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oddly enough Nokias market share of smartphone actually increased last quarter, while it's stock plummeted. It's mostly due to asia and emerging markets however, Market share in North America is almost non-existent, and in europe it's on a sharp decline.

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Poor support? I don't call 3 updates in under a year poor support. Why you do is beyond me.

That said, I'm not a total brand loyalist. I've used other brands before. I choose my devices based on my needs, and investigate them before I choose. Nokia has been the winner at least 2 times in the 18 years I've been buying/using cell phones. (Motorola 3, Erickson 1, Other 1/2 :) ) If, in a few years when I start looking at new phones, Nokia is still on top of the game, and has a device to meet my needs, I'm there. If not, I'm somewhere else.

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Because other companies have set the bar much higher with feature complete operating systems, and major OS updates, and not just a few minor bugfixes and addition of one or two features that should have been there in the first place?

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Well lets see.. i dont want an android phone.. the designs suck, and android is hugely overrated. Iphone is out of the question, Sony ericsson is a joke... LG? Never ever in my wildest dreams... the same with samsung. Anything else is not worth the meantioning....

Hmm.. that leaves me with Nokia.. so yeah, ill buy a nokia again... Nokia was nr 1 when 3210 came out, and was nr 1 when N95 came out.. And with the N900 they where still nr. 1... i have no doubt when Nokia comes with the next generation Phone... they will still be nr. 1... Say what you want, no one can show me a phone that has more features (with a little hacking) then the N900, all who dosent see that has bought a phone that is waaay to powerfull for you. And dont bring me that **** with "not enough games!"... only an idiot buys a phone for its games... you buy an N900 to hack.. end of discussion. :)

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If we get updates & meego then yes, if not I'm giving my money somewhere else next time.

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I buy around 2-3 phones a year and already got Galaxy s next to my N900 and least i have no problems with buying another Nokia.

Apple is great with the support, but other than Apple i think some people here actually don't have much to compare to N900 when it comes to support.
MeeGo phone with all the OVI services and the 6 months cycle of new MeeGo versions is something i'm waiting for.

All that said it's still no matter what people here talk (as long you have not gotten very bad service from Nokia) it's still all about the HW and UI. So lets see when that MeeGo phone gets announced if i'm interested of buying Nokia.

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If it is as open as the N900 and networks are forbidden to put their outdated WAP services and restrictions on it again, then yes my next phone will be a Nokia.
But it all depends on the O/S. I think Nokia made a mistake with embedding Flash and MicroB into the O/S. These components should have been treated like plugins that could be updated/patched as and when needed.
I think that's going to be one of the deciding factors for me if there's more than one O/S available.

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don't simple count updates. count working updates and fixed bugs.
1.2 have broken basic functiomality. keyboard layout switching simply stop working.
mail still suck.
phone layout get broken.
it's not support.

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And then they release Angryman onto the OVI store...

a n900 exclusive to bring out the best in your €600 device and make up for the lack of OVI apps over the past 7 months

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There is a subtle but important difference between how much it cost, and how much it worth. For N900, in the last months, is costing less but worthing more.

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True, the community is adding value to the device over time. But it is still important to hold a candle to Nokia's criminality rather than let the Nokia goons (someone hired to rough someone up) try to convince new users that everything is their fault and Nokia's service is fine. Many of these goons held the same line even when the n900 was a mess.

The stinker is that Nokia's level of support hasn't changed and in fact they have now classed the device as obsolete.

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hmmmmm
also having a hard time finding viable alternatives for my use cases. still think i will go with the N8 as I love the idea to have a camera which takes quality pictures with me all the time. would love if nokia integrates a native sip client but doubt it

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Nokia is probably never gonna see my money again

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With a comment like that credibility goes off a cliff.

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@OP so if nokia release meego for N900 you would buy next device?

oxy*****

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Likewise, it is hard to completely trust the views of people getting free n900's and the like objectively.

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Why not. If it is as good as the n900. Though it would be nice if it had a 4" screen and a bigger rootfs. It would need to run Maemo or a similar debian based OS.

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If you're referring to me at all, I have some blog articles you can read. Link below.

My objectivity is not in question, free device or otherwise.

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Considering that they have just released N900 in India and no publicity at all in India, No TV advertisement, No newspaper ad's....and they are dropping maemo..... God knows what they will do to the next mobile I buy...

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The idea with the n900 was to leave it open for the community to hack/develop. And that is also what have happened.. Though Nokia have helped too they could throw in some more candies for us to use. Like open up some closed sourced drivers.

The service from Nokia is as good as anyone elses. Some people try to say different.. but that is the truth.

