from you, and chucking all my support behind you!

DaSilva 2010-08-08 13:38
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
I am not sure why everyone wants to have phone support. If you want to use Android as your main OS then why did you buy a N900 in the first place?
Personally I don't want to get phone calls or messages on Nitdroid because I will loose those information in Maemo (the main OS!) and it makes it hard to follow a longer conversation.
Only 3G support for browsing would be nice but again: If you don't use Nitdroid as your main OS then you will probably use it at home where you normally have WiFi.
So better 2D GFX support, in game accelerometer and more compatibility features (too many apps/games are crashing currently: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=Addsoftware) are more important than phone support in my opinion.

elmonen 2010-08-08 13:39
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
could anyone point me to the direction of asphalt 5 so I can try how it works? :)

EDIT: Whoops! meant for this to go the the app & games combatibility thread..

Magik 2010-08-08 13:47
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
I am not sure why everyone wants to have phone support. If you want to use Android as your main OS then why did you buy a N900 in the first place?
One day I will use andorid, another maemo5. I like to have many options and phone is the main feature I use on my n900. I don't want to be 'deaf' to the world just because I'm on android :)

tom047 2010-08-08 14:01
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 779512)
I am not sure why everyone wants to have phone support. If you want to use Android as your main OS then why did you buy a N900 in the first place?
Personally I don't want to get phone calls or messages on Nitdroid because I will loose those information in Maemo (the main OS!) and it makes it hard to follow a longer conversation.
Only 3G support for browsing would be nice but again: If you don't use Nitdroid as your main OS then you will probably use it at home where you normally have WiFi.
So better 2D GFX support, in game accelerometer and more compatibility features (too many apps/games are crashing currently: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=Addsoftware) are more important than phone support in my opinion.
Although it's a bit of a digression - I bought an N900 because I thought it was an excellent bit of hardware. I love its capabilities, I love everything I can do on it, I love its features and its storage capacity. But from a software/utilities viewpoint, Android is much better supported. It would be nice to have the option to access all the applications that lots of phone users have, without having to give up the N900 hardware, which I truly do think is excellent. As someone above me pointed out, it would be good if this was possible without being dead to the world - hence the desire for working phone support. Also, I think the Android UI is a little snazzier personally, and more customisable through themes and the like. It's all down to personal choice but I'd like the option of more software and a cleaner UI, while retaining this hardware.

PS: While running NITDroid, does the phone lose its ability to act as a Linux device? Just curious...

dj_steve 2010-08-08 14:20
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
ok much as i hate posting mostly pointless updates..

phone/data/3g support is being examined, e-yes has partially ported over ofono and its apis and is working to try and get it working but its slow work and not at all useable yet(ie it crashes more than it works etc).

i have been loking at using maemos internal PnatD app that is used for things like bluetooth dun to try and do data only support but again no success as yet their.

also ive been working on getting wifi to calibrate properly and get rid of the annoying random mac address issue we have currently and it should stablise/possibly speed up the wifi also. thats id say about 80-90% completed im just trying to sort few bugs

their will also be a new multiboot and rootfs release once one of the above items is sorted (probably be the wifi one at this time)

i will not give an ETA as i always disagree with trying to offer timescales that may not be kept due to the nature of the work, espically on the phone module since we are in totalyl unprecedented ground here by being the only alternate os not being developed by users close to nokia to get any form of phone support going

cheers.


and just as a bit of good news to users we have had enough users test out the overclock now i think to release the instructions to public to try.

details below: the standard disclaimers apply to this, i dont take responsiblity for any damage you do to your n900 by trying this

mount nitdroid in maemo

all this in root xterm
Code:
mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /and
download http://downloads.nitdroid.com/power.conf into /and/system/etc
Code:
cd /and/system/etc
wget http://downloads.nitdroid.com/power.conf
edit /and/init.nokia.rc and remove the cpu scaling lines :
remove the entire #power management section
Code:
cd /and
leafpad init.nokia.rc
remove all the lines below

Code:
# Power Management
write /sys/power/sleep_while_idle 1
write /sys/power/enable_off_mode 1
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor ondemand
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq 250000
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold 86
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_rate 46875
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq 250000
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq 600000
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_governor ondemand

DaSilva 2010-08-08 14:26
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Thanks for that update.
If I only want to overclock Nitdroid to 850 Mhz is it enough to change

scaling_max_freq 1000000

to

scaling_max_freq 850000

or do I have change something else (like avoid_frequencies)?

dj_steve 2010-08-08 14:27
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
read through power.conf it is pretty well commented what is needed :)

DaSilva 2010-08-08 14:32
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Yeah, I have done that already.
I am only a little bit confused about the avoid_frequencies because scaling_max_freq is set to 1000000 (1Ghz) but at the same time avoid_frequencies contains 1000000 so i am not sure what that means (go up to 1Ghz but avoid exactly 1Ghz?).
I am also not completely sure what sampling_rate does. It has the same value as scaling_max_freq but I think it makes no sense to have two variables with the same effect and so I don't if it is enough to change scaling_max_freq to 850000 or if I have to change sampling_rate to 850000 as well.
Thanks in advance

Dousan 2010-08-08 14:34
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 779549)
Thanks for that update.
If I only want to overclock Nitdroid to 850 Mhz is it enough to change

scaling_max_freq 1000000

to

scaling_max_freq 850000

or do I have change something else (like avoid_frequencies)?
I did also change both use: and avoid: to match my needs with oc'ing. I'm not sure it will work without changing that to ;)

leetut 2010-08-08 14:44
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
lockswitch wasnt exiting browser, or going back

and cam key brought up a small box with icons in it, but there was no home screen option in there

so i had to turn the phone off, maybe it was just a dodgy boot up if its only happened to me:confused:

dj_steve 2010-08-08 14:45
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
leetut, you could of taped any of the boxes to go to home, it shows up list of homescreens

Dousan 2010-08-08 14:53
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetut (Post 779566)
lockswitch wasnt exiting browser, or going back

and cam key brought up a small box with icons in it, but there was no home screen option in there

so i had to turn the phone off, maybe it was just a dodgy boot up if its only happened to me:confused:
Lockswitch goes one screen back every time it's pushed, half tap on camkey opens the 5 desktops then choose one to go home, full press and hold on camkey will open multitask window then choose the app you need that is open ;)

elmonen 2010-08-08 17:42
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
hmm.. I don't really undestand what I need to change in order to.. let's say oc to 700mhz...

leetut 2010-08-08 18:09
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
i pressed lockswitch over and over again for a few minutes and it was doing nothing, it worked everywhere else but stopped working when using the browser, just sharing the info bout it, but ive only booted nitdroid a few times and it was the first time id tried the browser, so if you guys say it should work then it'll probs not be an issue

also i couldnt set up bluetooth, the info in the wiki says to get BTmac addr and enter it to the third line of a file, i used leafpad to open the file 'via xterm'
but it was a blank file, there was no third line to edit?
defo copied the commands correctly

horrorschow 2010-08-08 18:53
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
will the overclock guide overclock maemo too or only nitdroid

mido.fayad 2010-08-08 19:07
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
no this is for nitdroid only

horrorschow 2010-08-08 19:28
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
jep i have asked on irc, but thx to you too

ma-3x 2010-08-08 20:11
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Hi Steve, when will you release new version?

Dousan 2010-08-08 20:24
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmonen (Post 779672)
hmm.. I don't really undestand what I need to change in order to.. let's say oc to 700mhz...
You need to edit these lines in your power.conf like this if you want it be at max 700:

# Automatic voltage scaling
scaling_governor ondemand
scaling_max_freq 700000
scaling_min_freq 125000

# Frequencies
# ALL: 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 750000 700000 600000 550000 500000 250000 125000
# USE: 700,500,250,125
#avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 600000 550000
# USE: 700,550,250,125
#avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 750000 600000 500000
# USE: 700, 500, 250, 125
avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 9000000 850000 805000 750000 600000 550000

Use any txt editor. I think you need to be root, i'm not sure. If you want more options in your overclocking just add them in USE: and remove them from avoid_frequencies

Hope this helps :)

Ps: I would make a backup just incase before doing any editing ;)

leetut 2010-08-08 23:07
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
i couldnt boot nitdroid anymore,
was browsing the droid folders looking for the bootanimation.zip
and the 'oi file manager' screen went black
none of the buttons worked
so i popped the battery out
now when i try to boot nitdroid i get an infinite scrolling error something like: sbin/ (cant remember this bit) image text not found or something along those lines, i def didnt delete anything so a bit confused whats happened

edit: it booted ok after a 3 failed attempts:confused:

also flash10 is working great on vimeo:D

edit2: i cant copy anything to /system/media/
using any of the droid file managers
its like i dont have permission?
is there something i can do about that?

dj_steve 2010-08-09 00:05
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
leetut its not rooted you need copy files in maemo to the location. using xterm or a file manager

sak500 2010-08-09 03:43
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 773900)
It's probably the same issue as others has experienced. Just re-extract to mmcblk1p2.