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No, I love nokia and meego looks awesome but I will wait for the device to come out. After dealing with the n900 release, I will wait.

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Here's where objectivity kicks in for sure: even as a former employee I can't defend Nokia's service. It may be as good as some, but it's not even close to best. Their forward logistics are awesome. Reverse logistics, especially for end users, fail miserably.

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uve mentioend fail reverse logistics before... do you mind explaining what the heck that means? :P

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Google says this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_logistics

But in a broader sense, return/repair operations can also be included.

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No. (PERIOD)

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sure will.

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The only valid alternative to Nokia is iphone.
But in Europe Apple sells iphone at exaggerate and unrealistic prices. For example in my country the iphone 4 32 GB's price is € 779 that is equivalent to $ 779 x 1,3 = $ 1012.
I hope that next Meego devices will be cheaper.

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again meego is not a full new os its still linux at the end. They drop hildon_desktop yes, but the core os is the same as today. also they did abandon hildon long before meego project started this was because they decided to use QT instead and that is a good decision in the long run, ofcourse gtk developers dislike this, but for the enduser and Nokia its right direction.

Why cant people understand this? when it has been discussed over andd over again.

and also who has said N900 will not be supported? its true we dont get meego core but alot of the QT apps in meego and symbian will probadly be backported both by nokia and the community.

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I hasn't happened. Community can't fix closed source applications.
N900 is closed, don't be so naive.

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Well I need new secondary backup/binge drinking/etc -phone as the old is getting old indeed. S30/S40 still totally rule in the <100€ price point, so there's one definite Nokia purchase.

As far as my next smartphone is concerned, my answer would be maybe. I had kind of decided to not go anywhere near Symbian until S^4, but I sort of like what I've seen on previews and will at least give S^3 decent amount of in shop test time. For next Meego/Harmattan-device I would really need a solid promise from Nokia that the science project and "step x out of y" stuff is over, and Meego/Harmattan will receive same level of support as their other platforms.

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If i dont get Flash 10 or Meego. I will never buy another Nokia device. Very poor software support. Im tired of this crap. Nokia will see the light soon but it will be too late.

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Buying a new phone depends on my needs which is found in specification of the phone not in the phone brand, it is the difference between fanboys and non-fanboys.

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If I were looking for a GNU/Linux pocketable with cell phone capabilities, is there anything out there but a Nokia?

If the answer is no, then I'd probably buy a Nokia.

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yes! I hope my next phone is N900+ (N9???)
...or Symbian^4

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the N900 proves that Nokia has the vision to make a device with great potential. Maybe the successor with be the real deal. I can say that I wont be preorder it. Ive done that with the N97 and N900 and ended up buying it in the flagship store before the preorder shipped. But im interested for sure. Ill never go the iphone way again(i had a 1st gen iphone) or windows(i had an htc fuze)....so who knows?

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... Yes ...

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Maybe
On the plus side, the N900 is probably the best bit of hardware I have owned for a phone
On the minus side, the waiting around for updates such as flash and turn by turn navigation.

Having said that - it will be a while before Im ready to switch phones, as the N900 does pretty much what i want it to do apart from the two things listed above..

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Yet another "I-have-Nokia" thread... Oh my... Can't really blame the guys who say: "Get an iPhone and fcuk off..."

Is there a "Whiners Sign Up Here!" banner I have missed somewhere?

AFAIK the N900 was supposed to be a Linux-based always-on geek tablet/phone/device... And guess what... IT IS... ;)

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That's like saying Toyota has no support because BMW has set the bar so much higher. BMW setting a high bar has no impact on how well Toyota supports it's products. Saying support other places is better is fine, it's objective and people can read such a statement as opinion. Saying there is no support is something different, it's a statement of fact (or non-fact in this case). The OP is saying there's no support, which having 3 releases in under a year would seem to debunk.

You thought he had credibility? When was that? ;) Have you read his signature?

On topic:

Overall, I've been pretty happy with where the N900 is and how open it's been. It could have been more open, but it could have also been much worse. (See Openmoko / FreeRunner) This phone does nothing to make me adhere to brand loyalty, nor shy away from Nokia in the future.

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My last phone was a Nokia N95 & now i have an N900, without a shadow of a doubt i would buy another Nokia.

Not because i am a fanboy but because i do my research before i buy any new device and dont have any false expectations or hope!

The N95 surpassed my expectations & is the only phone i have EVER owned that has survived the duration of an 18mth contract! I even sold it recently and got £85!

Similarly the N900 has surpassed my expectations in terms of software, flexibility & build quality.

Do your research, start out with realistic expectations and accurate information. If it then doesnt meet those expectations sell it and get something else.

Quit *****ing!