If you're using the newest (the-flying-world) just do this:
mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /and
cd /and
rm -rf *
tar xvf /home/user/MyDocs/NITDroid-N900-the-flying-world.tar

If you're using 0.0.5-4-final just do step 6. again, from the first post. Leave out the mkdir part wich is already there ;)
Cheers mate. This was the final step in getting NITDroid to work on my N900. I had tried it several times and it use to get stuck at the blinking light on the top left corner. So booting back in the maemo and running the above commands made it work like charm. I feel the phone gets hot when using in Droid mode though and also home screen doesnt work when i press the power button only "reboot or Switch off or airplane mode option"..

Dousan 2010-08-09 06:45
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sak500 (Post 779992)
Cheers mate. This was the final step in getting NITDroid to work on my N900. I had tried it several times and it use to get stuck at the blinking light on the top left corner. So booting back in the maemo and running the above commands made it work like charm. I feel the phone gets hot when using in Droid mode though and also home screen doesnt work when i press the power button only "reboot or Switch off or airplane mode option"..
Power button is lock screen or shutdown options. Power button pressed locks screen - long press shutdown menu. Camkey is what you're looking for. Half pressed brings up the five homescreens - fully long pressed brings up the multitask window ;)

Always glad to help :)

moepda 2010-08-09 08:28
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 779794)
You need to edit these lines in your power.conf like this if you want it be at max 700:

# Automatic voltage scaling
scaling_governor ondemand
scaling_max_freq 700000
scaling_min_freq 125000

# Frequencies
# ALL: 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 750000 700000 600000 550000 500000 250000 125000
# USE: 700,500,250,125
#avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 600000 550000
# USE: 700,550,250,125
#avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 750000 600000 500000
# USE: 700, 500, 250, 125
avoid_frequencies 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 9000000 850000 805000 750000 600000 550000

Use any txt editor. I think you need to be root, i'm not sure. If you want more options in your overclocking just add them in USE: and remove them from avoid_frequencies

Hope this helps :)

Ps: I would make a backup just incase before doing any editing ;)
may i ask why so many lines of use and avoid frequencies ? on maemo only 1 line of each . not quite sure which line(s) to add frequencies to ? was to add 1150mhz but add on all use or only 1 line ?

cheers , moepda

leetut 2010-08-09 08:51
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_steve (Post 779910)
leetut its not rooted you need copy files in maemo to the location. using xterm or a file manager
i cant find /and/system/media/ using maemo file mgr or winscp
i can only see system/media/ using droid file manager
using winscp i can see a folder called /and but its empty

does anyone know how i can get access to and/system/media/bootanimation.zip please
or system/media
without using xterm?

dj_steve 2010-08-09 09:12
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
mount the partition in maemo : mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /and then winscp will see it

mido.fayad 2010-08-09 09:12
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
the path you want is on memory card so when you use winscp you can't see it
you can see it either by one of following :-
by mounting memory card on maemo by terminal and use terminal to change what you want

or

by using linux so you can see all system files of nitdroid and change what you want . you may yse any virtual machine to use linux or by live cd

dj_steve 2010-08-09 09:34
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mido.fayad (Post 780165)
the path you want is on memory card so when you use winscp you can't see it
you can see it either by one of following :-
by mounting memory card on maemo by terminal and use terminal to change what you want

or

by using linux so you can see all system files of nitdroid and change what you want . you may yse any virtual machine to use linux or by live cd
you can just mount the memory card in root xtrem then winscp will see it happily

porselinaheart 2010-08-09 09:43
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
yep or just use mc in xterm, my fav, :D

Dousan 2010-08-09 10:05
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by moepda (Post 780130)
may i ask why so many lines of use and avoid frequencies ? on maemo only 1 line of each . not quite sure which line(s) to add frequencies to ? was to add 1150mhz but add on all use or only 1 line ?

cheers , moepda
Actually i don't know thats why i chose to edit all three of them, maybe it's like Titans ulv, lv and xlv or something like that?
Maybe steve or jay-c can give some onfo on the subject? ;)

GEONXT 2010-08-09 11:14
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Can someone tell me where to get these to packages from thanks.

Maemo Packages Required for installation:
Bzip2
wget

clovis86 2010-08-09 11:16
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
apt-get install bzip2
apt-get install wget
in root under terminal

EDIT : this is not a help thread ...

jakiman 2010-08-09 11:30
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
GUIDE UPDATE
- Added Nitdroid overclocking section to my guide! (thanks to dj_steve and jay-c)

Let me know if I made any typos. (I did double check but still...)
Also, I will add more notes later about power.conf when I can.

aligatro 2010-08-09 11:57
Re: [Android] NITDroid V2 & Multiboot Development And Announcement Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 780264)
GUIDE UPDATE
- Added Nitdroid overclocking section to my guide! (thanks to dj_steve and jay-c)

Let me know if I made any typos. (I did double check but still...)
Also, I will add more notes later about power.conf when I can.
Why not post it into NITdroid's wiki instead ?


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